Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-29 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:42:00AM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> this package is ascii (not beowulf), so you probably need :
> 
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii raspi
> 
> d.

I guess that would explain why it's not indexed in Beowulf. When I add
the above to my sources.list and apt-get update, I get:

W: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease
Unable to find expected entry 'raspi/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release
file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
 
Since this isn't a Beowulf package, I'm probably better off just
fetching the latest firmware from Raspberry Pi's github repo, or cross
compile my own from linux stable, since I seem to recall that the
Raspberry Pi code made it into the main kernel.org source tree a while
ago. Thanks to everyone for your help.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights (OT)

2021-03-29 Thread al3xu5
Fri, 26 Mar 2021 22:58:39 +0100 - Riccardo Mottola
:

[...]

> But I make a step back and do a further comment: I want politics out of 
> free software. [...] it should concentrate on
> code, technology and access to it.

And this is exactly what FSF is doing today: abandon the original
philosophical (political, ideological) approach, to focus on purely legal
and technical aspects, and on internal struggles behind which there are
the interests of corporation that finance developers and projects the
whose only interest is for profit ...

Instead I would like the exact opposite: that FSF was essentially
concentrated on the social and political aspects related to digital
software and technologies in general, at a much higher and broad level of
the defense of 4 poor legal rights that very little importance have with
freedom and (more importantly) equality among people.

Mainly (but not only) for these reasons, after so many years since 2009,
I don't think I will still be a member of FSF.

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Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/03/2021 à 11:14, Alessandro Vesely via Dng a écrit :
> On Fri 26/Mar/2021 22:58:39 +0100 Riccardo Mottola wrote:
>> I want politics out of free software.
>> [...]
>>
>> Remember how many voices there were back then against "evil
>> Microsoft" and IE6?
>>
>> But how many raise their voices today against Chrome?
>
>
> And IBM before M$...
>
>
>> Two weights, two measures.
>
>
> If you mean Google (or just Chrome) is enjoying undue community favor,
> I disagree.  Google's curve is still growing and the handover to the
> next actor is not yet on sight, but some marks are visible.  For one,
> Google doesn't appear among FSF's patrons after 2016[*].  By now, they
> reached the evil's side.  Opposing voices are raising, and I look
> forward for a GNU SmartOS.
>
> If you look at the tangent envelope of all those curves, you see the
> growth of software is very strong.  It is certainly an economic
> question.  How, then, could you keep politics off?  Free software
> poses political problems.  These problems are different from those of
> the previous industrial revolution, but they are still political
> problems.


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Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-29 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng

On Fri 26/Mar/2021 22:58:39 +0100 Riccardo Mottola wrote:

I want politics out of free software.
[...]

Remember how many voices there were back then against "evil Microsoft" and IE6?

But how many raise their voices today against Chrome?



And IBM before M$...



Two weights, two measures.



If you mean Google (or just Chrome) is enjoying undue community favor, I 
disagree.  Google's curve is still growing and the handover to the next actor 
is not yet on sight, but some marks are visible.  For one, Google doesn't 
appear among FSF's patrons after 2016[*].  By now, they reached the evil's 
side.  Opposing voices are raising, and I look forward for a GNU SmartOS.


If you look at the tangent envelope of all those curves, you see the growth of 
software is very strong.  It is certainly an economic question.  How, then, 
could you keep politics off?  Free software poses political problems.  These 
problems are different from those of the previous industrial revolution, but 
they are still political problems.



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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-29 Thread Dimitris via Dng

Στις 29/3/21 6:22 π.μ., ο/η Gregory Nowak via Dng έγραψε:

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:04:11AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:59 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng  
wrote:
<-snip->





Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct
package manually, and install with dpkg -i?



You don't say what the 'correct' package is that you wish to install.



Good point:

http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/linux-image-raspi_4.20.4-3_armhf.deb

Greg




this package is ascii (not beowulf), so you probably need :

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii raspi

d.



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