Re: [DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:25:49AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Here's a devuan chimaera minimal-live iso with grub-efi-amd64-signed. > Please let me know if it works with secure boot. Thanks. Thanks fsmithred. The image you provided has the same issue as the previous image "secure boot violation." I suspect the grub signature isn't the problem. If it were, I'm 90% sure the USB drive wouldn't show as boot media in the boot menu. I suspect the problem is the UEFI expects something signed by Microsoft. I was able to sort of solve my problem by creating a windows system image from within windows itself. It not only restores in a virtual machine, but also boots. Everything in the restored system seems to be as it was when I created the system image, including the recovery partition. Thanks for your help fsmithred. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
> On 24 Apr 2022, at 12:23, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > Antony Stone writes: > >>> On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with > > $ find / | grep xorg.conf Personally I'd have gone for: find / -name xorg.conf >>> >>> I may be wrong (and nitpicking;) - but I think that your approach is >>> less fast, as 'find' does the file name matching /before/ it continues >>> searching - in opposite to just piping its output to grep and going on >>> with running down the file system hierarchy without any interruption. >> >> Interesting - and you're right. >> >> I just tried several successive searches for a few unique filenames in a >> directory tree (all files in the same directory, just in case the position >> made >> a difference). >> >> The first search took 6 minutes and clearly set up some cache of results, >> because subsequent searches were consistently: >> >>find . | grep filename : 20 seconds >> >>find . -name filename : 25 seconds >> >> That was consistent no matter whether the two filenames were the same, or >> different but still in the same directory, and no matter which command was >> run >> first. >> >> Nice observation. > > Indeed but you must have an awful lot of files, slow disks and/or a slow > network connection. After setting up the cache on my machine, I get 0.7 > seconds for the -name approach and 0.5 seconds for grep. > That's with close to half a million filesystem entries and about 7000 of > those on an NFS backed filesystem on the NAS downstairs. The rest is on > an SSD (NVMe). > > Another point, the grep approach also lists everything below a directory > that matches, whereas the -name approach does not. That may be a lot of > extra junk to scan through depending on what you're looking for. > That's also why I suggested redirecting errors to /dev/null when looking > for stuff below / as a normal user ;-) > > Hope this helps, > -- > Olaf Meeuwissen How does this speed compare to mlocate or whatever is the preferred version of locate database these days? -- Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Looking for xorg.conf (was Re: mouse driver question)
Hi, Fred writes: > [...] > I had previously looked for xorg.conf in /etc/X11 where one would > expect a config. file to be. I did find one at > /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf. It had a single > entry and didn't appear likely to be read for mouse configuration. As I mentioned in a previous response, nowadays Xorg gets by without this file quite well, most of the time. It simply probes your system and uses what it finds. You can configure things yourself but you'll have to write your own /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
Hi, Antony Stone writes: > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > >> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: >> > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >> > >> > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with >> > > >> > > $ find / | grep xorg.conf >> > >> > Personally I'd have gone for: >> >find / -name xorg.conf >> >> I may be wrong (and nitpicking;) - but I think that your approach is >> less fast, as 'find' does the file name matching /before/ it continues >> searching - in opposite to just piping its output to grep and going on >> with running down the file system hierarchy without any interruption. > > Interesting - and you're right. > > I just tried several successive searches for a few unique filenames in a > directory tree (all files in the same directory, just in case the position > made > a difference). > > The first search took 6 minutes and clearly set up some cache of results, > because subsequent searches were consistently: > > find . | grep filename : 20 seconds > > find . -name filename : 25 seconds > > That was consistent no matter whether the two filenames were the same, or > different but still in the same directory, and no matter which command was run > first. > > Nice observation. Indeed but you must have an awful lot of files, slow disks and/or a slow network connection. After setting up the cache on my machine, I get 0.7 seconds for the -name approach and 0.5 seconds for grep. That's with close to half a million filesystem entries and about 7000 of those on an NFS backed filesystem on the NAS downstairs. The rest is on an SSD (NVMe). Another point, the grep approach also lists everything below a directory that matches, whereas the -name approach does not. That may be a lot of extra junk to scan through depending on what you're looking for. That's also why I suggested redirecting errors to /dev/null when looking for stuff below / as a normal user ;-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Looking for a file (was Re: mouse driver question)
Hi, Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 > Fred wrote: > >> A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in >> Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). >> >> So, where do I go from here? > > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with > > $ find / | grep xorg.conf Make that find / -name '*xorg.conf*' 2>/dev/null You can omit the redirect to /dev/null if running as root. > Also worth a try: > > $ man 5 xorg.conf Or try https://manpages.debian.org/xorg.conf if that manual page is not present on your system. BTW, it's in xserver-xorg-core. BTW2, I don't think there's a similar service for Devuan, yet(?) There's also https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents where you can search for both files and packages. All that said, these days the Xorg server works quite well without this file, auto-detecting things upon startup, so chances are you don't have this file. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On 4/23/22 12:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote: Fred: On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around. To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm in a console first to assert basic functionality, and then come back. Did you do the test above ? As long the serial port isn't opened by anything, you can let X11 and openbox be running. If so, press Ctl-Alt-F2 buttons simultaineusly to get to a console. There log in as root and then try one of gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t msc gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t sun gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t mman and move the mouse to test. A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). So, where do I go from here? You can either A, do a xorg configuration with the mouse driver man xorg.conf is your friend. B, try inputattach to make the mouse appear as a /dev/input/* device and be automatically included by X11, I haven't tested this. See https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Serial_input_device_to_kernel_input https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxconsole/files/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Serial_Mouse Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng It is going to take me a few days to get back to try your suggestions. I am drowning in things to do. If gpm only works in a virtual terminal why do I need to continue working with it? I don't use a virtual terminal. I had previously looked for xorg.conf in /etc/X11 where one would expect a config. file to be. I did find one at /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf. It had a single entry and didn't appear likely to be read for mouse configuration. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On 4/23/22 15:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:19:45PM -0700, Fred wrote: The mouse is a Sun three button mouse without the scroll wheel. I frequently use a program that makes extensive use of the middle button and the pc mouse scroll wheel is hateful. I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll wheel. So there's no ambiguity as to which I am using. I've never seen one. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I would be very happy with that. The scroll wheel should never have been included with the middle button but it is cheaper to build that way and that is more important than ergonomics. I also don't like the beetle wings for buttons one and three because I am often accidentally clicking button three. The Sun mouse has three buttons with spacing between to rest your fingers. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no access to router administation page
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:09:31 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The > router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 > (this IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens > both with Chromium and Firefox. Rebooting the router and resarting > the network did not help Is the admin page on another default port setting? Does nmap(?) show that the port/ports are open? Can you contact it by any other protocol? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Multi-button mice Re: mouse driver question
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: Thread snipples. > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > Hi, > I understand now. I was stuck on gpm because it worked some time ago > on Debian Jessie. I was not ready to continue with it then because I > still had use of my Sun workstation. The Sun is gone now, I was able > to move the application program to Linux and now I need a three > button mouse without the scroll wheel that works with X11. Maybe the > Sun mouse. > > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > > So, where do I go from here? I'm just using a basic ms compatible mouse that has a scroll wheel/third button i.e. it clicks if you just press it. Whether it does anything depends on the current software. Sometimes it is just a matter of setting an action in a table. Currently, in a xterm box and a virtual terminal it pasts the buffer (load with control c/x). AFAIR it has been that way since the "start of time(Jessie)" and in the epochs before. Logictech and other manufacturers also make multi(additional)-button mice and usually provide at least a driver for the current MS version. There are of course various efforts to develop open source drivers so an investigation in that area may yield a solution. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:26:59 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll wheel. > So there's no ambiguity as to which I am using. > I've never seen one. Out of curiosity, I just did a quick websearch for four+button+mouse - there are dozens of options out there. It should be easy to disable the "wheel click" with libinput's 'ButtonMapping' option. At home, I use a trackball with four buttons, which has the additional advantage of living in peace with the tea cup on my narrow desk -_- libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no access to router administation page
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 06:09:31PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The > router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 (this > IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens both > with Chromium and Firefox. Rebooting the router and resarting the > network did not help HTTP://192.168.1.254 Ralph. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no access to router administation page
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:09:31 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The > router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 (this > IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens both > with Chromium and Firefox. Rebooting the router and resarting the > network did not help > > Haines Brown Hi, reset and reconfigure? reflash firmware? buy a new one? better build one yourself? Ciao. Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no access to router administation page
Hello Haines, Maybe your router is faulty? Contact your vendor. Cheers, Ludovic On Sat, 23 Apr 2022, Haines Brown wrote: I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 (this IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens both with Chromium and Firefox. Rebooting the router and resarting the network did not help Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:19:45PM -0700, Fred wrote: > The mouse is a Sun three button mouse without the scroll wheel. I > frequently use a program that makes extensive use of the middle button and > the pc mouse scroll wheel is hateful. I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll wheel. So there's no ambiguity as to which I am using. I've never seen one. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] no access to router administation page
I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 (this IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens both with Chromium and Firefox. Rebooting the router and resarting the network did not help Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with > > > > > > $ find / | grep xorg.conf > > > > Personally I'd have gone for: > > find / -name xorg.conf > > I may be wrong (and nitpicking;) - but I think that your approach is > less fast, as 'find' does the file name matching /before/ it continues > searching - in opposite to just piping its output to grep and going on > with running down the file system hierarchy without any interruption. Interesting - and you're right. I just tried several successive searches for a few unique filenames in a directory tree (all files in the same directory, just in case the position made a difference). The first search took 6 minutes and clearly set up some cache of results, because subsequent searches were consistently: find . | grep filename : 20 seconds find . -name filename : 25 seconds That was consistent no matter whether the two filenames were the same, or different but still in the same directory, and no matter which command was run first. Nice observation. Antony. -- The more 'success' you get, the easier it is to be disappointed by not getting things. The only difference is that now no-one feels sorry for you. - Matt Haig Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 09:07:57AM -0700, Fred wrote: > On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Fred: > > > On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > ... > > > >gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc > > ... > > > It shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0. I have tried that command line several > > > times. Nothing happens. ps -e shows gpm is running. The pointer will > > > not move and the mouse buttons have no effect. > > ... > > > > You have to be aware that gpm is for virtual consoles: > > > > $ man gpm | grep 'gpm - ' > > gpm - a cut and paste utility and mouse server for virtual consoles > > > > So in X11, openbox etc. graphical environment, it has no effect unless > > you take special action. With graphical environment I mean bitmapped as > > opposed to character (i.e. letters) based graphics. > > > > Testing with gpm is best done without X11, so stop your window manager > > (obenbox) and exit from X11. If you then is presented with a greeter > > (also called display manager, see > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_(program_type) > > ), see if you can stop the greeter. > > > > Also testing has to be done as root. > > > > So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as > > root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around. > > > > To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm in > > a console first to assert basic functionality, and then come back. > > > > Regards, > > /Karl Hammar > > > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > Hi, > I understand now. I was stuck on gpm because it worked some time ago on > Debian Jessie. I was not ready to continue with it then because I still had > use of my Sun workstation. The Sun is gone now, I was able to move the > application program to Linux and now I need a three button mouse without the > scroll wheel that works with X11. Maybe the Sun mouse. > > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in Devuan > Beowulf (AMD64). > > So, where do I go from here? I think all mice are supposed to be handled by the kernel and will then get presented at /dev/input/mice You should be able to check that with a simple $ cat -v /dev/input/mice which should then show "noise" when you move the mouse. Then, I think the X11 system relies on udev for setting up its inputs and load the appropriate modules. You may take over that and do things "by hand" by a) making the following file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/a.conf Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" EndSection and b) installing xserver-xorg-input-kbd and xserver-xorg-input-mouse With that you avoid the automagic processes around X11 inputs and might have a slightly more stable system for tracking down the issue, if it remains. (Needs an X11 restart of course) Ralph. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > [...] > > > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with > > > > $ find / | grep xorg.conf > > Personally I'd have gone for: > > find / -name xorg.conf I may be wrong (and nitpicking;) - but I think that your approach is less fast, as 'find' does the file name matching /before/ it continues searching - in opposite to just piping its output to grep and going on with running down the file system hierarchy without any interruption. libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
Fred: > On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... > > So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as > > root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around. > > > > To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm in > > a console first to assert basic functionality, and then come back. Did you do the test above ? As long the serial port isn't opened by anything, you can let X11 and openbox be running. If so, press Ctl-Alt-F2 buttons simultaineusly to get to a console. There log in as root and then try one of gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t msc gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t sun gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t mman and move the mouse to test. > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > So, where do I go from here? You can either A, do a xorg configuration with the mouse driver man xorg.conf is your friend. B, try inputattach to make the mouse appear as a /dev/input/* device and be automatically included by X11, I haven't tested this. See https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Serial_input_device_to_kernel_input https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxconsole/files/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Serial_Mouse Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > > > > So, where do I go from here? > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with > > $ find / | grep xorg.conf Personally I'd have gone for: find / -name xorg.conf :) > Also worth a try: > > $ man 5 xorg.conf > libre Grüße, > Florian I still really like that greeting (if that's the right word for it in English). Antony. -- A good conversation is like a miniskirt; short enought to retain interest, but long enough to cover the subject. - Celeste Headlee Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > > So, where do I go from here? Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with $ find / | grep xorg.conf Also worth a try: $ man 5 xorg.conf libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote: Fred: On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc ... It shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0. I have tried that command line several times. Nothing happens. ps -e shows gpm is running. The pointer will not move and the mouse buttons have no effect. ... You have to be aware that gpm is for virtual consoles: $ man gpm | grep 'gpm - ' gpm - a cut and paste utility and mouse server for virtual consoles So in X11, openbox etc. graphical environment, it has no effect unless you take special action. With graphical environment I mean bitmapped as opposed to character (i.e. letters) based graphics. Testing with gpm is best done without X11, so stop your window manager (obenbox) and exit from X11. If you then is presented with a greeter (also called display manager, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_(program_type) ), see if you can stop the greeter. Also testing has to be done as root. So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around. To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm in a console first to assert basic functionality, and then come back. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Hi, I understand now. I was stuck on gpm because it worked some time ago on Debian Jessie. I was not ready to continue with it then because I still had use of my Sun workstation. The Sun is gone now, I was able to move the application program to Linux and now I need a three button mouse without the scroll wheel that works with X11. Maybe the Sun mouse. A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). So, where do I go from here? Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop
Here's a devuan chimaera minimal-live iso with grub-efi-amd64-signed. Please let me know if it works with secure boot. Thanks. fsmithred https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/devuan_chimaera_4.0.0-signed_amd64_minimal-live.iso ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop
On 4/20/22 20:55, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > So, remastering the minimal live image to have a valid secure boot > signature seems the simplest way forward. Any help on figuring out on > how to get a valid signature, and remastering the iso image would be > much appreciated. Sorry, I just saw this today. I have no experience with secure boot, but I can make a minimal-live iso that has the signed version of grub-efi-amd64 and post the link for you. You can let me know if it works. Thanks, fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mouse driver question
Fred: > On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... > > gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc ... > It shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0. I have tried that command line several > times. Nothing happens. ps -e shows gpm is running. The pointer will > not move and the mouse buttons have no effect. ... You have to be aware that gpm is for virtual consoles: $ man gpm | grep 'gpm - ' gpm - a cut and paste utility and mouse server for virtual consoles So in X11, openbox etc. graphical environment, it has no effect unless you take special action. With graphical environment I mean bitmapped as opposed to character (i.e. letters) based graphics. Testing with gpm is best done without X11, so stop your window manager (obenbox) and exit from X11. If you then is presented with a greeter (also called display manager, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_(program_type) ), see if you can stop the greeter. Also testing has to be done as root. So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around. To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm in a console first to assert basic functionality, and then come back. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
