On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:54:25PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Several of you emailed me with package name to add to the list I've
> curated and the list G. Pape has curated. Here are the recent additions
> from this mailing list:
>
>
> acpid
>
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:07:19 +0200
Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote:
I'm going to start off by saying I'm unable to help you with your
quest. In fact, my answers are basically like the local who is asked by
a tourist "How do you get to blah-blah from here" and
Hi all,
Several of you emailed me with package name to add to the list I've
curated and the list G. Pape has curated. Here are the recent additions
from this mailing list:
acpid
apcupsd
apt-cacher-ng
bind9
clamav-daemon
clamav-freshclam
clamav-milter
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message
<826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>:
> Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> > I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in inittab;
> > the following line invokes the daemon which launches all the
>
Hi all,
Install the runit package like any other package. Then put the
following in /etc/inittab, probably at or near the bottom:
sv:123456:respawn:/usr/bin/runsvdir /etc/service "___"
Except the string of underscores contains 85 underscores: I couldn't
put all 85 in email.
When making
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart stuff we have today, if the
HDMI cable has internet, I doubt it, just audio and video.
Just so everybody
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:34:35 +0100
Simon Hobson wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > What I said was that if you like sysvinit, use it, but for gosh
> > sakes don't take the time and energy to modify it or update it or
> > give it systemd features.
>
> +1
> Old does not equal broken. Perhaps
On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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On 21/10/18 21:10, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup
no problem with Jessie without systemd or wheezy, I was running a
intel laptop HDMI to a big
Steve Litt wrote:
> What I said was that if you like sysvinit, use it, but for gosh sakes
> don't take the time and energy to modify it or update it or give it
> systemd features.
+1
Old does not equal broken. Perhaps the reason sysvinit hasn't seen much
maintenance for a while is that it just
On 21/10/18 at 15:32, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 08:50:40AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:25:04 -1000
>> Joel Roth wrote:
>>
>> I don't remember the symlink maintenance scripts, so I
>> usually do this:
>>
>> chmod a-x /etc/init.d/exim4
>> Does your next
Hi all,
With runit, you can either use the "runit way" of recording log files,
in which one looks in the daemon's run directory for something
called .main, or you can use one of several logging programs. I'm using
logger, and a Devuan ASCII VM guest I downloaded has the logger program
and I
Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit :
I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in inittab;
the following line invokes the daemon which launches all the scripts:
si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
Well, there is also the following lines:
l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0
Le 21/10/2018 à 17:19, Steve Litt a écrit :
1) /etc isn't read only
/etc has to be r/w for root if package management is to function!
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On 21/10/2018 16:19, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The runit (or daemontools or s6) service directory is the directory
> which is scanned for symlinks of runit directories. The Debian runit
> package sets it to /etc/service, the Void package sets it
> to /var/service, and both djb and runit
> selling point was th[at] systemd is faster,
SystemD has certainly been touted that way, I personally have not found
it so in practice across a variety of hardware.
There is a catch, one that *any* init system needs to take into
consideration. Whilst a modern CPU can cope with multi-tasking
Hi all,
The runit (or daemontools or s6) service directory is the directory
which is scanned for symlinks of runit directories. The Debian runit
package sets it to /etc/service, the Void package sets it
to /var/service, and both djb and runit author G. Pape recommend
setting it to /service, which
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:14:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:04:22 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>
> > Sounds good. So the runit package would wrap the directory with
> > boilerplate packageing info, including an installation-time shutdown
> > of the sysvinit script.
>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:59:12 -0400, Steve wrote in message
<20181021085912.69aef...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> This is why I asked the question about permanently shutting down a
> sysvinit /etc/init.d/rc5.d script. If, at the same time you or a
> package fired up a runit supervisor for the daemon,
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:04:22 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Sounds good. So the runit package would wrap the directory with
> boilerplate packageing info, including an installation-time shutdown
> of the sysvinit script.
I don't understand a word of the preceding paragraph, which is part of
the
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 08:59:12AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:48:14 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>
> > Or make one package for each daemon's runit directory and make that
> > package depend on the daemon's own package.
>
> That's a lot of work. I'd need considerable
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 08:50:40AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:25:04 -1000
> Joel Roth wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:52:53PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > > On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote:
> > > > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt:
> > > > > In
On 21.10.18 08:18, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt:
> > In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from
> > starting a daemon.
>
> man update-rc.d
>
> You can remove or disable a service.
And e.g. "view /etc/rc2.d/README" recites chapter and verse,
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On 21/10/18 21:10, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup
> no problem with Jessie without systemd or wheezy, I was running a
> intel laptop HDMI to a big screen smart tv, the screen would go
>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:48:14 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Or make one package for each daemon's runit directory and make that
> package depend on the daemon's own package.
That's a lot of work. I'd need considerable help.
>
> If several daemons are together in one package one could combine
>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:25:04 -1000
Joel Roth wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:52:53PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote:
> > > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt:
> > > > In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit
> > > > from
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:25:24 +0200, Martin wrote in message
<14421440.MIaJRJDx6e@merkaba>:
> Adam Borowski - 20.10.18, 22:54:
> > * zip is used by Windows folks only, similar to gzip.
>
> It is also used by LibreOffice (or under-maintained OpenOffice).
>
> […]
> > * 7z is similar but
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:17:24AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 07:19:49 +0200
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
>
> > Unfortunately, pointing to a bunch of scripts is not enough:
>
> It's a starting point. Power-user individuals can start using runit
> today, with no action by any
Hi Steve.
Steve Litt - 21.10.18, 07:52:
> Please view
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/init/runit_daemon_list.htm and if
> you use any daemons not on that list, please email me with the daemon
> name(s) so I can get run scripts for them.
- quasselcore
- rsyslog
- syslog-ng
Whoa, there even is
Le 20/10/2018 à 22:54, Adam Borowski a écrit :
bzip2 is drastically slower (esp. at decompression) than xz and zstd; it
needs to die.
There's a version of bzip2 which can parallellize the compression
while producing a compatible format. When compression has been
parallellized,
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:52:53PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote:
> > Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt:
> > > In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from
> > > starting a daemon.
> >
> > man update-rc.d
> >
> > You can remove
On 10/21/18 4:15 AM, m712 wrote:
This is not related to systemd. It sounds more like Xrandr and pulseaudio/alsa favoring
your HDMI more than your laptop. The Linux kernel doesn't "know" about avahi
daemon in the sense that there is no code for it in the Linux source tree. Did you ever
log
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 01:52:23 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Please view
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/init/runit_daemon_list.htm and if
> you use any daemons not on that list, please email me with the daemon
> name(s) so I can get run scripts for them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
Adam Borowski - 20.10.18, 22:54:
> * zip is used by Windows folks only, similar to gzip.
It is also used by LibreOffice (or under-maintained OpenOffice).
[…]
> * 7z is similar but incompatible to xz; also a container rather than a
> pure compressor.
There can be benefits of container
On 10/21/18 3:33 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
KatolaZ - 21.10.18, 11:21:
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:43:42AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[…]
Dear Jimmy,
unfortunately the world is not divided into "good" vs "bad" at all
times.
A world divided into "good" versus "bad" would be like "black"
This is not related to systemd. It sounds more like Xrandr and pulseaudio/alsa
favoring your HDMI more than your laptop. The Linux kernel doesn't "know" about
avahi daemon in the sense that there is no code for it in the Linux source
tree. Did you ever log those HTTP requests by chance?
On
Am Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2018 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Steve Litt - 20.10.18, 03:55:
> > Some folks are asking for automatic sysvinit init script generation,
> > or else unit file to sysvinit init script converters. Some are asking
> > Devuan's developers to prioritize their scarce programmer
Martin Steigerwald - 21.10.18, 12:20:
> It is entirely my choice to focus on helping to bring the healing
> process along. And I will mediate and let go to also facilitate the
meditate I meant here. Did not catch this while proof-reading my mail.
> healing process between us as well. Cause
KatolaZ - 21.10.18, 11:21:
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:43:42AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[…]
> Dear Jimmy,
>
> unfortunately the world is not divided into "good" vs "bad" at all
> times.
A world divided into "good" versus "bad" would be like "black" and
"white" to me. I am happy to be able
Jimmy.
I don't know where you have that anger and hatred towards me from, but I
answer nonetheless:
Jimmy Johnson - 21.10.18, 10:43:
> On 10/21/18 12:25 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
[… most outrage and hatred towards me skipped …]
> > None of the Devuan developers would let go of the important
On 10/21/18 2:50 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:33:33 -0700, Jimmy wrote in message
:
On 10/21/18 2:16 AM, m712 wrote:
Nobody can help you if you don't explain your point. The only thing
we got so far is your conspiracy theory of rkhunter masking
"false"-false-positives for
On 21-10-18 12:10, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
> Thanks for the post.
>
> I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup no
> problem with Jessie without systemd or wheezy, I was running a intel
> laptop HDMI to a big screen smart tv, the screen would go black and
> the audio would
On 10/21/18 1:19 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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Hi Rick,
On 21/10/18 14:42, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
Who remembers when rootkit hunter started showing problems and
Debian said they where false positive
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:33:33 -0700, Jimmy wrote in message
:
> On 10/21/18 2:16 AM, m712 wrote:
> > Nobody can help you if you don't explain your point. The only thing
> > we got so far is your conspiracy theory of rkhunter masking
> > "false"-false-positives for systemd and an incoherent claim
On 10/21/18 2:16 AM, m712 wrote:
Nobody can help you if you don't explain your point. The only thing we got so far is your
conspiracy theory of rkhunter masking "false"-false-positives for systemd and
an incoherent claim of the Linux kernel doing HTTP requests to somewhere.
What makes your
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:43:42AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
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> >
> > So are you ready to just let go of it… and move on with whatever is
> > really important to you? Are you ready to focus on what you self can do,
> > instead of insisting to control how other people spend their time?
>
Nobody can help you if you don't explain your point. The only thing we got so
far is your conspiracy theory of rkhunter masking "false"-false-positives for
systemd and an incoherent claim of the Linux kernel doing HTTP requests to
somewhere.
On October 21, 2018 11:46:07 AM GMT+03:00, Jimmy
On 10/21/18 1:00 AM, m712 wrote:
Why do you think people will help you if you can't give any specifics and keep
shouting expletives at people?
Let me know when someone is trying to help? :)
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Slackware64 Current - KDE 4.14.38 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda9
Registered Linux User
On 10/21/18 12:25 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
1) In Debian sysvinit is basically unmaintained. To prevent that Debian
removes sysvinit and maintainers of individual daemon packages probably
remove init scripts then, it is important to have sysvinit maintained
again, including updating it to
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Hi Rick,
On 21/10/18 14:42, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
>
>> Who remembers when rootkit hunter started showing problems and
>> Debian said they where false positive problems? I think it was
>> sometime
Why do you think people will help you if you can't give any specifics and keep
shouting expletives at people?
On October 21, 2018 10:55:18 AM GMT+03:00, Jimmy Johnson
wrote:
>On 10/21/18 12:35 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
>>
>>> Who says you have
On 10/21/18 12:35 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
Who says you have to read my post
You know, never mind. Much is now clearer.
What's clearer Rick, how you can save Linux or you've found someone you
can't F*** with? Are you a good guy or a bad
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
> Who says you have to read my post
You know, never mind. Much is now clearer.
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On 10/21/18 12:06 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
Don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you didn't read or
recall the incident I remember. And you have nothing helpful to add?
No, I really do not. And I'm not up for groping around in
Steve Litt - 20.10.18, 03:55:
> Some folks are asking for automatic sysvinit init script generation,
> or else unit file to sysvinit init script converters. Some are asking
> Devuan's developers to prioritize their scarce programmer resources
> to modifying sysvinit, which is over 30 years old.
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
> Don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you didn't read or
> recall the incident I remember. And you have nothing helpful to add?
No, I really do not. And I'm not up for groping around in archives for
an unspecified and apparently
On 10/20/18 11:18 PM, J. Fahrner wrote:
Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt:
In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from
starting a daemon.
man update-rc.d
You can remove or disable a service.
Jochen
Can a person simple remove the 'exe' properties from the rc-*
On 10/20/18 11:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 07:50:48 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
Am 2018-10-21 03:41, schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
Pottering only selling point was the systemd is faster, my testings
on many systems says that's a lie. I'm not saying it can't be
faster, while using
Am 2018-10-21 08:10, schrieb Steve Litt:
In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from
starting a daemon.
man update-rc.d
You can remove or disable a service.
Jochen
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Hi all,
In Devuan, what's the command to permanently prevent sysvinit from
starting a daemon.
Yeah, I know I could research this, but I don't need to become a
sysvinit expert when so many such experts reside here.
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt
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On 10/20/18 8:42 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com):
Who remembers when rootkit hunter started showing problems and
Debian said they where false positive problems? I think it was
sometime during the development of Stretch. Well they fixed rootkit
hunter to
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 07:50:48 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Am 2018-10-21 03:41, schrieb Jimmy Johnson:
> > Pottering only selling point was the systemd is faster, my testings
> > on many systems says that's a lie. I'm not saying it can't be
> > faster, while using systemd if I push and hold the
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