Re: [DNG] noatime by default

Quoting John Franklin (frank...@tux.org): > Not significantly. If this is a serious concern, we should consider > disabling swap, hibernate, journaling, and syslog by default, too. My understanding is that Linux on SSD still strongly suggests a number of measures that are unlikely to be applied

[DNG] No more GOSFUI

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 09:14:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > which is one of the most configurable WMDEs around (I have a temporary > moritorium on the word GOSFUI). Ah! How obvious! A Window Managing Development Environment! -- hendrik ___ Dng

[DNG] ctwm

Hi all, Dave Turner mentioned ctwm in the "devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there? UPDATE" thread, and because I've failed at every attempt to use twm, I tried ctwm. The package manager installs it like a breeze, but in the tradition of Debian packages, it doesn't work out of the

Re: [DNG] devuan ascii - how much of systemd is still in there? UPDATE

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 06:51:24 +0100 Dave Turner wrote: > I have a working devuan ascii with no systemd no dbus no udev and no > pulseaudio on my old iMac. (no X11 either, but we'll come to that) Very nice! > > I installed eudev Did you install eudev

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:16:07 +1000 Erik Christiansen wrote: [snip] > > That's good news. If LXQt were merely LXDE with a different grahics > base, that'd be great. We'll see what the Razor-qt has brought with > it. I tried LXQt for awhile. It's good enough, IMHO. I'll

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

Can confirm. Killed a Packard Bell sometime around 1990 hot plugging the keyboard. Luckily they warrantied it. On August 27, 2017 1:43:41 PM CDT, Rick Moen wrote: ::Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): :: ::[PS/2 6-pin mini-DIN vs. old 5-pin DIN] :: ::> AFAIK

[DNG] Repo mirrors

The devuan.org site says "Mirroring Devuan packages is being documented…" How far along is the documentation? If we're close to a beta, could someone contact me off-list? jf -- John Franklin frank...@tux.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] What does Linus do?

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:05:56AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > This idea does has some merit, but it cannot always prevent the necessity > to reconfigure a system's networking due to a hardware change and to a > sysadmin's specific needs; sometimes a cars with NIC 0b:45:81:f4:3e:01 is to

Re: [DNG] noatime by default

Doesn't this affect the expected lifetime for an SSD? Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device Original message From: John Franklin Date: 8/27/17 1:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Alessandro Selli , dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG]

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

The PC/XT used a clock/data protocol directly into an interrupt driven shift register which could handle 300 Kb+. The AT is microcoded and uses pseudo-RS-232 format  but with the bit windows timing relaxed to allow for for microcoding. The keyboard is dominate but the  buss direction can be

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

Nick: ... > I can admit that: a friend of mine cannot part of his original IBM AT > keyboard. So it has a converter from big DIN to PS2 to usb to connect it > to his PC without PS2 ports. Yes, there are still a few out there having thoose +10year old stuff. Hälsningar, /Karl Hammar

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

info at smallinnovations dot nl [2017-08-27 22:25]: > I can admit that: a friend of mine cannot part of his original IBM AT > keyboard. So it has a converter from big DIN to PS2 to usb to connect it > to his PC without PS2 ports. I can understand that, they have a great "feel". However, they

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

On 27-08-17 21:04, k...@aspodata.se wrote: PC/AT and PS/2 have the same protocol and electrical spec. except they have different connectors. The protocol is bidirectional. PC/XT has the same pinout and connector as PC/AT but not the same protocol and they won't work together. The protocol is

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > PC/AT and PS/2 have the same protocol and electrical spec. except they > have different connectors. The protocol is bidirectional. > > PC/XT has the same pinout and connector as PC/AT but not the > same protocol and they won't work together. > The

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

Alessandro: > On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 at 18:03:08 +0100 > Simon Hobson wrote: > [...] > > AFAIK the underlying protocol for the keyboard is the same (or near enough > > for simple conversion) between the two connector formats to allow for easy > > conversion between plugs. >

Re: [DNG] noatime by default

On Sat, 2017-08-26 at 16:14 +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 at 01:03:10 +0200 > Adam Borowski wrote: > > > Hi! > > I'd like to recommend another improvement: let's make the installer > > default > > to noatime for fstab it creates. > > > I agree. I

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): [PS/2 6-pin mini-DIN vs. old 5-pin DIN] > AFAIK the underlying protocol for the keyboard is the same (or near > enough for simple conversion) between the two connector formats to > allow for easy conversion between plugs. It absolutely is, and

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 at 18:03:08 +0100 Simon Hobson wrote: [...] > AFAIK the underlying protocol for the keyboard is the same (or near enough > for simple conversion) between the two connector formats to allow for easy > conversion between plugs. They are, adaptors are

Re: [DNG] serial and ps2 ports.

Hendrik Boom wrote: >> That's PS/2, not RS232. > > True, true. And there seem to be two different sizes of those > round plugs in use. At least, I've seen adapters to connect between > the two sizes. I think you may be thinking of the original PC keyboard connector

Re: [DNG] What does Linus do?

Adam Borowski wrote: > It would mean changes to every single program that deals with network > interfaces. With renaming, you apply this in a single place. This. If an interface name changes, I don't want to have to find and change every occurrence - network config,

Re: [DNG] Naming of network interfaces

El 27/08/17 a les 11:08, Martin Steigerwald ha escrit: > Narcis Garcia - 27.08.17, 09:59: >> El 26/08/17 a les 19:57, Didier Kryn ha escrit: >>> Le 26/08/2017 à 19:02, Alessandro Selli a écrit : >>> With my proposed solution, the admin has the choice to refer to nics >>> >>> by their interface

[DNG] Naming of network interfaces (was: Re: What does Linus do?)

Narcis Garcia - 27.08.17, 09:59: > El 26/08/17 a les 19:57, Didier Kryn ha escrit: > > Le 26/08/2017 à 19:02, Alessandro Selli a écrit : > > With my proposed solution, the admin has the choice to refer to nics > > > > by their interface name, as given by the kernel, which is fine when > >

Re: [DNG] What does Linus do?

El 26/08/17 a les 19:57, Didier Kryn ha escrit: > Le 26/08/2017 à 19:02, Alessandro Selli a écrit : > With my proposed solution, the admin has the choice to refer to nics > by their interface name, as given by the kernel, which is fine when > there is only one, or by their MAC address, if