Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 15:02:51 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20190405220251.gx15...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > > Killing Devuan would require either five buses hitting five people > > at the same time in five different countries across the globe, or > > three

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > Killing Devuan would require either five buses hitting five people at > the same time in five different countries across the globe, or three > fires hitting three different data centers at exactly the same time. Those buses _are_ clever predators,

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 04:37:31AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > On 6/4/19 12:41 am, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > > I'm not sure then if the bus-factor does apply, but I'm sure none > > of the core developers are the type to cross

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Andrew McGlashan (andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au): > What if Katolaz gets hit by a bus? Ah! A proper scientific question. There is precedent for this: http://web.archive.org/web/2003013913/http://segfault.org/story.phtml?mode=2=38b40d78-087dd360 -- Cheers,There's

[DNG] iso?

2019-04-05 Thread stanz via Dng
Oww man! ceres!!???  salt in my wound... Lol Maybe I'm using the wrong mini iso? but their all dated feb 16, and error again on kernel mods, which goes into 'no disks found'. Someone else posted also...how u get passed that?!?!? I might be repeating myself :)   I grabbed ascii's mini, and its

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 6/4/19 12:41 am, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > I'm not sure then if the bus-factor does apply, but I'm sure none > of the core developers are the type to cross the road without > looking ;-) Sure, but the "bus factor" is not just relating to

Re: [DNG] frustration with browsers.

2019-04-05 Thread chillfan--- via Dng
Indeed there is Icecat that is DRM free. Iceweasel-UXP just covers some more of the criteria of what people would consider less frustrating or is closer to a real fork since they change things at the code level. It would be interesting if there was a version of Icecat based on Iceweasel-UXP.

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 05 Apr 2019 13:41:34 +, chillfan--- wrote in message : > On Friday, April 5, 2019 2:19 PM, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: ... > > There is a different, but also VERY IMPORTANT consideration here. > > > > > What if Katolaz gets hit by a bus? > > > > > Whilst I do appreciate the

Re: [DNG] frustration with browsers.

2019-04-05 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno venerdì 05/04/2019 13:50:03 + chill...@protonmail.com ha scritto: > Might potentially be a solution if anyone did decide to package another > browser to try to solve the problem, since it comes from the hyperbola > project. Another is the GNU/IceCat browser: - IceCat project

Re: [DNG] frustration with browsers.

2019-04-05 Thread chillfan--- via Dng
Might potentially be a solution if anyone did decide to package another browser to try to solve the problem, since it comes from the hyperbola project. They follow a "when it's ready" release cycle afaik which probably means they have patches of their that can be applied, making things a

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread chillfan--- via Dng
It was just more relevant for this discussion to mention Katolaz and his hard work. There are other core developers who are also working hard. I'm not sure then if the bus-factor does apply, but I'm sure none of the core developers are the type to cross the road without looking ;-) Cheers,

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 14:28:20 +0200, info wrote in message : > But i am working in ICT and in construction and the two areas where > you do not joke about are security and safety. ..I _slightly_ disagree: People who screw up on these 2 like the Bush regime, the Obama regime and the Trump regime

Re: [DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-04-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 09:05:15PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi KatolaZ, >> >> KatolaZ writes: >> > > [cut] >> > >> > >> > Hi Olaf, >> > >> > I will rebuild the installer later today. Stay tuned. >> >> Still staying tuned but I guess you were too busy fooling

Re: [DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-04-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Dan, Daniel Reurich writes: > I will kick off a rebuild of debian-installer now. Thanks! > Dan > > > On 04/04/19 01:46, KatolaZ wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 09:05:15PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> Hi KatolaZ, >>> >>> KatolaZ writes: >>> >> >> [cut] Hi Olaf,

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 5/4/19 11:28 pm, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 05-04-19 11:16, Simon Hobson wrote: >> chillfan wrote: >> >>> Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I >>> didn't realise he was doing all this even. >> I

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 05-04-19 11:16, Simon Hobson wrote: > chillfan wrote: > >> Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I didn't >> realise he was doing all this even. > I didn't either. > So another +1 for Katolaz and all the work he's doing. And everyone else of > course, but I think it's a

Re: [DNG] frustration with browsers.

2019-04-05 Thread chillfan--- via Dng
The problems as I see them are: Browsers either have DRM or they are bloated with features some don't expect to be there and are no modularity at all. Sometimes you can disable a feature but not remove it. The alternatives are often not packaged by Debian, so if they don't have it then we'd

[DNG] frustration with browsers.

2019-04-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:06:14AM +, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > > There are many of us frustrated with web browsers and the web in general, Is there anything that can be done about this? Browsers seem to be an all-or-nothing kind of nonmodularity. Yet they should have components that

Re: [DNG] Forced removal of 481 packages on ceres dist-upgrade

2019-04-05 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 11:24:42PM +0100, Nicola Orrù via Dng wrote: >Hi, all, >My first post to this list! >For the last couple of days I've been trying to keep up-to date on >Ceres, which I do quite regularly. >But now, If I run the usual >sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade >

Re: [DNG] Forced removal of 481 packages on ceres dist-upgrade

2019-04-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
hey, running unstable you can come across situations like this, many times. personally i use safer `apt upgrade ` in ceres/unstable. mainly, cause i need the system running :) as for this current situation, i don't have such an issue with ceres. can you paste someplace, a list of upgrades? (`apt

Re: [DNG] The 1st Devuan conference kicks off tomorrow afternoon!

2019-04-05 Thread mett
On 2019年4月5日 4:10:53 JST, Jaromil wrote: >On Thu, 04 Apr 2019, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> I'm homesick already. I can't be there. > >you will be missed Hendrik, but I believe this is just one of many to >come and consider this a bootstrap and some people involved already >announced the will to

[DNG] Forced removal of 481 packages on ceres dist-upgrade

2019-04-05 Thread Nicola Orrù via Dng
Hi, all, My first post to this list! For the last couple of days I've been trying to keep up-to date on Ceres, which I do quite regularly. But now, If I run the usual sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade I get the following alert: WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. This

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Simon Hobson
chillfan wrote: > Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I didn't realise > he was doing all this even. I didn't either. So another +1 for Katolaz and all the work he's doing. And everyone else of course, but I think it's a bit unfair for people to be calling for heads on

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread chillfan--- via Dng
Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I didn't realise he was doing all this even. There shouldn't be any sore feelings over this or anything personal. He really had me there for a moment but gopher and browser complaints were good clues something isn't quite right ;)