Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 02:00:57PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > > > > > If the installer must be run as root, it is precisely because it > > > > needs > > > > to install software in /usr. > > Or into /usr/local which now requires root. Back in the better days > of Debian it used to

Re: [DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

2022-01-06 Thread Ken Dibble
On 1/6/22 4:48 PM, Antony Stone wrote: On Thursday 06 January 2022 at 22:30:58, Ken Dibble wrote: Why is xdg-desktop-portal in a fresh install of Chimaera? I have a Chimaera machine here, freshly installed, without any graphical desktop environment - just a command-line network server - and

Re: [DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

2022-01-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 06 January 2022 at 22:30:58, Ken Dibble wrote: > Why is xdg-desktop-portal in a fresh install of Chimaera? I have a Chimaera machine here, freshly installed, without any graphical desktop environment - just a command-line network server - and xdg-desktop- portal is not installed. >

[DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

2022-01-06 Thread Ken Dibble
At the risk of confirming that I am none too smart, I have the following question.\ Why is xdg-desktop-portal in a fresh install of Chimaera?\ It can be safely uninstalled, as it no devuan packages in the base install require it, and as far as I can tell it is only needed for snap and

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-06 Thread Bob Proulx via Dng
Didier Kryn wrote: > Hendrik Boom a ecrit : > > > > software that isn't properly packaged as a .deb, but instead has an > > > > "installer" that needs to be run as root. Immediately I think of all of those script "installers" that request the user do this and similar to install their software as

Re: [DNG] Conversion from BullsEye to Devuan Fails

2022-01-06 Thread tempforever
tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > would you like to the test this conversion script at: > > https://git.devuan.org/farmatito/migration > > Hi, you posted this in response to someone else's migration.  I read all the warnings about running this remotely, and then tested it on a new server with minimal

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-06 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 05/01/2022 à 23:12, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 09:54:20PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 05/01/2022 à 16:11, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 12:08:18AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 04/01/2022 à 23:38, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at

Re: [DNG] make-rc: A parallel (as in make(1)) alternative to sysv-rc

2022-01-06 Thread onefang
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, or something... I wrote an implementation of sysv-init based on the LSB spec. This was back when the LSB spec was a thing. Not even looked at it since, but let's see if I can correctly recall some of the features. Written in C. Fully implemented the

[DNG] Problems with SPF of dyne.org for this mailing list

2022-01-06 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, This report/notice is generated from the  mail server which handles incoming and outgoing emails for: the mailing list NB: Incoming email has been flagged with a permanent error due to the currently defined SPF ruleset as setup by those responsible for the SENDING domain name.   Sending IP

Re: [DNG] Track process start / stop?

2022-01-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 06 January 2022 at 12:04:48, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 11:51:09AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I'm wondering whether there is any way of getting a list or log file of > > processes which get started and terminated, independently of whether > > those

Re: [DNG] Track process start / stop?

2022-01-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 11:51:09AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > I'm wondering whether there is any way of getting a list or log file of > processes which get started and terminated, independently of whether those > processes themselves actually do any logging. > > > I'm wondering

[DNG] Track process start / stop?

2022-01-06 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm wondering whether there is any way of getting a list or log file of processes which get started and terminated, independently of whether those processes themselves actually do any logging. Suppose you're running "top". You see processes appear and disappear from the list as they start

Re: [DNG] make-rc: A parallel (as in make(1)) alternative to sysv-rc

2022-01-06 Thread Steve Litt
Back in 2014 I suggested a solution using make, in order to address dependencies. I didn't closely read your scripts or the make file, but the only way I can imagine this new system would speed boot is if it ran things in the background and found ways to see when dependencies finished. Otherwise,