Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Quoting Dragan FOSS (dragan.f...@gmx.com): > All in all, all of the above guidelines can be defined in one line: > > "Don't f*ck with admins, we have root privileges.." :D Well, it's true. ;-> But at the same time, anyone who's read the Evil Overlord List knows you don't want to be hassled by

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 02:15:30 +0200 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 07/14/2017 01:38 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > > I really do strongly recommend all of the above guidelines. > > All in all, all of the above guidelines can be defined in one line: > > "Don't f*ck with admins, we have

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 170713-16:38-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Continuing my thoughts about listadmin best practices. We've covered: > > o Listadmin sanctions should be carefully minimal. (Often as not, the >misbehaving person is seeking public drama and wants nothing quite >a much as to be treated harshly,

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 07/14/2017 01:38 AM, Rick Moen wrote: I really do strongly recommend all of the above guidelines. All in all, all of the above guidelines can be defined in one line: "Don't f*ck with admins, we have root privileges.." :D ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Continuing my thoughts about listadmin best practices. We've covered: o Listadmin sanctions should be carefully minimal. (Often as not, the misbehaving person is seeking public drama and wants nothing quite a much as to be treated harshly, towards a goal of claiming martyrdom at the

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

I wrote: > 5. Web forums have poor presence in Web search prominence and archives > like Wayback Machine / Internet Archive. (In fairness and in contrast, > crowdsourced knowledgebase sites like StackExchange are uncommonly good > in those areas.) Particular relevance of this is that, along

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 170713-18:09+0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never asked to > > be > > back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). > > By the way: heared some rumors that some

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 07/13/2017 12:09 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >> So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never >> asked to be >> back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). > > By the way: heared some rumors that some

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never asked to be back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). By the way: heared some rumors that some people are banned from this list, too. --mtx

Re: [DNG] kernel drivers [WAS: How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii]

On 12.07.2017 15:23, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 11/07/2017 à 21:22, Jamey Fletcher a écrit : That sounds suspiciously like you're working on the LHC! Or perhaps the VLA... Particle Physics, although not LHC :-) Neutrino Physics. Ah, did you folks find a way for catching large quantities of

Re: [DNG] kernel drivers [WAS: How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii]

On 11.07.2017 19:07, Didier Kryn wrote: The system isn't a server open to the public. It's a kind of industrial process (though it's for fundamental research). Only a limited number of users have an account on the hosts and only members of the vme group are given permission to access the

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 170712-21:59-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > A mailing list is like vendors shipping to your house. > > > > Forums are like calling 15 stores to see whether they have any orders > > for you yet. > > I may have to FAQ this on my Web site, because

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

On 11.07.2017 23:33, Rowland Penny wrote: Yes, there is 'with-systemd' and 'without-systemd', not that either are really needed, the systemd parts will only be built if the systemd development libs are installed. It should be an explicit op-in (in general, I really dislike any autodetect

Re: [DNG] PulseAudio

On 11.07.2017 18:03, Adam Borowski wrote: Because so many upstreams of valuable software not only migrate to it but also make it mandatory. Do you have an example, that currently hits us - then I'll have a look at it. It's all of lennartware, not just systemD. Well, the dbus pest indeed

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

On 11.07.2017 23:23, Adam Borowski wrote: Uhm, but what's the point in _this_? Samba does the right thing: builds systemdD support if and only if its configure script detected the headers (which can usually also be forced by --enable-foo or --disable-foo). #1: just a little hack while

Re: [DNG] 404.

Hello again, On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] ... $ apt-cache policy openvpn openvpn: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.3.4-5+deb8u2 Version table: 2.4.0-6+deb9u1~bpo8+1 0 100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports/main ... 2.3.4-5+deb8u2 0 500