Re: [DNG] Which DE?
Am 2020-03-01 23:07, schrieb aitor: My vote is for tint2. I also vote for openbox with tint2. if you don't want to tediously configure it yourself, install Bunsenlabs https://www.bunsenlabs.org/ and then migrate it to Devuan. Bunsenlabs has a nice theme and helper scripts for the openbox menu. It saves you a lot of work. Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] libnetaid-0.1
Hi again,
On 1/3/20 22:36, aitor wrote:
Hi all,
The shared library of simple-netaid is ready for use.
Here you are the packages for devuan beowulf in amd64:
http://gnuinos.org/libnetaid/
Install all the packages and write the following simple program:
___
#include
int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
print_active_wifis(argv[1]);
return 0;
}
___
You can build it linking the shared library and the headers with the
following flags:
$ gcc main.c -o main -lnetaid
-I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/simple-netaid
Maybe first of all you will need to update the ld cache via:
$ sudo ldconfig
Now, if you run the binary:
$ sudo ./main wlan0
you will get all the available active wifis (replace wlan0 by your
.
The above program is a very simple example, but shortly i will
document the usage
of this library and some functions like, for example:
bool is_plugged(const char *device);
void show_devices();
void interface_up(const char *device);
void interface_down(const char *device);
void ifup(const char *device);
void ifdown(const char *device);
void print_active_wifis(const char *device);
void wired_connection(const char *device);
void wireless_connection(const char *device, const char *essid, const
char *password);
void show_network_connection();
void disconnect(const char *device);
etc...
Cheers,
Aitor.
I fixed a bug related with the wireless_connection and uploaded the new
packages.
You can test this function building the following code:
__
#include
int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
wireless_connection(argv[1], argv[2], argv[3]);
return 0;
}
___
and running:
$ sudo ./main wlan0
It's working for me without failures.
Cheers,
Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > Just great! So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/mozilla_turns_on_dns_over_https_by_default_for_usa/ > > Rick Moen? Anyone? It's been obviously coming (for newer Firefox versions) for quite some time. Since my _personal_ view is that Firefox (Release Edition and Beta) went unacceptably off the rails starting with Firefox 48 on 2016-08-02 (and similar damage to Firefox ESR then being only a matter of time), I see this as unfortunate but as just another hammer in the coffin. As noted in TheReg's article (and linked Mozilla blog item), the new DoH default in Firefox 73.0.1 can be simply unchecked somewhere in the program's Settings (for now). Also, for those who care about new Firefox versions but haven't read the coverage, it should be noted that the new default is (claimed to be) set only in downloadable binary versions of the browser offered at mozilla.org to USA users, not to those elsewhere in the world. The direct effect on Linux users would be only on distros that do no meaningful curating and correcion of Mozilla, Inc.'s sometimes brainless defaults in their distro packages. (I really have no idea if the Debian distro package of Firefox Release Edition suffers this brain damage, having lost interest, as I said, some years back. Perhaps someone else here knows. (Seriously, I really, really wish either Debian or someone else would gather together as much as possible of the 'No, we don't accept mandatory extension signing and are not thrilled about losing XUL/XPCOM without a lot better planning' consensus under one roof under revived brand identity 'Iceweasel'. Seems like an obvious solution, to me -- and, to correct myself just a bit, in a way, it's almost-sorta happened: the several little scattershot Firefox pre-57 forks include Pale Moon, Basilisk, Waterfox, Iceweasel-UXP, Iceape-UXP, and Borealis Navigator. For those who are unfamiliar with Iceweasel-UXP, I recommend reading their lucid and brief explanation: https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:project:iceweasel-uxp (But, seriously, IMO they should call it 'Iceweasel', which is peculiar enough without the suffix, but at least has a history.) -- Cheers, "Why doesn't anyone invite copyeditors to parties, Rick Moen when we're such cool people out with whom to hang?" r...@linuxmafia.com-- @laureneoneal (Lauren O'Neal) McQ! (4x80) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US
On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 05:08:28PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Just great! So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/mozilla_turns_on_dns_over_https_by_default_for_usa/ There was a thread on (IIRC) debian-devel about this a while ago, with a near-consensus that, while good for a typical insecure Windows user, DoH by default is inappropriate for Debian. I thus assume it won't be on in the packaging. > I am quite happy running unbound locally thanks to Rick and Centurion_Dan > etc. And having unbound by default might be a good default. I just don't have enough experience with hotel/phone/etc networks which block direct DNS to know what problems could be. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ in the beginning was the boot and root floppies and they were good. ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ -- on #linux-sunxi ⠈⠳⣄ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US
Just great! So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/mozilla_turns_on_dns_over_https_by_default_for_usa/ Rick Moen? Anyone? I am quite happy running unbound locally thanks to Rick and Centurion_Dan etc. Thoughts? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 23:07:33 +0100 aitor wrote: > On 1/3/20 11:56, spiralofhope wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 04:12:07 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a > >> panel > > My vote is for fbpanel or lxpanel. > My vote is for tint2. Wow, it's been almost 11 years since I've checked it out. It's come a long way. A big +1 on this; it'll do solid GUI config and easy multi-monitor support. I've got things set up with lxpanel how I like, but tint2 will be my alternative. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On 1/3/20 11:56, spiralofhope wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 04:12:07 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a panel My vote is for fbpanel or lxpanel. My vote is for tint2. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] libnetaid-0.1
Hi all,
The shared library of simple-netaid is ready for use.
Here you are the packages for devuan beowulf in amd64:
http://gnuinos.org/libnetaid/
Install all the packages and write the following simple program:
___
#include
int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
print_active_wifis(argv[1]);
return 0;
}
___
You can build it linking the shared library and the headers with the
following flags:
$ gcc main.c -o main -lnetaid -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/simple-netaid
Maybe first of all you will need to update the ld cache via:
$ sudo ldconfig
Now, if you run the binary:
$ sudo ./main wlan0
you will get all the available active wifis (replace wlan0 by your
.
The above program is a very simple example, but shortly i will document
the usage
of this library and some functions like, for example:
bool is_plugged(const char *device);
void show_devices();
void interface_up(const char *device);
void interface_down(const char *device);
void ifup(const char *device);
void ifdown(const char *device);
void print_active_wifis(const char *device);
void wired_connection(const char *device);
void wireless_connection(const char *device, const char *essid, const
char *password);
void show_network_connection();
void disconnect(const char *device);
etc...
Cheers,
Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Which DE?
il devuanizzato Steve Litt il 01-03-20 10:13:59 ha
scritto:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 21:04:10 +0100
viverna wrote:
il devuanizzato al3xu5 / dotcommon il
25-02-20 16:29:58 ha scritto:
>So what you suggest should be the first choice to bet on?
LXDE+openbox for me or openbox only.
I concur. If you like them, you'll like them even better by simply
incorporating Suckless Tools' dmenu via hotkey.
Yes, already done!
And while there are, I enabled shortcut with:
- scrot
- root-menu openbox in LXDE
- numeric keypad to move/resize windows
- semi tiling
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Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 04:12:07 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a > panel My vote is for fbpanel or lxpanel. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:29:58 +0100 al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Hi all > > I am using Devuan (2.1) + MATE DE since 08/2016... > Now I wish to change DE but I am in doubt: XFCE or LXDE or LXQt??? > > Please, based on your experience and knowledge of Devuan and DEs, can > you help me in choosing (avoiding me to invest too much time doing > long experiments)? al3xu5, Assuming you have excellent access to both, are you more of a keyboard guy or a mouse guy? Can you type faster than 30 wpm, and do you know the keyboard without looking? The answers to these questions go a long way to selecting the proper WM/DE. SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 21:04:10 +0100 viverna wrote: > il devuanizzato al3xu5 / dotcommon il > 25-02-20 16:29:58 ha scritto: > >So what you suggest should be the first choice to bet on? > LXDE+openbox for me or openbox only. > I concur. If you like them, you'll like them even better by simply incorporating Suckless Tools' dmenu via hotkey. SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 13:58:29 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 04:29:58PM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I am using Devuan (2.1) + MATE DE since 08/2016... > > Now I wish to change DE but I am in doubt: XFCE or LXDE or LXQt??? > > I've used XFCE and LXQt. I hapen to be using LXQt now. I'm happy > with either. I'm also happy with Icewm. LXDE is wonderful. LXQt is great once you get it set up right, and I have some content on how to do that on Troubleshooters.Com. IceWM is lighter weight than either of those, it's wonderful in every respect except one: Its menu system sucks. If I were to seriously use IceWM, I'd incorporate Suckless Tools' dmenu to start programs, and perhaps my UMENU2 to handle other menuing situations. Note that I consider dmenu a great addition to any WM/DE, but with IceWM it's crucial. By installing LXDE, you're also installing OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a panel (The thing Bill Gates called a status bar). Once again, with OpenBox dmenu is vital. I'm not a fan of XFCE. It's kind of bloaty, and my experience on Linux (but not on OpenBSD), is that it's a little buggy. Quite useable, but it sometimes lets me down. There's a whole different genre called Tiling WM/DEs, but I assume because you speak of LXDE, LXQt and XFCE, those wouldn't interest you. Troubleshooters.Com has several articles on how to incorporate dmenu into almost any WM/DE. You only need to learn dmenu once, and then you can use it on everything. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
