Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:41 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > On 2019-09-06 07:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >>> Dear Dev1ers, >>> Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity >>> - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! >>> There have been reports that the migration process from Debian Buster to >>> Devuan Beowulf is not as straight-forward as Wheezy/Jessie to Jessie and/or >>> Stretch to ASCII. If we are to offer migration as an "official" option, we >>> will need to document specific issues and provide solutions in our >>> documentation. >>> So . . . please roll up your sleeves, give it a try and let us know if you >>> were able to migrate successfully from Buster to Beowulf. What issues did >>> you have? How did you work around them? Are there any blockers? >> I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. >> I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. >> Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover >> problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. >> -- hendrik > > Yes. Please do! If you can spare the time, would also be helpful to know if > the basics work after the migration. Thanks. > > golinux I made a Buster droplet with digitalocean, and then upgraded it to Beowulf, other than the need to download devuan-keyring by hand, it was painless. It has no desktop software, but apache, mariadb, and php-fpm work fine. The process was: update the sources.list and point it to devuan beowulf download and install devuan-keyring apt-get install sysvinit-core reboot apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get purge systemd apt-get purge unscd #this might be digitalocean´s choice, but it gives me trouble adding users and groups. I think I rebooted another time after this, and that was it. -- Héctor González ca...@genac.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)
On 07/09/19 at 01:58, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 07/09/19 at 00:34, fsmithred via Dng wrote: >> On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in buster. >>> Really? I'm on beowulf now, and I have: >>> >>> ii udisks2 2.8.1-4 amd64 D-Bus service to access and >>> manipulate storage devices >>> >>> Same as Debian 10 (buster): >>> >> >> Where did you get it? That version is not in devuan. I'm still running >> the ascii version in my beowulf, because the beowulf/ceres version is >> older. >> > [alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ apt-cache policy udisks2 > udisks2: > Installed: 2.8.1-4 > Candidate: 2.8.1-4 > Version table: > *** 2.8.1-4 100 > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 2.1.3-5+devuan2 500 > 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages > 500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages > [alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ > > > Greetings, > > > Alessandro Which means the package I have does come from Debian, like most (all?) Devuan packages that did not need to be hacked to take systemd out of it. [alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ grep -iR debian /etc/apt/sources.list* [alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ Bye, -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)
On 07/09/19 at 00:34, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: >>> In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on >>> libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) >>> >>> The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in >>> buster. >> >> Really? I'm on beowulf now, and I have: >> >> ii udisks2 2.8.1-4 amd64 D-Bus service to access and >> manipulate storage devices >> >> Same as Debian 10 (buster): >> > > > Where did you get it? That version is not in devuan. I'm still running > the ascii version in my beowulf, because the beowulf/ceres version is > older. > [alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ apt-cache policy udisks2 udisks2: Installed: 2.8.1-4 Candidate: 2.8.1-4 Version table: *** 2.8.1-4 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.1.3-5+devuan2 500 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages 500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages [alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ Greetings, Alessandro -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
> I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. > > The basic process is: > > 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove libnss-systemd >and reboot. > 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). > 3) change apt sources from buster to beowulf. > 4) apt update. > 4) apt full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade. Should you also be installing the devuan-baseconf package? Or does that get pulled in automatically during the transition? —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 07/09/19 07:30, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> Dear Dev1ers, >> >> Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity >> - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! > > I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. > > The basic process is: > > 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove > libnss-systemd > and reboot. > 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). > 3) change apt sources from buster to beowulf. > 4) apt update. > 4) apt full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade. > > The process is not too bad, particularly if you have a very basic > install. However, the main issue is step 1) if you have anything desktoppy > installed (lightdm, xfce). Debian's libpam-systemd unhelpfully depends on > systemd-sysv which in turn conflicts with sysvinit-core. So, by installing > sysvinit-core the whole chain systemd-sysv -> libpam-systemd -> policykit -> > desktop gets more or less removed. Of course it could all be reinstalled > later, > but that is understandably probably too much for most users. But it should use libpam-elogind. Perhaps we need to ban libpam-systemd to force the use of libpam-elogind instead. The only thing is we need to check if their is a dep version check on libpam-systemd in which case we'd also need to set the version for the "Provides: libpam-systemd" also. > > I have already submitted #935304 which is being ignored and may well not be > fixed in bullseye. Sigh! > > In the report I point out that libpam-systemd depending on systemd-sysv > doesn't mean > systemd will always be PID 1, which is (I think) the intention of it. > Lets see if their is a response. If there is nothing in a week I may prod the DPL again. He was very impressed with your professionalism in the case of justifying the elogind bug. > So, I am working on a transitional package that could help in devuan to smooth > this out and not require the whole GUI to be removed and reinstalled. The > basic > idea is that the transitional package Provides systemd-sysv and Depends > sysvinit-core. Installing it temporarily will satisfy libpam-systemd whilst > the > system is rebooted without having to uninstall half of the system. > I don't think a transitional package is required. Thanks for testing this, Daniel. -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)
On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in buster. Really? I'm on beowulf now, and I have: ii udisks2 2.8.1-4 amd64 D-Bus service to access and manipulate storage devices Same as Debian 10 (buster): Where did you get it? That version is not in devuan. I'm still running the ascii version in my beowulf, because the beowulf/ceres version is older. udisks2: Installed: 2.1.8-1+devuan2 Candidate: 2.1.8-1+devuan2 Version table: 2.8.1-4 10 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian buster/main amd64 Packages *** 2.1.8-1+devuan2 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.1.3-5+devuan2 500 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages 50 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages I do have the buster version in one beowulf install, but I got that from outside of devuan. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)
On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on > libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) > > The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in > buster. Really? I'm on beowulf now, and I have: ii udisks2 2.8.1-4 amd64 D-Bus service to access and manipulate storage devices Same as Debian 10 (buster): https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages udisks2 (2.8.1-4) D-Bus service to access and manipulate storage devices Latest version upstream is 2.8.4, released in Jul 22, 2019: https://github.com/storaged-project/udisks/releases 2.8.1 was released in Sep 26, 2018. > The version in buster depends on libpam-systemd OR libpam-elogind. > (Also libsystemd0 OR libelogind0) Since we have libpam-elogind and > libelogind0 in the repos, we don't really need to devuanize udisks2 > anymore. Do we? > > Does anyone use udisks2 who doesn't want libpam-elogind or libelogind0 > with it? I have them both, and I have nothing against them. Bye, Alessandro -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 2019-09-06 14:30, Mark Hindley wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Dear Dev1ers, Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. The basic process is: 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove libnss-systemd and reboot. 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). 3) change apt sources from buster to beowulf. 4) apt update. 4) apt full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade. The process is not too bad, particularly if you have a very basic install. However, the main issue is step 1) if you have anything desktoppy installed (lightdm, xfce). Debian's libpam-systemd unhelpfully depends on systemd-sysv which in turn conflicts with sysvinit-core. So, by installing sysvinit-core the whole chain systemd-sysv -> libpam-systemd -> policykit -> desktop gets more or less removed. Of course it could all be reinstalled later, but that is understandably probably too much for most users. I have already submitted #935304 which is being ignored and may well not be fixed in bullseye. Sigh! In the report I point out that libpam-systemd depending on systemd-sysv doesn't mean systemd will always be PID 1, which is (I think) the intention of it. So, I am working on a transitional package that could help in devuan to smooth this out and not require the whole GUI to be removed and reinstalled. The basic idea is that the transitional package Provides systemd-sysv and Depends sysvinit-core. Installing it temporarily will satisfy libpam-systemd whilst the system is rebooted without having to uninstall half of the system. Thoughts? Mark Thanks Mark. This is very helpful. We will need to have a solution for a migration to Beowulf to be approved. So please continue to experiment with graceful ways around the current systemd-sysv hiccup. FYI, I have also posted your response to the dev1galaxy thread here (I added a link to #935304): https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17709#p17709 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity > - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. The basic process is: 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove libnss-systemd and reboot. 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). 3) change apt sources from buster to beowulf. 4) apt update. 4) apt full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade. The process is not too bad, particularly if you have a very basic install. However, the main issue is step 1) if you have anything desktoppy installed (lightdm, xfce). Debian's libpam-systemd unhelpfully depends on systemd-sysv which in turn conflicts with sysvinit-core. So, by installing sysvinit-core the whole chain systemd-sysv -> libpam-systemd -> policykit -> desktop gets more or less removed. Of course it could all be reinstalled later, but that is understandably probably too much for most users. I have already submitted #935304 which is being ignored and may well not be fixed in bullseye. Sigh! In the report I point out that libpam-systemd depending on systemd-sysv doesn't mean systemd will always be PID 1, which is (I think) the intention of it. So, I am working on a transitional package that could help in devuan to smooth this out and not require the whole GUI to be removed and reinstalled. The basic idea is that the transitional package Provides systemd-sysv and Depends sysvinit-core. Installing it temporarily will satisfy libpam-systemd whilst the system is rebooted without having to uninstall half of the system. Thoughts? Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 2019-09-06 07:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Dear Dev1ers, Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! There have been reports that the migration process from Debian Buster to Devuan Beowulf is not as straight-forward as Wheezy/Jessie to Jessie and/or Stretch to ASCII. If we are to offer migration as an "official" option, we will need to document specific issues and provide solutions in our documentation. So . . . please roll up your sleeves, give it a try and let us know if you were able to migrate successfully from Buster to Beowulf. What issues did you have? How did you work around them? Are there any blockers? I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. -- hendrik Yes. Please do! If you can spare the time, would also be helpful to know if the basics work after the migration. Thanks. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 2019-09-06 02:55, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: Dear Dev1ers, [cut] Thanks for your feedback! What if this has already be done and worked without problems? Nik It would be helpful to know the process you used to do the migration and also whether it was with a full-blown DE or a WM. Thanks. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 9/6/19 9:05 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. ... Are there instructions already? Or is it the usual change the apt-sources, update, and upgrade? Instructions for migrating to ascii should be a good outline. https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii Nixer posted on the forum about migrating buster to beowulf: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2796 I'm not going to list any steps until I try it again. When I did it a few months ago, it was hell. I didn't do it exactly the way nixer described. Your input (and anyone else's) will be used to update the official instructions. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 9/6/19 9:34 AM, fsmithred wrote: On 9/6/19 9:05 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. Yes, please. And maybe tee the output to a log file in case you get something "interesting". OK. But I should maybe use the script command. Are there instructions already? Or is it the usual change the apt-sources, update, and upgrade? and how should I point to the beowulf repositories? I've noticed devuan repositories in different locations before, and I'm not entirely sure the ones I'm using on my pure-devuan beowulf are the current official ones. I've upgraded Refracta-9 (ascii, xfce, without metapackages) with the follwing: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main apt update apt-get dist-upgrade reboot Notes: - I have linux-image-amd64 installed, so I got the new kernel automatically. Make sure you get 4.19-whatever. - There's no beowulf-updates or beowulf-backports yet. Leave those lines commented out if you have them. - I used "apt" to update for less typing; I used "apt-get" out of habit. If you get stuck with conficts, try 'aptitude -s full-upgrade' to see if it offers a better solution. You could also do a plain upgrade before the dist-upgrade, but it may not be necessary. - I already know that I contradicted myself, thanks. (In case someone wanted to point out that linux-image-amd64 is a metapackage.) fsmithred * Need More Coffee * Those are very nice instructions I wrote, but they're for devuan upgrade, not migration from beowulf. I'll try again after another cup. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 9/6/19 9:05 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. Yes, please. And maybe tee the output to a log file in case you get something "interesting". OK. But I should maybe use the script command. Are there instructions already? Or is it the usual change the apt-sources, update, and upgrade? and how should I point to the beowulf repositories? I've noticed devuan repositories in different locations before, and I'm not entirely sure the ones I'm using on my pure-devuan beowulf are the current official ones. I've upgraded Refracta-9 (ascii, xfce, without metapackages) with the follwing: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main apt update apt-get dist-upgrade reboot Notes: - I have linux-image-amd64 installed, so I got the new kernel automatically. Make sure you get 4.19-whatever. - There's no beowulf-updates or beowulf-backports yet. Leave those lines commented out if you have them. - I used "apt" to update for less typing; I used "apt-get" out of habit. If you get stuck with conficts, try 'aptitude -s full-upgrade' to see if it offers a better solution. You could also do a plain upgrade before the dist-upgrade, but it may not be necessary. - I already know that I contradicted myself, thanks. (In case someone wanted to point out that linux-image-amd64 is a metapackage.) fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)
In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in buster. The version in buster depends on libpam-systemd OR libpam-elogind. (Also libsystemd0 OR libelogind0) Since we have libpam-elogind and libelogind0 in the repos, we don't really need to devuanize udisks2 anymore. Do we? Does anyone use udisks2 who doesn't want libpam-elogind or libelogind0 with it? fsmithred (looking to reduce the work load) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. > > I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. > > Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover > > problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. > > > > Yes, please. And maybe tee the output to a log file in case you get > something "interesting". OK. But I should maybe use the script command. Are there instructions already? Or is it the usual change the apt-sources, update, and upgrade? and how should I point to the beowulf repositories? I've noticed devuan repositories in different locations before, and I'm not entirely sure the ones I'm using on my pure-devuan beowulf are the current official ones. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. Yes, please. And maybe tee the output to a log file in case you get something "interesting". Thanks, fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity > - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! > > There have been reports that the migration process from Debian Buster to > Devuan Beowulf is not as straight-forward as Wheezy/Jessie to Jessie and/or > Stretch to ASCII. If we are to offer migration as an "official" option, we > will need to document specific issues and provide solutions in our > documentation. > > So . . . please roll up your sleeves, give it a try and let us know if you > were able to migrate successfully from Buster to Beowulf. What issues did > you have? How did you work around them? Are there any blockers? I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:55:26AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 > goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > > Dear Dev1ers, > > > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an > > opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be > > released! > > > > There have been reports that the migration process from Debian Buster to > > Devuan Beowulf is not as straight-forward as Wheezy/Jessie to Jessie > > and/or Stretch to ASCII. If we are to offer migration as an "official" > > option, we will need to document specific issues and provide solutions > > in our documentation. > > > > So . . . please roll up your sleeves, give it a try and let us know if > > you were able to migrate successfully from Buster to Beowulf. What > > issues did you have? How did you work around them? Are there any > > blockers? > > > > Thanks for your feedback! > > What if this has already be done and worked without problems? Then it would be useful to know it was done and that there were no problems. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an > opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be > released! > > There have been reports that the migration process from Debian Buster to > Devuan Beowulf is not as straight-forward as Wheezy/Jessie to Jessie > and/or Stretch to ASCII. If we are to offer migration as an "official" > option, we will need to document specific issues and provide solutions > in our documentation. > > So . . . please roll up your sleeves, give it a try and let us know if > you were able to migrate successfully from Buster to Beowulf. What > issues did you have? How did you work around them? Are there any > blockers? > > Thanks for your feedback! What if this has already be done and worked without problems? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
