Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?
Hi, On 25/2/19 9:03, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 06:39:09PM -0600,goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] Also, I see no need to take this off list. As I understand it, accessibility is one of the pillars of devuan. Feel free to ask if you can't hunt down answers to other questions on your own, and I'll do my best to help. Greg Just for completeness, I'll mention the minimal-live isos - https://files.roundr.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/minimal-live/ - which were created specifically for those with accessibility issues with feedback from the speakup community. Just as a further clarification: please consider that minimal-live does not offer any GUI access, only a command-line interface. HND KatolaZ Gnome is not installable in devuan so far, due to the (strong?) dependendency of gnome-core on systemd. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fwd: ifstat.eth0 on Boot
hello all, Bonjour Didier Am 24.02.19 um 08:52 schrieb Didier Kryn: >login to investigate what's happening. > > Didier OK, Thanks, i can (re)boot my machine. more infos comming soon Ate breve! Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:16:08AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, > > > therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. > > > > Uhhhm, no, it doesn't. Gnome works with xfce and mate, though mate > > provides a more accessible experience for orca users than xfce does. > > I'll assume that you meant to say that Orca works with xfce and mate, Good catch. Yes, I did indeed mean to say orca, not gnome. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Best way to manage a 15 hard drive DAS
So I just got a nice 15 disk dual uplink SAS DAS and I am wondering what you guys think the best way is to allocate the disks for backing stuff up and what is a good automated backup option for network backups. Until now I have just done disks one by one never before using LVM but that seems inelegant when dealing with this many disks and I am wondering what to do especially in terms of using luks/crypto in a more efficient manner. I want to be able to say for instance paste a bunch of files to a mount point and have them automatically written to whatever drives have available space in the most speed efficient manner and if I want to remove a drive from the pool simply be able to have the stuff automatically copied to another drive then deleted. Some kind of bit-rot protection would be cool as well. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] visually impaired ise of Devuan.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:16:08AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, > > > therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. > > > > Uhhhm, no, it doesn't. Gnome works with xfce and mate, though mate > > provides a more accessible experience for orca users than xfce does. > > I'll assume that you meant to say that Orca works with xfce and mate, and > thanks - I didn't know that - I had always thought it was tied quite closely > into Gnome, so it's good to know I don't need that environment after all > (which I'm personally not keen on anyway, but would accept it if it gives me > the speech output needed). > > > I'm not yet running an Ascii box with a GUI. However, if the Ascii > > install is anything like Jessie, which I seem to recall it is, then > > you just need to press "s" and when the boot menu comes > > up. This will start a text install with speech. > > In fact it's a standard option on the installer menu, so I can simply select > it from there. > > > The beauty of doing it this way is that it will setup everything for use > > with orca if you choose a desktop during the install. > > Ah, neat, I hadn't realised it would make things easier than installing Orca > later; nice tip. > > > Also note that if you use the accessible install, the installed system > > will have both speakup for the text console installed, as well as orca > > for the GUI. This also includes pulseaudio, which doesn't play nice > > with speakup/espeakup. This is because espeakup expects to access the > > audio hardware through alsa, while by default, speech-dispatcher > > expects to access the hardware through pulseaudio. There are a few > > work arounds, but the simplest is to purge pulseaudio, or at least > > stop it from running at all, and configuring speech-dispatcher to use > > libao through spd-conf(1). You can also do this by configuring things > > in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf, and killing > > speech-dispatcher. If you can, it's best to reboot whatever > > configuration method you used, since there are sometimes problems with > > speech-dispatcher coming up and using the new configuration. I believe > > debian wiki's accessibility page mentions this too, but I could be > > wrong on that. > > > > Also, I see no need to take this off list. As I understand it, > > accessibility is one of the pillars of devuan. Feel free to ask if you > > can't hunt down answers to other questions on your own, and I'll do my > > best to help. > > Okay, thanks very much - I'll give this a go and see what I can end up with. > > The person I'm doing this for is (a) not completely blind, just very visually > impaired, and (b) not planning to use the computer for much more than > document > editing, so the variety of software which needs to be speech-enabled is > pretty > limited. I'm thinking that that's going to make things easier for me. Let us know how it worked and what you did to make it so. I too (and probably many others) have a visually impaired neighbour. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?
On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, > > therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. > > Uhhhm, no, it doesn't. Gnome works with xfce and mate, though mate > provides a more accessible experience for orca users than xfce does. I'll assume that you meant to say that Orca works with xfce and mate, and thanks - I didn't know that - I had always thought it was tied quite closely into Gnome, so it's good to know I don't need that environment after all (which I'm personally not keen on anyway, but would accept it if it gives me the speech output needed). > I'm not yet running an Ascii box with a GUI. However, if the Ascii > install is anything like Jessie, which I seem to recall it is, then > you just need to press "s" and when the boot menu comes > up. This will start a text install with speech. In fact it's a standard option on the installer menu, so I can simply select it from there. > The beauty of doing it this way is that it will setup everything for use > with orca if you choose a desktop during the install. Ah, neat, I hadn't realised it would make things easier than installing Orca later; nice tip. > Also note that if you use the accessible install, the installed system > will have both speakup for the text console installed, as well as orca > for the GUI. This also includes pulseaudio, which doesn't play nice > with speakup/espeakup. This is because espeakup expects to access the > audio hardware through alsa, while by default, speech-dispatcher > expects to access the hardware through pulseaudio. There are a few > work arounds, but the simplest is to purge pulseaudio, or at least > stop it from running at all, and configuring speech-dispatcher to use > libao through spd-conf(1). You can also do this by configuring things > in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf, and killing > speech-dispatcher. If you can, it's best to reboot whatever > configuration method you used, since there are sometimes problems with > speech-dispatcher coming up and using the new configuration. I believe > debian wiki's accessibility page mentions this too, but I could be > wrong on that. > > Also, I see no need to take this off list. As I understand it, > accessibility is one of the pillars of devuan. Feel free to ask if you > can't hunt down answers to other questions on your own, and I'll do my > best to help. Okay, thanks very much - I'll give this a go and see what I can end up with. The person I'm doing this for is (a) not completely blind, just very visually impaired, and (b) not planning to use the computer for much more than document editing, so the variety of software which needs to be speech-enabled is pretty limited. I'm thinking that that's going to make things easier for me. Thanks, Antony. -- If my advice was worth anything, I wouldn't just give it away. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 06:39:09PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] > > > > Also, I see no need to take this off list. As I understand it, > > accessibility is one of the pillars of devuan. Feel free to ask if you > > can't hunt down answers to other questions on your own, and I'll do my > > best to help. > > > > Greg > > Just for completeness, I'll mention the minimal-live isos - > https://files.roundr.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/minimal-live/ - which were > created specifically for those with accessibility issues with feedback from > the speakup community. > Just as a further clarification: please consider that minimal-live does not offer any GUI access, only a command-line interface. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
