[DNG] New VPN instructions using tinc

2019-05-24 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I just posted a “Hello World” instruction set for creating a VPN (Virtual Private Network) with the tinc VPN tool. Tinc is one of the simplest VPN tools: Simple enough that it has nor needs a GUI design tool. Make a few directories, edit a few config files, and you have a VPN. These

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread dev via Dng
Hi Martin, Perhaps Proxmox could ship running Devuan one day? *wink,nudge* ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] wireless bobbles (was: system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread Rick Moen
Rob is Good People. (So is Sarah.) I have no idea if either or both of them is on Dng. - Forwarded message from Rob Landley - Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 18:44:46 -0500 From: Rob Landley To: Sarah Newman , Rick Moen , sv...@lists.svlug.org Subject: Re: [svlug] (forw) [DNG] Linux

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread Rick Moen
[correcting unexplained departure into offlist personal mail, by forwarding back onlist.] Quoting John Hughes (j...@atlantech.com): > So, what we learn from this exercise is that on Unix derived systems root can > crash the system, an unexpected result, no? If my system crashed four of the

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Martin Steigerwald (mar...@lichtvoll.de): [...] > While sending SIGKILL to Systemd did not have any effect, sending SIGILL > – illegal instruction – to it brought the machine to an halt. I > reproduced it with > > while true; do kill -ILL 1 ; echo -n "." ; sleep 0.5 ; done [...] OMG,

[DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Today in a Linux training a participant attempted to bring down Debian workstation with Systemd by sending signals to PID 1 as I invited them to try to bring down PID 1 while thinking for myself that this would not be possible from my past experiences about trying to bring down PID 1 –

[DNG] systemd Clocks In At More Than 1.2 Million Lines

2019-05-24 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng
https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Systemd-1.2-Million I will write you a whole operating system with such a number of code lines! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 5/23/19 7:52 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): Radicale does look good. The one thing I haven't found is sync with Google calendar. It's mentioned over and over that Google doesn't talk CalDAV. Talk about "not doing evil." They USED to talk CalDAV. 

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > Hi Steve, list, All: OH HAI! > On more than one occasion I've found that some acronym "flashers" are > just wildly flapping arms and waving hands in thin air trying to make an > impresssion rather than "knowledgeable experts". Anyone

Re: [DNG] email clients: was Where to reply for Steve Litt

2019-05-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > And why are you using past tense? Because, at that point, I was talking about the 1980s? > Such setup works just as well today as it did in the past. [/me thumps server.] Yes, I can confirm this. > Uh? The whole point of IMAP is that the mail

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, viverna writes: > il devuanizzato Hendrik Boom il 23-05-19 16:44:00 ha > scritto: >> I'm looking for software to handle appointment calendars, contact >> lists, and todo lists. > Org mode: > https://orgmode.org/ Using that myself in combination with mu4e to handle my maildirs. These are

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, list, Steve Litt writes: > On Thu, 23 May 2019 12:15:06 -0700 > Rick Moen wrote: > >> Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org): >> >> > I could be wrong, but based on the context of his question: >> > >> > AMI = Amazon Machine Image >> >> I know Josef, and, yes, that's exactly

Re: [DNG] email clients: was Where to reply for Steve Litt

2019-05-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 06:42:02PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Um, dunno, sorry. I don't do emacs. (I'm a sysadmin, not a coder. > C-x C-c is just about all the emacs I know -- the commands to get the > hell out.) Switch to another session, kill -9. This has the upside of working with other

Re: [DNG] email clients: was Where to reply for Steve Litt

2019-05-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 08:15:22PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Can GNUS be used as a window into a local multilevel many-mailboxed > Dovecot IMAPserver? Same question with mutt: I haven't gotten it to > happen, correctly, all the time. > IMAP support in mutt works just fine. There were

Re: [DNG] Where to reply for Steve Litt

2019-05-24 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Il giorno giovedì 23/05/2019 20:07:17 -0400 Steve Litt ha scritto: > On Thu, 23 May 2019 15:21:30 -0700 > Rick Moen wrote: > > [snip] > > My claws-mail has a reply-to-list, which *usually* does the right thing My cent in this regard... At the ML side: - dng ML user configuration

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-24 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/23/19 5:44 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Any ideas? using thunderbird/lightning with tbsync/enigmail. all connected to private nextcloud instance for calendar, tasks, contacts, and even using filelink regularly. another email client/suite i tried lately and was impressed that everything "just

Re: [DNG] email clients: was Where to reply for Steve Litt

2019-05-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.05.19 18:42, Rick Moen wrote: > And yes, I've heard many times that mbox is terrible and that I should > use Maildir instead because it's much better for NFS file locking and > for IMAP access. But: no NFS here, no IMAP here. Thus, no NFS > problems and no IMAP problems. > > The

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.05.19 17:12, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 23 May 2019 10:44:00 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I'm looking for software to handle appointment calendars, contact > > lists, and todo lists. > > VimOutliner is how you handle todo lists. It even has branch-wide > completion statistics.