[DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:38:27 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:18:12PM -0400, zap wrote: > > I only wish runit-init was still on the debian repo. or in the > > devuan repo at least... > > It was kicked out from stretch because something bad happened

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread zap
On 10/26/2017 05:38 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:18:12PM -0400, zap wrote: >> I only wish runit-init was still on the debian repo. or in the devuan >> repo at least... > It was kicked out from stretch because something bad happened to its > maintainer (he still hasn't

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Steve, > > I am the maintainer of Redis in Debian. All I have done is removed > > some ill-conceived hooks that were not used by anyone. I have not > > dropped sysvinit support and nor do I have any intention to do so. I > > only ask politely that you do stop to refering to my work as > >

Re: [DNG] Chris Lamb = Good Maintainer (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-26 Thread Chris Lamb
Patrick, > I opened a pull request with Chris Lamb to discuss reverting his changes > to the sysvinit scripts in redis-server and redis-sentinel. ^^^ I'm not sure how many times I can repeat myself on this point but this was not a sysvinit-specific change. As you can

[DNG] Fwd: Auto-Re: gpg 2.2.x devuan jessie no TOFU TLS

2017-10-26 Thread Fulano Diego Perez
Forwarded Message Subject: Auto-Re: gpg 2.2.x devuan jessie no TOFU TLS Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:40:38 +0800 From: xuchunx...@zjut.edu.cn To: fulanope...@cryptolab.net 邮件已收到，谢谢！ 徐春晓 ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] OT: Patching De*an based systems at scale

2017-10-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:12:08AM -0500, dev wrote: > Hi All, > I'd like to have a discussion about how to scale patch management on > De*an based systems. > Is there a better way to get information about patch fixes other than > digging up the Changelogs from a web browser? You're not insane

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:18:12PM -0400, zap wrote: > I only wish runit-init was still on the debian repo. or in the devuan > repo at least... It was kicked out from stretch because something bad happened to its maintainer (he still hasn't recovered and then he'll probably have more important

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-26 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 04:47:57PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > - replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in > your /etc/apt/sources.list > - # apt-get update > - # apt-get install devuan-keyring I just updated an ascii system that had been shut down for

Re: [DNG] ..proper use of /merged and /devuan, was: Trouble with apt-get upgrade over TOR

2017-10-26 Thread Fungal-net
Ok, this is the message by fsmithred I was referring to on my previous note. > From: fsmith...@gmail.com > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > > My understanding is that for anything found under /merged on the server, > you should use /merged in your sources, and anything found ONLY under > /devuan needs to

Re: [DNG] many many 404 when upgrading/installing packages

2017-10-26 Thread Fungal-net
From: fulanope...@cryptolab.net > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > > KatolaZ: >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 01:15:08PM +, Fulano Diego Perez wrote: >>> >>> >>> KatolaZ: # apt-get update before trying to install/upgrade packages? One reason why you might have a 404 is that the cache

Re: [DNG] Chris Lamb = Good Maintainer (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-26 Thread Patrick Meade
On 10/26/2017 09:36 AM, John Hughes wrote: Frankly it seems that some people have been rather fast to assume bad faith and very few people who commented either knew what they were talking about or made the slightest effort to actually understand what Chris Lamb had done. I opened a pull

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread zap
On 10/24/2017 10:50 AM, Chris Lamb wrote: > Hi -dng, > >> […] > I am the maintainer of Redis in Debian. All I have done is removed some > ill-conceived hooks that were not used by anyone. I have not dropped > sysvinit support and nor do I have any intention to do so. I only ask > politely that

Re: [DNG] Converting srpms to debs

2017-10-26 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 26-10-17 20:09, John Crisp wrote: On 26 October 2017 19:45:29 CEST, Vincent Bentley wrote: Have you tried alien? apt-cache show alien No, but I'm not sure that it is a full on solution. it gets you out of a hole for odd packages as far as I remember?

[DNG] Converting srpms to debs

2017-10-26 Thread Edward Bartolo
If they are Perl scripts you can simple extract the contents, that is, the actual scripts and place them in a dedicated directory. However, you have to consider if your scripts call other scripts which should be in a defined path. That is what I would do avoiding having to deal with .deb

Re: [DNG] Converting srpms to debs

2017-10-26 Thread John Crisp
On 26 October 2017 19:45:29 CEST, Vincent Bentley wrote: >Have you tried alien? > >apt-cache show alien > > No, but I'm not sure that it is a full on solution. it gets you out of a hole for odd packages as far as I remember? And you don't end up with a source

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > But Chris, please understand, Debian *has* done plenty of sabotage and > vandalism in the past, especially but not exclusively with the ramming > of systemd down everyone's throat, with no committment to continue to > support alternative inits and

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:50:26 +0100 Chris Lamb wrote: > Hi -dng, > > > […] > > I am the maintainer of Redis in Debian. All I have done is removed > some ill-conceived hooks that were not used by anyone. I have not > dropped sysvinit support and nor do I have any intention to

Re: [DNG] Converting srpms to debs

2017-10-26 Thread Vincent Bentley
Have you tried alien? apt-cache show alien On 26/10/17 18:22, John Crisp wrote: > I have a little idea I have been tossing around in brain for ages but I'm > stuck. > > I'm quite used to building rpms but no experience with debs. > > I have some stuff I'd like to experiment with on Devuan

[DNG] Converting srpms to debs

2017-10-26 Thread John Crisp
I have a little idea I have been tossing around in brain for ages but I'm stuck. I'm quite used to building rpms but no experience with debs. I have some stuff I'd like to experiment with on Devuan but need to convert the srpms to deb format. Most of it is not actually compiled binaries

[DNG] OT: Patching De*an based systems at scale

2017-10-26 Thread dev
Hi All, I'd like to have a discussion about how to scale patch management on De*an based systems. Right now, my methodology is looping over my servers in a script and saving the output from 'apt list --upgradable'. This seems to be a utility which will display packages needing updates regardless

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 05:18:30PM +0200, John Hughes wrote: [cut] > >This was not the case, hopefully. :) > ITYM "thankfully".  "Hopefully" would imply that you doubted Chris Lamb's > word. > I am not a native English speaker, and I often might misuse adverbs ;) Let's carry on. KatolaZ --

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread John Hughes
On 26/10/17 17:05, KatolaZ wrote: John, I was among those who tried to calm the storm down. As I noted.  It didn't seem to have much effect though. We should all try to be a bit more careful before coming to conclusions. I agree. Unfortunately, we have seen already silly things coming from

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:36:18PM +0200, John Hughes wrote: [cut] > > Frankly it seems that some people have been rather fast to assume bad faith > and very few people who commented either knew what they were talking about > or made the slightest effort to actually understand what Chris Lamb

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread John Hughes
On 26/10/17 16:06, KatolaZ wrote: please discard the angry comments. Evidently not everybody had a full understanding of what was going on, before posting them. We repeatedly said that there was no reason to freak out, and that the situation was under control. Thanks for confirming it yourself

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-26 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 03:50:26PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > Hi -dng, > > > […] > > I am the maintainer of Redis in Debian. All I have done is removed some > ill-conceived hooks that were not used by anyone. I have not dropped > sysvinit support and nor do I have any intention to do so. I only

[DNG] gpg 2.2.x devuan jessie no TOFU TLS

2017-10-26 Thread Fulano Diego Perez
cannot work this out installed sqlite3 and gnutls available packages and -dev packages anybody confirm a working devuan jessie 2.2.x install and care to explain ? many thank yous -- -- GnuPG v2.2.1 has been configured as follows: Revision: 355ca9e

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis non systemd

2017-10-26 Thread John Hughes
On 26/10/17 15:55, John Hughes wrote: They are around 89 lines long.  Hardly broken compared to most init scripts, check out /etc/init.d/sendmail -- a 1321 line monster in some versions. Duh, hardly "bloated" I meant to say. ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis non systemd

2017-10-26 Thread John Hughes
On 25/10/17 19:51, Steve Litt wrote: How bout this: Have a "runit-supervisor-only" pacakge that installs runit but doesn't make it PID1. Have sysvinit run runit, and have runit run redis, with all the correct config. The runit run script is probably 1/10 the size of its bloatacious and

Re: [DNG] many many 404 when upgrading/installing packages

2017-10-26 Thread Fulano Diego Perez
KatolaZ: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 01:15:08PM +, Fulano Diego Perez wrote: >> >> >> KatolaZ: >>> # apt-get update >>> >>> before trying to install/upgrade packages? One reason why you might >>> have a 404 is that the cache kept by apt is older than the actual >>> version. >> >> dont be

[DNG] libvirt virt-manager permissions ?

2017-10-26 Thread Fulano Diego Perez
anybody have advice about getting virt-manager working ? what are required perms for qcows ? always get similar errors on any debian distro except subgraph which always works without changing perms, currently 600 root:root i have apparmor installed --- The emulator may not

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-10-26 Thread fsmithred
On 10/25/2017 08:05 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Using the virtualbox package from either jessie (4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1) > or jessie-backports (5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2) with a stock linux-image-amd64 > (3.16+63) from jessie works fine. That is, it installs without errors > and virtualbox images start

Re: [DNG] UEFI and Secure Boot

2017-10-26 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 10/23/2017 09:12 PM, zap wrote: no blobs of any kind with regard to wifi especially! Yes! and of course a an open source firmware with fully open source silicon init. (ex: TALOS 2, KCMA-D8, KGPE-D16, Novena and a few others with the G505S being the most free modern laptop with IOMMU and no