Re: [DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting terryc (ter...@woa.com.au):

> 1. What do people recommend as online sources for Bind configuration
> these days.

Online book _DNS for Rocket Scientists_,
http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/.

> 2. what programs do you recommend for checking the configuration files.

named-checkconf .  It comes with BIND9, but many admins are unaware of
it and its essential nature -- that being where the otherwise woefully
lacking linting routines are.

At my former place of work, after I started including this preflight
check in all change control requests, my colleagues dubbed it 'the Rick
Test' and it became a local standard -- rather flattering, really.

   /usr/sbin/named-checkconf -z -t /var/named/chroot/ /etc/named.conf | \
   egrep -v '(loaded serial|all zones must be in views)'

The -z option causes the utility to syntax-check all referenced 
zonefiles in addition to conffiles.  And you can skip the '-t
/var/named/chroot/' bit if you aren't running BIND9 in a chroot.

I would discourage new installations of BIND9, as it's a slow,
RAM-grabbing, overfeatured, monolithic daemon binary, and you can do
better.  If this is for authoritative-only service, look no further than
NSD, a relatively easy migration because it uses directly re-use RFC
1035 ("BIND") zonefiles (which it compiles to binary format for speed).

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Network_Other/dns-servers.html#nsd


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Re: [DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 09:56:21PM +1100, terryc wrote:
> 1. What do people recommend as online sources for Bind configuration
> these days.

The bind9 administrator reference manual, which you can find at
isc.org, or as part of the bind9-doc package.

> 
> 2. what programs do you recommend for checking the configuration files.
> 

For configuration files, named-checkconf(8), for zones named-checkzone(8).

> The problem I'm hitting is the format of woa.com.au/192.168.0.0 zone
> files and despite carefully deriving ones from examples in the Debian
> wiki I'm getting conflicting error listing. Frustrating.

If these are in-addr.arpa. PTR records, they could be conflicting with
the RFC 1918 zones bind9 includes by default.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 15:40:56 -0500
Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> > I bounced to Mandrake briefly then Suse for an even shorter time before
> > realizing that apt was better than rpm and became a Debian user.  

> It was the janitor at my local church that told me to switch form Mandrake
> to Debian.  Good advice!

I did the same, then to Devuan, but now am considering PCLinuxOS; I do miss all 
the Drake* tools   ;-3)
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 08:32:59AM -0500, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> I bounced to Mandrake briefly then Suse for an even shorter time before
> realizing that apt was better than rpm and became a Debian user.

It was the janitor at my local church that told me to switch form Mandrake
to Debian.  Good advice!

> I stayed with Debian until they forked off the righteous path and followed
> the devil that is systemd and committed a multitude of sins against their
> supporters, at that point the short hop to Devuan was obviously the right
> way to handle the situation.

Yes.

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Re: [DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread Simon Hobson
terryc  wrote:

> The problem I'm hitting is the format of woa.com.au/192.168.0.0 zone
> files and despite carefully deriving ones from examples in the Debian
> wiki I'm getting conflicting error listing. Frustrating.

What sort of problems are you getting ? Some of us here have a bit of 
experience with BIND.

Or there's the BIND-users mailing list where I've found the regulars helpful in 
the past.
https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

And don't forget that there's a manual for BIND, the BIND Advanced Reference 
Manual where everything is documented.

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[DNG] grub efi in ceres broken?

2018-11-06 Thread Chris Dos
Anyone running Ceres and grub-efi-amd64?  The latest version 2.02+dfsg1-8
boots to a grub prompt.  I suspect it is the new grub-efi-amd64-signed
package.  Though I have not been able to figure out how to debug it.

At the prompt I can give it the
set root=(gpt,hd5)
configfile /grub/grub.cfg

And then the grub menu comes up and it will boot.  Rolling back to
2.02~beta3-5 results in grub behaving normally.

Chris
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Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread Clarke Sideroad

On 2018-11-06 5:14 a.m., Adam Borowski wrote:


The less people use Red Hat, the more migrate our way.


Meow!


I'm having a deja vu over this, IIRC Red Hat did this before probably 
about 20 years ago and it caused me to jump ship.
It was a prelude to their short lived Gnome reblend as one desktop 
environment to suit everybody.
I bounced to Mandrake briefly then Suse for an even shorter time before 
realizing that apt was better than rpm and became a Debian user.
I stayed with Debian until they forked off the righteous path and 
followed the devil that is systemd and committed a multitude of sins 
against their supporters, at that point the short hop to Devuan was 
obviously the right way to handle the situation.


Keep the candle lit and they will come.

Thanks to the Devuan devs and supporters and of course the good people 
at Debian.


Clarke





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Re: [DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread wirelessduck


> On 6 Nov 2018, at 21:56, terryc  wrote:
> 
> 1. What do people recommend as online sources for Bind configuration
> these days.
> 
> 2. what programs do you recommend for checking the configuration files.
> 
> 
> LS; My antique hardware that was the nameserver and web for the LAN
> suffered a motherboard failure and I need to configure a replacement
> nameserver on the mail server.
> 
> The old bind configuration held strong, with minor fiddling from before
> version 8 and it has been easy to get as forwarding nameserver runnming.
> 
> The problem I'm hitting is the format of woa.com.au/192.168.0.0 zone
> files and despite carefully deriving ones from examples in the Debian
> wiki I'm getting conflicting error listing. Frustrating.
> 
> Hence asking for tips so I can keep some hair. TIA.

http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/

It’s based on fedora so the configuration files and locations might be slightly 
different.

named-checkconf and named-checkzone will check your configuration files and 
zone files respectively.

HTH

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[DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread terryc
1. What do people recommend as online sources for Bind configuration
these days.

2. what programs do you recommend for checking the configuration files.


LS; My antique hardware that was the nameserver and web for the LAN
suffered a motherboard failure and I need to configure a replacement
nameserver on the mail server.

The old bind configuration held strong, with minor fiddling from before
version 8 and it has been easy to get as forwarding nameserver runnming.

The problem I'm hitting is the format of woa.com.au/192.168.0.0 zone
files and despite carefully deriving ones from examples in the Debian
wiki I'm getting conflicting error listing. Frustrating.

Hence asking for tips so I can keep some hair. TIA.



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Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> J. Fahrner - 06.11.18, 10:21:
> > Next step after systemd: Red Hat ends KDE support.
> > Gnome will be the only supported dekstop environment.
> 
> As I wrote there, I do not think there is much to see or anything to 
> really be upset about. I do not believe that the KDE community depends 
> in any major way on whether RedHat kind of supports KDE or not.

They also ship a lot less software than Debian, requiring people who want
important pieces to take them from some random repositories such as EPEL.

Just this sort-of-weekend (Nov 1st is a holiday in Poland) I was helping
people from old²-work because a customer of theirs insists on CentOS.  And
needs firebird (the database).  They used CentOS with EPEL packages, until
suddenly EPEL upgraded firebird to a version that broke compat with the
program that firebird is a backend for, in a security upgrade.  Not knowing
a thing about the RPM world, I had to hunt down some other random derivative
that happened to carry required version of firebird.  Not fun.

So KDE is exactly on the same boat: not in Red Hat proper, you need some
random external repository.

> Those questionable decisions affect their enterprise customers. But I do 
> not think they affect the communities in any major way.

The less people use Red Hat, the more migrate our way.


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Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
J. Fahrner - 06.11.18, 10:21:
> Next step after systemd: Red Hat ends KDE support.
> Gnome will be the only supported dekstop environment.
> https://hub.packtpub.com/soon-rhel-red-hat-enterprise-linux-wont-suppo
> rt-kde/

We discussed this before in "ascii upgrade /w KDE" thread.

As I wrote there, I do not think there is much to see or anything to 
really be upset about. I do not believe that the KDE community depends 
in any major way on whether RedHat kind of supports KDE or not. See 
also:

https://jriddell.org/2018/11/02/red-hat-and-kde/

SUSE dropped KDE for SLES 12 before, while OpenSUSE still carries and 
supports it. I am pretty sure that Fedora will just support KDE as it 
did so before.

Those questionable decisions affect their enterprise customers. But I do 
not think they affect the communities in any major way.

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[DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread J. Fahrner

Next step after systemd: Red Hat ends KDE support.
Gnome will be the only supported dekstop environment.
https://hub.packtpub.com/soon-rhel-red-hat-enterprise-linux-wont-support-kde/

Jochen

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Re: [DNG] Debian (and therefore Devuan) runit package needs a little help

2018-11-06 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2018-10-26 23:05, schrieb Steve Litt:


Install the runit package like any other package. Then put the
following in /etc/inittab, probably at or near the bottom:



sv:123456:respawn:/usr/bin/runsvdir /etc/service "___"



Except the string of underscores contains 85 underscores: I couldn't
put all 85 in email.


The package runit-sysv does that for you.

Jochen
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