[DNG] OT: Re: Devuan 3.1 media coverage
Am 19. Februar 2021 00:26:41 MEZ schrieb Florian Zieboll via Dng : > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:54 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng > > wrote: > > > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de > > > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > > > > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 > > > > Didn't get past the cookie warning. My German wasn't good enough > > to figure out the weaselwording. So I couldn't accept without > > understanding what I was accepting. > > > Let me yandex this for you ;-) Sorry, I probably should have changed the subject to "troll trolling troll", lol... BTW, as this is are already quite off topic: I just finished the second three-of-six-parts-session of Adam Curtis's new documentary "Can't get you out of my head" and want to recommend it to everybody. Although I am not sure if I want to agree with Curtis's simplified psychology of the three superpowers' rulers, every single minute has been worth watching it: || Can’t Get You Out of My Head: An Emotional History of the Modern || World is a six-part series that explores how modern society has || arrived to the strange place it is today. The series traverses || themes of love, power, money, corruption, the ghosts of empire, the || history of China, opium and opioids, the strange roots of modern || conspiracy theories, and the history of Artificial Intelligence and || surveillance. The series deals with the rise of individualism and || populism throughout history, and the failures of a wide range of || resistance movements throughout time and various countries, || pointing to how revolution has been subsumed in various ways by || spectacle and culture, because of the way power has been forgotten || or given away. https://thoughtmaybe.com/cant-get-you-out-of-my-head/ libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
Hendrik Boom - 18.02.21, 22:23:54 CET: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de > > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 > > Didn't get past the cookie warning. My German wasn't good enough to > figure out the weaselwording. So I couldn't accept without > understanding what I was accepting. uBlock Origin and/or uMatrix is your friend. I do not see those cookie warnings anywhere anymore :) Best, -- Martin ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:54 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng > wrote: > > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de > > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 > > Didn't get past the cookie warning. My German wasn't good enough to > figure out the weaselwording. So I couldn't accept without > understanding what I was accepting. Browse in a private window and when you are finished, close down the private window and the cookies are gone.that is how I deal with a number of escalating nag-ware sites ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:54 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng > wrote: > > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de > > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 > > Didn't get past the cookie warning. My German wasn't good enough to > figure out the weaselwording. So I couldn't accept without > understanding what I was accepting. Let me yandex this for you ;-) || How do you want to use heise online? || || With advertising and cookies || || I agree to the use of cookies for web analysis and personalized || advertising (tracking). Details can be found in the Privacy Manager || and in our privacy policy. || || [Accept] || || Your consent can be revoked at any time via the data protection || link at the end of each page. || || In Pur subscription || || Use heise.de without tracking, external banner and video || advertising as a subscriber to our magazines or from heise+ for € || 1.95 / month, otherwise for € 4.95 / month. || || [Subscribe now] || || You already have a Pur subscription? || || [Register now] || || For use with advertising and cookies: We and our partners use || cookies to optimise and continuously improve our websites for you, || as well as for displaying news, articles and ads. By clicking the || "Accept" button, you consent to this processing of the data stored || on your device, such as personal identifiers or IP addresses, for || these processing purposes. In addition, you agree to acc. Art. 49 || Para. 1 GDPR that providers outside the EU, such as the USA, also || process your data. In this case, it is possible that the || transmitted data will be processed by local authorities. || || Processing purposes || || For the processing purposes displayed to you, cookies, device || identifiers or other information may be stored or retrieved on your || device. || || Ads and content can be personalized based on a profile. More data || can be added to better personalize ads and content. The Performance || of Ads and content, can be measured. Insights about target groups || that have viewed the ads and content can be derived. Data can be || used to build or improve usability, systems and software. || || [Masthead] || || [Privacy] || || [Contact] You're welcome! Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 01:41:52PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de (also home > of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 Didn't get past the cookie warning. My German wasn't good enough to figure out the weaselwording. So I couldn't accept without understanding what I was accepting. -- hendrik > > libre Grüße, > Florian > > > -- > > [message sent otg] > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Assigning a specific subnet and address to a Devuan Beowulf Qemu guest
On Thu, 2021-02-18 at 05:30 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > 1) Is the following /etc/network/interfaces on the guest, or on > thehost? > 2) If on the guest, do I need to have the "gateway" part of the > br0iface be an address *other* than the gateway the host and rest of > theLAN uses? > 3) Is a TAP needed anywhere? Do I need to make provisions for it > (andif so, where) > 4) If the TAP is needed, do I have to make , or does the guest make > theTAP and set it up? > > > auto loiface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network interfaceauto eth0 > > #make sure we don't get addresses on our raw deviceiface eth0 inet > > manualiface eth0 inet6 manual > > #set up bridge and give it a static ipauto br0iface br0 inet > > static address 192.168.1.2 netmask > > 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast > > 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 bridge_ports > > eth0 bridge_stp off bridge_fd 0 > > bridge_maxwait 0 dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 > > #allow autoconf for ipv6iface br0 inet6 auto accept_ra > > 1Once that is correctly configured, you should beable to use the > > bridge on new VM deployments with: > > virt-install --network bridge=br0 [...] > > That last line looks like you're not using TAP at all. Is that true? > What goes between the square brackets? > Thanks, > SteveT I'm sorry for the confusion. That was not the guide I used. I did find the guide I used. It seems pretty straight forward, and I believe it clears up all the confusion and questions caused by my previous email. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/sect.virtualization.en.html#sect.lxc.network 12.2.2.2. Network Configuration The goal of installing LXC is to set up virtual machines; while we could, of course, keep them isolated from the network, and only communicate with them via the filesystem, most use cases involve giving at least minimal network access to the containers. In the typical case, each container will get a virtual network interface, connected to the real network through a bridge. This virtual interface can be plugged either directly onto the host's physical network interface (in which case the container is directly on the network), or onto another virtual interface defined on the host (and the host can then filter or route traffic). In both cases, the bridge-utils package will be required. The simple case is just a matter of editing /etc/network/interfaces, moving the configuration for the physical interface (for instance, eth0) to a bridge interface (usually br0), and configuring the link between them. For instance, if the network interface configuration file initially contains entries such as the following: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp They should be disabled and replaced with the following: #auto eth0 #iface eth0 inet dhcp auto br0 iface br0 inet dhcp bridge-ports eth0 The effect of this configuration will be similar to what would be obtained if the containers were machines plugged into the same physical network as the host. The “bridge” configuration manages the transit of Ethernet frames between all the bridged interfaces, which includes the physical eth0 as well as the interfaces defined for the containers. In cases where this configuration cannot be used (for instance, if no public IP addresses can be assigned to the containers), a virtual tap interface will be created and connected to the bridge. The equivalent network topology then becomes that of a host with a second network card plugged into a separate switch, with the containers also plugged into that switch. The host must then act as a gateway for the containers if they are meant to communicate with the outside world. Less important but possibly relevant or helpful info is that, although the guide above is for lxc, I don't use lxc but kvm, and the kvm install instructions link back to the lxc networking section on the same page. That's why I got confused and sent the wrong guide. I'll stop with the irrelevant stuff now lol. Glad to offer any more assistance or info I can. Gabe ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
Am 18. Februar 2021 16:36:26 MEZ schrieb "Ludovic Bellière" : > Posivite review I presume? Yes, positive but not 100% correct. Good journalism wants to get paid - and damn, for a couple of well-considered reasons, I too use an adbocker... But as usual, the "forists" helped out and the author updated the article promptly :-) -- Florian Zieboll Hauptstraße 6a D-68535 Edingen Telefon: +49 6203 925 78 36 Mobil: +49 160 690 15 87 E-Mail: f.zieb...@web.de PGP keyID: 0xEE454979FE441FD6 Chat / xmpp: f.zieb...@xabber.de Chat / matrix: @florian_zieboll:feneas.org WWW: https://www.zwischenspeicher.info [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:36:26 +0100, Ludovic wrote in message <20210218163626.557de...@aasterinian.home>: > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:41:52 +0100 > Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de > > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 > > > > libre Grüße, > > Florian > > > > Posivite review I presume? ..I'd say yes, AFAIU German and Googlish. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
Posivite review I presume? On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:41:52 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de > (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: > > https://www.heise.de/-5057592 > > libre Grüße, > Florian > > pgpFJAfAQfNG4.pgp Description: Signature digitale OpenPGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan 3.1 media coverage
Nice, Devuan made it to the reputable german IT news at heise.de (also home of the internet magazine 'telepolis') again: https://www.heise.de/-5057592 libre Grüße, Florian -- [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Assigning a specific subnet and address to a Devuan Beowulf Qemu guest
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:28:16 -0700 Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 16:28 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi Gabe, > > On your guest VM, what does it say your default route is when > > youperform the ip route command? > > results of ip route: > > default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 > 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.75 > > > > Did you need to do something special to get that default > > route(gateway)? > > Thanks, > > SteveT > > I believe I used the below from here, as well as the 'set up a bridge' > link and maybe the 'QEMU' page linked. > > I thought I had started keeping better notes about what I do... I must > have started that after I installed this VM lol. > > > > > source url (same as above label'd "here"): > https://wiki.debian.org/KVM?highlight=%28%5CbCategoryVirtualization%5Cb%29#Setting_up_bridge_networking > Between VM host, guests and the world > In order to let communications between host, guests and outside world, > you may set up a bridge and as described at QEMU page. > For > example, you can modify the network configuration file > /etc/network/interfaces to setup the ethernet interface eth0 to a > bridge > interface br0 similar as below. After the configuration, you can > set using Bridge Interface br0 as the network connection in VM guest > configuration. 1) Is the following /etc/network/interfaces on the guest, or on the host? 2) If on the guest, do I need to have the "gateway" part of the br0 iface be an address *other* than the gateway the host and rest of the LAN uses? 3) Is a TAP needed anywhere? Do I need to make provisions for it (and if so, where) 4) If the TAP is needed, do I have to make , or does the guest make the TAP and set it up? > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network interface > auto eth0 > > #make sure we don't get addresses on our raw device > iface eth0 inet manual > iface eth0 inet6 manual > > #set up bridge and give it a static ip > auto br0 > iface br0 inet static > address 192.168.1.2 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > network 192.168.1.0 > broadcast 192.168.1.255 > gateway 192.168.1.1 > bridge_ports eth0 > bridge_stp off > bridge_fd 0 > bridge_maxwait 0 > dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 > > #allow autoconf for ipv6 > iface br0 inet6 auto > accept_ra 1Once that is correctly configured, you should be > able to use the bridge on new VM deployments with: > > virt-install --network bridge=br0 [...] That last line looks like you're not using TAP at all. Is that true? What goes between the square brackets? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
