Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
I wrote: > Gentle reminder: The correcct name of this A/V conferencing server > software is Jitsi Meet. The Jitsi Project has published several pieces > of software; Jitsi Meet is the best known among them. Jitsi Project codebases so far: o Jitsi Desktop aka 'Jitsi' aka 'the SIP

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > My biggest beef with Microsoft Teams, Zoom, and now Jitsi-meetthey > all omitted an essential service. What I want is (looking at you Rick > :P) a test sever which simply echo's back the incoming video\audio to > the client. As mentioned, the

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software > lists four open source systems: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami_(software) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMeetings >

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-05 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 22:01:33 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Anyone knows which one to choose for a smallish group (< 20 persons) ? I /had/ Jitsi Meet running (w/o local turn server and jigasi) on a Odroid XU-4 with 2GB RAM. Tested with up to four participants and running quite well.

[DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-05 Thread karl
Rick Moen: ... > More to the point, Jitsi Meet (reminder: that's its correct name) > is open source (Apache License 2.0). All it takes to run is a computer > with adequate RAM and a public IP address. > > BigBlueButton also has many adherents, and is generally similar > (including relying on

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > So while a home-grown installation is all of our goal, until then, > anything on meet.jit.si works pretty darn well, as long as your browser > is Chromium if you're on Linux. Looks like Jitsi Meet's supported browsers list has moved to

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 18:56:25 + Simon Hobson wrote: > Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > For the sake of completeness and y'all's convenience, here a link > > to the related info in the Debianwiki: > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames > > Did anyone else read that and

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Technically, it's not Chrome. I use Chromium for jitsi, zoom, Discord, > and Gathertown. I'm more than a little fond of ungoogled-chromium, for such purposes. https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > The benefit of this list is if meet.jit.si ever dies during a meeting > or classroom, there can be a predefined list of alternate URLs to go > to. This makes Jitsi a much safer choice than I thought it was. More to the point, Jitsi Meet

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > a list of jitsi instances : > https://framatalk.org/accueil/en/info Ah, thank you (ευχαριστώ). I've been trying to re-find that. Gentle reminder: The correcct name of this A/V conferencing server software is Jitsi Meet. The Jitsi Project has

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-05 Thread Simon Hobson
Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > For the sake of completeness and y'all's convenience, here a link to the > related info in the Debianwiki: > > https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames Did anyone else read that and think it could be summarised along the lines of : "We thought X was badly

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, March 5, 2021 4:33 PM, wrote: > On 2021-03-05 04:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know > > works with Jitsi-meet ? > > I use vivaldi for jitsi (but nothing else). It just works. > >

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 07:05 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Gabe, > > I'm also going to try to get a Jitsi-centric VM running. But you > needn't wait to install Jitsi on your own computer to enjoy Jitsi. > For > over a year, GoLUG (my local LUG) has met at > https://meet.jit.si/golug, > with

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
>Στις 5/3/21 2:05 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: >> meet.jit.si works pretty darn well > >no it doesn't. at least not for everyone.. What specific claims do people have about meet.jit.si? >a list of jitsi instances : >https://framatalk.org/accueil/en/info The preceding link is outstanding

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
>En 5 de marzo de 2021 1:27:25 Steve Litt >escribió: >> >> Guilty pleasure: I liked Kiss. And Abba too. And (yeah, I'm a >> hypocrite) KC and the Sunshine Band. And Heart and Fleetwood Mac. > >There is no mention to The Police in this thread. I *love* King of Pain by the Police. I also love

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 10:23:24AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Having been forced to use both Microsoft Teams and Zoom (thanks Covid) I am > trying to get Jitsi-meet working. > > > Stage 1. Jitsi Client on Devuan (web browser) > > Issue: I cannot get incoming sound to work with Jitsi. > > I

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > I use vivaldi for jitsi (but nothing else). It just works. The proprietary Vivaldi browser is a good choice (other than being proprietary) _because_ it is based on Chromium's Blink rendering engine, hence has good WebRTC support and a decent

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >On 05/03 10:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> > >> Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know > >> works with Jitsi-meet ? Any other suggestions to fix the audio ? > > > >If you use headphones you can open two tabs to the

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >In case anyone's interested in an extended and only semi-temperate rant > >on this theme: > >http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/meetup.html > > I love your essay, but you were much too kind to meetup.com. ;-> I'll work on that.

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting o1bigtenor via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > Asking to confirm - - - - so Firefox won't work? Some folks have no problems with particular Firefox versions (talking to Jitsi Meet), but it's not officially recommended as per https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/wiki/Browser-support .[1]

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 05 March 2021 at 17:46:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Friday, March 5, 2021 10:32 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > In MS Teams, go to your profile (something up in the top right), then > > Settings and Devices, and there's a button labelled "Make a

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 05 March 2021 at 17:38:40, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-03-05 04:32, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Friday 05 March 2021 at 11:23:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > In MS Teams, go to your profile (something up in the top right), then > > Settings and Devices, and there's a button

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, March 5, 2021 10:32 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2021 at 11:23:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > My biggest beef with Microsoft Teams, Zoom, and now Jitsi-meetthey all > > omitted an essential service. What I want is (looking at

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting o1bigtenor (o1bigte...@gmail.com): > > Care to try reframing the question? > > Quoting: > Before any asks: No, I didn't do that on Devuan because I was in a > huge hurry and had a known-good Amazon EC2 AMI of Debian 10 at my > disposal. I expect that my setup instructions will work

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
Re: Firefox To answer myself, it seems Firefox made a change somewhere around v75 to the audio input bitrate refusing to work with anything that does not match. Quickly threw up a Jitsi server. Can make Jitsi work under Chrome browser on all available systems but my own workstation! Ho

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread golinux
On 2021-03-05 04:32, Antony Stone wrote: On Friday 05 March 2021 at 11:23:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: In MS Teams, go to your profile (something up in the top right), then Settings and Devices, and there's a button labelled "Make a test call". It plays an announcement, then a ping sound,

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread golinux
On 2021-03-05 04:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know works with Jitsi-meet ? I use vivaldi for jitsi (but nothing else). It just works. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 04:30:12PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > Στις 5/3/21 2:05 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: > > meet.jit.si works pretty darn well > > no it doesn't. at least not for everyone.. it's the most popular instance, > and because of its popularity -i guess-, really lagging for

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 06:13:47AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:05 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Anyway, I'm 1500 miles away from Denver, but if it's a meeting and > > >> not > > >> a "meetup", I'd like to attend via Jitsi. > > > > > >This is incentive

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 5/3/21 5:02 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: Found it: The home of Alekos Panagoulis :-) He wasn't as optimistic as you are about your politics even after the fall of papadopoulos i'm not an optimist at all, especially about politics..., but glad some people know of Alekos

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Steve Litt : He has recommended http://towardtheunknownregion.com Very strange Website, "radioseagull" makes me think about free local radios of Brittany(where are my roots). sl...@troubleshooters.com looks like the name of a french hard-rock band, Starshooter! Dimitris: even though

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Harald Arnesen via Dng
aitor [05.03.2021 15:22]: > On the other hand, Steve, I would include Yoko Ono's long plays to your > list of punishments for those people in the hell forced to use systemd, > in addition to the normal > > fire and brimstone. Yoko Ono for eternity. So you WANT me to use Substance D (systemd),

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 18:54 -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Here are my (raw, and I stress, _raw_) notes from setting up Jitsi > Meet > (on Amazon EC2, on Debian 10) in a tearing hurry for the 2020 World > Science Fiction Convention (the '2020 Worldcon'), which was forced by > the exploding pandemic to

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 5/3/21 2:05 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: meet.jit.si works pretty darn well no it doesn't. at least not for everyone.. it's the most popular instance, and because of its popularity -i guess-, really lagging for most users. (doing volunteer support for some groups and noone wanted to try

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread aitor
En 5 de marzo de 2021 1:27:25 Steve Litt escribió: Guilty pleasure: I liked Kiss. And Abba too. And (yeah, I'm a hypocrite) KC and the Sunshine Band. And Heart and Fleetwood Mac. There is no mention to The Police in this thread. I also was going to mention the bluesman John Mayall (later

[DNG] Fw: Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
Friedhelm Mehnert wanted me to forward this to the list. He has recommended http://towardtheunknownregion.com . I just got through listening to an 80's show there. Next I listened to a great Motown show there. Now I'm listening to some sort of eclectic oldies program. Thanks Friedhelm!

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:49:06 +0100 Stephane Ascoet via Dng wrote: > tito : > > You still have Tiscali in Italy ;-) > > > >> > >> Others include of course Pink Floyd, > > It's my second favorite band and I wrote them in my first mail ;-) > > > Steppenwolf, Janis Joplin, The > >> Doors...so

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
>On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:05 AM Steve Litt >wrote: >> >> Hi Gabe, >> >> I'm also going to try to get a Jitsi-centric VM running. But you >> needn't wait to install Jitsi on your own computer to enjoy Jitsi. >> For over a year, GoLUG (my local LUG) has met at >> https://meet.jit.si/golug, with

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
>On 05/03 10:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> ... >> >> Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know >> works with Jitsi-meet ? Any other suggestions to fix the audio ? > >If you use headphones you can open two tabs to the same meeting and >talk to yourself. I never thought of

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
>On 05/03 10:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> ... >> >> Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know >> works with Jitsi-meet ? Any other suggestions to fix the audio ? > >If you use headphones you can open two tabs to the same meeting and >talk to yourself. My psychiatrist

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
>Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >> From my point of view, meetup.com has inserted itself into LUG >> operations as an unneeded middle man for LUGs without an effective >> publicity officer. > >In case anyone's interested in an extended and only semi-temperate rant >on this

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:05 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > >> Anyway, I'm 1500 miles away from Denver, but if it's a meeting and > >> not > >> a "meetup", I'd like to attend via Jitsi. > > > >This is incentive for me to take another crack at getting a jitsi > >instance running. It will probably

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 9:32 PM Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting o1bigtenor (o1bigte...@gmail.com): > > > I, for one, p l e a s e ? (!?!) > > {sigh} > > Care to try reframing the question? Quoting: Before any asks: No, I didn't do that on Devuan because I was in a huge hurry and had a known-good

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Litt
> >> Anyway, I'm 1500 miles away from Denver, but if it's a meeting and >> not >> a "meetup", I'd like to attend via Jitsi. > >This is incentive for me to take another crack at getting a jitsi >instance running. It will probably take me a couple months to get one >working since time is

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-05 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 11:36:52 +0100 Adrian Zaugg wrote: > Does anyone see this problem on Debian too (non-bootable after GRUB update)? Well, it happened to me few days ago, tough the usual tricks did the job (setting root at grub prompt, booting the /vmlinux and issuing update-grub and

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, March 5, 2021 10:36 AM, Adrian Zaugg wrote: > On 05.03.21 05:08, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > The changelog mentions changes to secure boot. Could that be related to > > the issue? > > No, not in my case, secure boot is not in use on the

Re: [DNG] Strange behaviour with last version of grub

2021-03-05 Thread Adrian Zaugg
On 05.03.21 05:08, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > The changelog mentions changes to secure boot. Could that be related to > the issue? No, not in my case, secure boot is not in use on the concerned system. Does anyone see this problem on Debian too (non-bootable after GRUB update)?

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, March 5, 2021 10:29 AM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On 05/03 10:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > ... > > Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know works > > with Jitsi-meet ? > > Any other suggestions to fix the audio ?

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 05 March 2021 at 11:23:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: > My biggest beef with Microsoft Teams, Zoom, and now Jitsi-meetthey all > omitted an essential service. What I want is (looking at you Rick :P) a > test sever which simply echo's back the incoming video\audio to the > client. In MS

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On 05/03 10:23, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ... > > Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know works with > Jitsi-meet ? > Any other suggestions to fix the audio ? If you use headphones you can open two tabs to the same meeting and talk to yourself. Ralph.

[DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
Having been forced to use both Microsoft Teams and Zoom (thanks Covid) I am trying to get Jitsi-meet working. Stage 1. Jitsi Client on Devuan (web browser) Issue: I cannot get incoming sound to work with Jitsi. I use TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) which uses 'Arts' sound system sitting

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
tito : You still have Tiscali in Italy ;-) Others include of course Pink Floyd, It's my second favorite band and I wrote them in my first mail ;-) Steppenwolf, Janis Joplin, The Doors...so many to name. I though about them but for me it's more 60's than 70's AC/DC, Aerosmith,

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music, video platforms

2021-03-05 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Steve Litt : Here are my favorite music decades, from most to least liked: Hi, yes, it fits with what I guessed from your original post. For me it's: 1) 1950's 2) 1960's 3) 1970's 4) 1980's 5) 1990's 6) 2000's-2009 Notes: -The size of the steps aren't the same each time. In fact the

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-05 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 05/03/2021 à 07:48, tito via Dng a écrit : > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:38:49 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > >>> On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 21:44:30 + >>> g4sra via Dng wrote: >>> In my young years I used to tinker with linux distros on floppy >>> disks and there still where eth0, eth1 and so on but no