Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-12 20:40, spiralofhope wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:01:42 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: * they're trying to introduce a kind of legal system into a tech project this. It's the introduction of a parallel legal system. It is then used as a special exception to

Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:01:42 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > * they're trying to introduce a kind of legal system into a tech > project this. It's the introduction of a parallel legal system. It is then used as a special exception to the actual legal system, as a tool of

Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:20:00 +0100 Rowland Penny wrote: > You know what, that sounds very like what the EU is trying to become, > thank your deity we are getting out of it. FYI, "The European Union".. 1) Internally refers to themselves as "The Union". 2) Has been making efforts to include

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/12/18 4:55 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:35:17PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Thanks for the responses. I suspect that IPv6 might indeed be the culprit. I doubt it, since both traceroutes are using IPv4, and both have odd delays. $ traceroute google.com

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:35:17PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Thanks for the responses. I suspect that IPv6 might indeed be the culprit. I doubt it, since both traceroutes are using IPv4, and both have odd delays. > $ traceroute google.com > traceroute to google.com (74.125.129.102), 30

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > True, if it's IPv6 *only*. > > That's pretty unusual at present. My point being that this assumption should be borne in mind and if necessary revisited, if shutting off IPV6. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 13 October 2018 at 00:26:04, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@dyne.org: > > >Disabling IPv6 can be done with adding in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > > > >net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 > > > > > >and executing sysctl -p or reboot > > > Well, might make it really difficult to use

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > >Disabling IPv6 can be done with adding in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > >net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 > > > >and executing sysctl -p or reboot > > > >Grtz. > > > >Nick > > > > > > Thanks Nick. Much appreciated. Will sort that later and report

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-12 17:06, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: On 12-10-18 23:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-10-12 15:25, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 was

Re: [DNG] passwordless console autologin

2018-10-12 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 12/10/2018 à 18:43, Alessandro Selli a écrit : On 12/10/18 at 14:14, Florian Zieboll wrote: Hallo, for a video display, I installed devuan with a passwordless console autologin, but my current configuration (below) gives me a "deprecated" warning: /etc/login.defs

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 12-10-18 23:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-10-12 15:25, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): >> >>> I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 >>> was preferred but my ISP connection does not have IPv6. After

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-12 15:25, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 was preferred but my ISP connection does not have IPv6. After 60 seconds ssh time out and changed back to IPv4 and

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): > I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 > was preferred but my ISP connection does not have IPv6. After 60 seconds > ssh time out and changed back to IPv4 and made connection after all. > After

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 12-10-18 21:21, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > Something funny is going on with my networking.  It's taking a very > long time to resolve host IPs across all browsers. It's been happening > for a week or two but I'm just now getting annoyed enough to > troubleshoot. > > When

Re: [DNG] passwordless console autologin

2018-10-12 Thread fsmithred
On 10/12/2018 11:39 AM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > Very nice, thank you! (I guess it's OK to reply to the list?!) > > Florian > > Yes, I clicked the wrong button. (I guess I need more practice.) fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
Greetings everyone, Something funny is going on with my networking. It's taking a very long time to resolve host IPs across all browsers. It's been happening for a week or two but I'm just now getting annoyed enough to troubleshoot. When I ping Google at 8.8.8.8 or various websites, they

Re: [DNG] passwordless console autologin

2018-10-12 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 12/10/18 at 14:14, Florian Zieboll wrote: > Hallo, > > for a video display, I installed devuan with a passwordless console > autologin, but my current configuration (below) gives me a "deprecated" > warning: > > /etc/login.defs > NO_PASSWORD_CONSOLE tty1 > > /etc/inittab >

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Runit without SysVinit packages

2018-10-12 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 12/10/18 at 15:44, Hendrik Boom wrote: > living with inert systemd scripts   Uh?  What scripts?  What systemd scripts (i.e. executable, interpreted text files) do Devuan packages install? Alessandro -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG

Re: [DNG] passwordless console autologin

2018-10-12 Thread Florian Zieboll
Am 12. Oktober 2018 15:42:54 MESZ schrieb fsmithred : > On 10/12/2018 08:14 AM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > Hallo, > > > > for a video display, I installed devuan with a passwordless console > autologin, but my current configuration (below) gives me a > "deprecated" warning: > > > >

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Runit without SysVinit packages

2018-10-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:56:26AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:55:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:24:44 + > > alecfeld...@disroot.org wrote: > > > > > > > 1. Split the runit package into separate packages with alternate > > > stage files. > > >

[DNG] passwordless console autologin

2018-10-12 Thread Florian Zieboll
Hallo, for a video display, I installed devuan with a passwordless console autologin, but my current configuration (below) gives me a "deprecated" warning: /etc/login.defs NO_PASSWORD_CONSOLE tty1 /etc/inittab 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --autologin devuan tty1 Is there an

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Runit without SysVinit packages

2018-10-12 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:55:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:24:44 + > alecfeld...@disroot.org wrote: > > > > 1. Split the runit package into separate packages with alternate > > stage files. > > > > 2. Provide a configuration file for how runit should act. For > >

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Runit without SysVinit packages

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting alecfeld...@disroot.org (alecfeld...@disroot.org): > First of all, I want to thank the developers for the efforts to > continue debian without "systemd creep". I've experimented with the > distribution on and off, but there's one big turnoff for me currently > that I don't think would