Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
[root@noyb devuan]# mkdir raspi2 raspi3 [root@noyb devuan]# mount -o loop,offset=$((512*8192)) devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2.img raspi2 [root@noyb devuan]# mount -o loop,offset=$((512*2048)) devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img raspi3 ^^^ Differing partitioning, doesn't matter [root@noyb devuan]# diff raspi2 raspi3 Binary files raspi2/bcm2708-rpi-0-w.dtb and raspi3/bcm2708-rpi-0-w.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2708-rpi-b.dtb and raspi3/bcm2708-rpi-b.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2708-rpi-b-plus.dtb and raspi3/bcm2708-rpi-b-plus.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2708-rpi-cm.dtb and raspi3/bcm2708-rpi-cm.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2709-rpi-2-b.dtb and raspi3/bcm2709-rpi-2-b.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2710-rpi-3-b.dtb and raspi3/bcm2710-rpi-3-b.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2710-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb and raspi3/bcm2710-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb differ Binary files raspi2/bcm2710-rpi-cm3.dtb and raspi3/bcm2710-rpi-cm3.dtb differ Differing Device Tree Blobs can matter Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-a.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-a-plus.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-b.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-b-plus.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-b-rev2.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-zero.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2835-rpi-zero-w.dtb Only in raspi2: bcm2836-rpi-2-b.dtb Binary files raspi2/bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb and raspi3/bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb differ Definitely matters, Broadcom code in your case will cause bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb to be pulled in regardless of which image you use (assuming you have a 3B not a 3B+). diff raspi2/config.txt raspi3/config.txt 11a12,14 > > ## kernel > kernel=kernel8.img Binary files raspi2/kernel7.img and raspi3/kernel7.img differ Only in raspi3: kernel8.img Common subdirectories: raspi2/overlays and raspi3/overlays Suggest you copy the Broadcom binaries from a working image (stretch) and overwrite the devuan ones (or just try with bcm2837-rpi-3-b.dtb copied over first). Please report back the results if you try this. As an aside VLC media player has just been ported to work with the Raspberry Pi accelerated hardware. On 05/12/2018 09:56, Joril wrote: > On 05/12/2018 10:41, KatolaZ wrote: > >>> I see, but the Raspbian Stretch image (armhf) DOES work on this RPI3B, >>> shouldn't the Devuan armhf image work too? >> >> According to which principle should the Devuan rpi2 image work as >> well, again? ;) There is an rpi3 image in the same place you have >> found the rpi2. > > Yes, but according to devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt, section "Currently > supported images" > this bullet point: > > * Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 (raspi2) > > led me to believe there was a chance that the raspi2 image would work on a > RPI3 as well :) > > >> The choice made by raspbian is sub-optimal: they basically provide an >> image for the least common config that works on as many different rpi >> models as possible. If you have an armv8, why should you run it as if >> it were an armv7 or an armv6? o_O > > I'd agree with you but what I'm trying to run on this rpi is omxplayer, a > Raspberry-tailored > media player that's only provided as a 32bit binary :/ [1] > I know I could try to compile it manually but there is evidence [2] that it > would not be a > speedy task, so I thought that if I could get Devuan armhf to run, I'd get > the job done more > quickly. > > 1: https://omxplayer.sconde.net > 2: > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/235844/does-omxplayer-run-on-normal-64bit > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.
On 05/12/2018, Antony Stone wrote: > On Wednesday 05 December 2018 at 17:41:22, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> Further Optimization: >> >> Is it possible to configure Devuan on Raspberry Pi 3B+, so that, >> bash_history, settings pertaining to bash, and other user >> configuration files from being updated every time such an application >> is used? > > Er, sorry, but what's the verb in that sentence? > > Did you perhaps mean "... configuration files *are prevented* from being > ..."? > > If so, I believe you just need to set HISTFILESIZE to zero. > > I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "settings pertaining to bash". > >> If there is some other things I am not aware of, please inform me. > > I'm not an expert on running read-only systems (although I'm certainly > interested), so I'll let others chip in with expertise here :) > > > Antony. > The 'ink' evaporated. Next time I will use a better brand. [ /Humour ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.
On Wednesday 05 December 2018 at 17:41:22, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Further Optimization: > > Is it possible to configure Devuan on Raspberry Pi 3B+, so that, > bash_history, settings pertaining to bash, and other user > configuration files from being updated every time such an application > is used? Er, sorry, but what's the verb in that sentence? Did you perhaps mean "... configuration files *are prevented* from being ..."? If so, I believe you just need to set HISTFILESIZE to zero. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "settings pertaining to bash". > If there is some other things I am not aware of, please inform me. I'm not an expert on running read-only systems (although I'm certainly interested), so I'll let others chip in with expertise here :) Antony. -- The Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals was formed in 1824. The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children was not formed until 1884. That says something about the British. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.
Further Optimization: Is it possible to configure Devuan on Raspberry Pi 3B+, so that, bash_history, settings pertaining to bash, and other user configuration files from being updated every time such an application is used? If there is some other things I am not aware of, please inform me. Thanks. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On 05/12/2018 11:12, KatolaZ wrote: * Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 (raspi2) Please accept my apologies: you are right, and my reply was too hasty. I guess the problem is that you are possibly using a later RPI3 version, which needs a different firmware. parazyd can probably confirm. Sorry again. No worries :) If I'm not mistaken parazyd isn't on this list, so I'll try and ask him directly. Thanks for your time and to everyone who answered! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??
Il 16/11/2018 alle 10:11, Daniel Reurich ha scritto: > So... for Devuan, do we want to default to a merged /usr in our coming > release of Beowulf I vote NO: keep it as it is. I've seen the merged /usr in Void Linux, hated it. -- Dario Niedermann. Also on the Internet at: gopher://darioniedermann.it/ <> https://www.darioniedermann.it/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 11:08:39AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > Where are you getting that information from? The README.txt you should > refer to is at: > > https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt > > And in that file you find: > > Currently supported images: > > * Acer Chromebook (chromeacer) > * Veyron/Rockchip Chromebook (chromeveyron) > * Nokia N900 (n900) > * Nokia N950 (n950) > * Nokia N9 (n9) > * Motorola Droid 4 (droid4) > * Odroid XU (odroidxu) > * Odroid XU4 (odroidxu4) > * Raspberry Pi 0 and 1 (raspi1) > * Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 (raspi2) Please accept my apologies: you are right, and my reply was too hasty. I guess the problem is that you are possibly using a later RPI3 version, which needs a different firmware. parazyd can probably confirm. Sorry again. KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 10:56:47AM +0100, Joril wrote: > On 05/12/2018 10:41, KatolaZ wrote: > > > > I see, but the Raspbian Stretch image (armhf) DOES work on this RPI3B, > > > shouldn't the Devuan armhf image work too? > > > > According to which principle should the Devuan rpi2 image work as > > well, again? ;) There is an rpi3 image in the same place you have > > found the rpi2. > > Yes, but according to devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt, section "Currently > supported images" this bullet point: > > * Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 (raspi2) > > led me to believe there was a chance that the raspi2 image would work on a > RPI3 as well :) Where are you getting that information from? The README.txt you should refer to is at: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt And in that file you find: Currently supported images: * Acer Chromebook (chromeacer) * Veyron/Rockchip Chromebook (chromeveyron) * Nokia N900 (n900) * Nokia N950 (n950) * Nokia N9 (n9) * Motorola Droid 4 (droid4) * Odroid XU (odroidxu) * Odroid XU4 (odroidxu4) * Raspberry Pi 0 and 1 (raspi1) * Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 (raspi2) * Raspberry Pi 3 64bit (raspi3) * Beaglebone Black (beagleboneblack) o_O Cannot even be the README.txt under devuan_jessie/embedded/, since also jessie had raspi1, raspi2, and raspi3. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On 05/12/2018 10:41, KatolaZ wrote: I see, but the Raspbian Stretch image (armhf) DOES work on this RPI3B, shouldn't the Devuan armhf image work too? According to which principle should the Devuan rpi2 image work as well, again? ;) There is an rpi3 image in the same place you have found the rpi2. Yes, but according to devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt, section "Currently supported images" this bullet point: * Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 (raspi2) led me to believe there was a chance that the raspi2 image would work on a RPI3 as well :) The choice made by raspbian is sub-optimal: they basically provide an image for the least common config that works on as many different rpi models as possible. If you have an armv8, why should you run it as if it were an armv7 or an armv6? o_O I'd agree with you but what I'm trying to run on this rpi is omxplayer, a Raspberry-tailored media player that's only provided as a 32bit binary :/ [1] I know I could try to compile it manually but there is evidence [2] that it would not be a speedy task, so I thought that if I could get Devuan armhf to run, I'd get the job done more quickly. 1: https://omxplayer.sconde.net 2: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/235844/does-omxplayer-run-on-normal-64bit ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 09:43:59AM +0100, Joril wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot on a > Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black screen... Am I > missing something or am I using the wrong image? Yes, you are missing the fact that there is an image for rpi3, in the same folder :) Please use that one. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 10:08:24AM +0100, Federico Fanton wrote: > On 05/12/2018 10:02, Rowland Penny wrote: > > > > I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot > > > on a Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black > > > screen... Am I missing something or am I using the wrong image? > > > devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img works, but that's the 64bit image > > > and I'd like to stick to 32bit ATM (=omxplayer support) > > > > > > > I think you have answered yourself, the rpi2 uses an arm Cortex-A7 > > CPU and the rpi3 uses an BCM2837 64bit CPU (which is armv8). > > I see, but the Raspbian Stretch image (armhf) DOES work on this RPI3B, > shouldn't the Devuan armhf image work too? According to which principle should the Devuan rpi2 image work as well, again? ;) There is an rpi3 image in the same place you have found the rpi2. The choice made by raspbian is sub-optimal: they basically provide an image for the least common config that works on as many different rpi models as possible. If you have an armv8, why should you run it as if it were an armv7 or an armv6? o_O My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On 05/12/2018 10:12, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot on a Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black screen... Am I missing something or am I using the wrong image? devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img works, but that's the 64bit image and I'd like to stick to 32bit ATM (=omxplayer support) If you use the RPi3+ (not the RPi3) then you'll have to update the firmware manually, otherwise it won't boot. The box says just "Raspberry 3 Model B", /proc/cpuinfo contains Revision a02082 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
Am Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2018 schrieb Joril: > Hi everyone! > > I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot on a > Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black screen... Am I > missing something or am I using the wrong image? > devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img works, but that's the 64bit image > and I'd like to stick to 32bit ATM (=omxplayer support) If you use the RPi3+ (not the RPi3) then you'll have to update the firmware manually, otherwise it won't boot. -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On 05/12/2018 10:02, Rowland Penny wrote: I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot on a Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black screen... Am I missing something or am I using the wrong image? devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img works, but that's the 64bit image and I'd like to stick to 32bit ATM (=omxplayer support) I think you have answered yourself, the rpi2 uses an arm Cortex-A7 CPU and the rpi3 uses an BCM2837 64bit CPU (which is armv8). I see, but the Raspbian Stretch image (armhf) DOES work on this RPI3B, shouldn't the Devuan armhf image work too? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:43:59 +0100 Joril wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot > on a Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black > screen... Am I missing something or am I using the wrong image? > devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img works, but that's the 64bit image > and I'd like to stick to 32bit ATM (=omxplayer support) > I think you have answered yourself, the rpi2 uses an arm Cortex-A7 CPU and the rpi3 uses an BCM2837 64bit CPU (which is armv8). Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan armhf won't boot on Raspberry 3 Model B
Hi everyone! I'm trying to get the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_raspi2 image to boot on a Raspberry 3 Model B, but the only thing I get is a black screen... Am I missing something or am I using the wrong image? devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img works, but that's the 64bit image and I'd like to stick to 32bit ATM (=omxplayer support) Thanks! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
