Re: [DNG] spam from 'submit@bugs.devuan' !?

2018-10-30 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:21:52PM +, stanz wrote: > Hi All... > I'm not really finished with my disappearance act (aka: relocation & more), > and no real time to check email (hence-the age of this mail)... > I thought this best sent here, then the forum...not sure--but ya got to know > this.

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-30 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/30/18 4:34 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:00:23 -0700, Bruce wrote in message : On 10/30/18 3:55 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:06:33 -0700, Bruce wrote in message <34aa7646-0df8-ceec-b3ff-98c5b34f1...@baywinds.org>: On 10/29/18 3:02 PM,

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: > > > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and > > has become contaminated with systemd.

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:00:23 -0700, Bruce wrote in message : > On 10/30/18 3:55 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:06:33 -0700, Bruce wrote in message > > <34aa7646-0df8-ceec-b3ff-98c5b34f1...@baywinds.org>: > > > >> On 10/29/18 3:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > >>> OK. 

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-30 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/30/18 3:55 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:06:33 -0700, Bruce wrote in message <34aa7646-0df8-ceec-b3ff-98c5b34f1...@baywinds.org>: On 10/29/18 3:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: OK.  Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the wikipedia page),  I'm

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:58:47 +, Rowland wrote in message <20181028205847.7fac4...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > IBM is buying Red Hat. > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-28/ibm-is-said-to-near-deal-to-acquire-software-maker-red-hat > > Rowland ...and may be "coming

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:06:33 -0700, Bruce wrote in message <34aa7646-0df8-ceec-b3ff-98c5b34f1...@baywinds.org>: > On 10/29/18 3:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > OK.  Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of > > the wikipedia page),  I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20181030180103.7xwhnvyqbs6zn...@topoi.pooq.com>: > I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and > has become contaminated with systemd. ..they blindly accepted it? > So, naturally, I replaced it with

[DNG] spam from 'submit@bugs.devuan' !?

2018-10-30 Thread stanz
Hi All... I'm not really finished with my disappearance act (aka: relocation & more), and no real time to check email (hence-the age of this mail)... I thought this best sent here, then the forum...not sure--but ya got to know this. so, this is header stuff, if ya need more - ask!

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-30 Thread chillfan
Hah. If you have salt a butter, then yes. Personally feel like they can fight over cloud all they want, there are so many storage solutions available. Cheers, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:00 PM, wrote: > Obviously this has to have been planned in

[DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
I use Devuan on a Purism laptop. Purism's OS is based on Debian, and has become contaminated with systemd. So, naturally, I replaced it with Devuan. It works very well, except for a problem with the touchpad. I can move the mouse pointer around by stroking the touch pad and I can do the

[DNG] [OT] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)

2018-10-30 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:15:42 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:31:56AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> > >> # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a > >> file. > > > > Maybe because muscle memory know the editor commands for finding > > things in

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-30 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-30 02:48, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 30/10/18 05:06, taii...@gmx.com wrote: I wouldn't consider this necessarily doom and gloom Some might say IBM "helped" derail the AU census... and more, but the AU gov't keeps giving them support after multiple alleged botch ups where they can

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-30 Thread Clarke Sideroad
I too get 'em on my gmail account once in a while and have to confirm my subscription. It happens once every 2 months or so, therefore in my case I would not consider it excessive. (-; Clarke ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-30 Thread Irrwahn
KatolaZ wrote on 30.10.18 13:52: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:28:04AM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: [...] >> So there clearly is some kind of inconsistency in present ceres which makes >> debootstrap reproducible go belly-up. >> > > Hi Irrwhan, > > you are right. Working on it. Update soon. Sorry for

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/10/2018 à 13:38, Adam Borowski a écrit : In that case, memcpy() is strictly better: * faster: + no need to compare every byte + can copy longer strings a word at a time * safer: you don't get the false impression it'd null-terminate the string for you     Wether the function is

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-30 Thread aitor_czr
Hi KatolaZ, On 10/30/2018 01:52 PM, KatolaZ wrote: Hi Irrwhan, you are right. Working on it. Update soon. Sorry for the inconvenience. HND KatolaZ I'm removing the 'su' files from shadow (login). An empty dummy package for udevin Ceres is required too. Otherwise, debootstrap will not

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-30 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:28:04AM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: [cut] > bails out while extracting util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan1_amd64.deb, leaving > the following lines in debootstrap.log: > > tar: ./bin/su: Cannot open: File exists > tar: ./etc/pam.d/su: Cannot open: File exists > tar:

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:01:15AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 29/10/2018 à 22:42, Adam Borowski a écrit : > > Well, it is possible to use strcpy() right. On the other hand, _every_ use > > of strncpy() for a C string is a bug. > >     Let's assume "the programmer knows what she is doing"

Re: [DNG] How to get CERES

2018-10-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 02:24:12PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Ceres is the unstable branch and changes on a daily basis. There is no >> installer for it (that I know of). If you want to create a Ceres VM, >> start with an Ascii one and >> >> sed -i

Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)

2018-10-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:31:56AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a file. > > Maybe because muscle memory know the editor commands for finding things in it. I'll give you that but when folks are

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/10/2018 à 22:42, Adam Borowski a écrit : On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:28:02PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Daniel Taylor (ran...@argle.org): They do, but that's not an excuse for using strcpy(). Which they did. Of course, obviously. You _are_ aware I was merely trying to help by

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-30 Thread Irrwahn
KatolaZ wrote on 30.10.18 08:19: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 08:10:37AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] >> Building Ceres with the live-sdk, i've got the >> following errors related with 'su' in the debootstrap.log file: >> >> tar: ./bin/su: Cannot open: File exists >> tar: ./etc/pam.d/su: Cannot

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-30 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 30/10/18 05:06, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I wouldn't consider this necessarily doom and gloom Some might say IBM "helped" derail the AU census... and more, but the AU gov't keeps giving them support after multiple alleged botch ups where they can /claim/ it to not be their fault. It may

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-30 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 08:10:37AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] > > Referring to the packaging of util-linux again, the latest packaging > contains replicated dh-autoreconf in debian/rules. Removing them it'll build > succesfully. > >

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-30 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 08/03/2018 03:42 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: My monthly Devuan Docker image rebuild bombed today on ceres[1]. The base images for jessie, ascii and beowulf(!) built just fine. Looking into this, I found this in the debootstrap.log dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of