On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:23:02 +0100, Rowland wrote in message
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> On 20/07/16 14:10, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:15:27 +0100, Rowland wrote in message
> > <578f5d4f.2020...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On 20/07/16 1
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:18:53 +0200, Arnt wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:09:14 +0200, Alexander wrote in message
> <20160720120914.gc25...@smithers.snow-crash.org>:
>
> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:15:27 +0100, Rowland wrote in message
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> On 20/07/16 12:11, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:48:20 +1200, Daniel wrote in message
> > <578f56f4.6060...@centurion.net.nz>:
> >
> >> Hi Ro
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:09:14 +0200, Alexander wrote in message
<20160720120914.gc25...@smithers.snow-crash.org>:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:25:39 +0200, Klaus wrote in message
> > <33d1c1ed-16ae-e76a
we (Devuan) lean on Slackware and alien conversion,
at least as a backup plan B to the potential Debian trap?
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:16:03 +0200, Edward wrote in message
214a2dbc5c25e8f719a10de4370b2
arnt@celsius:~$
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is appropriate with this level of
> depravity. If we can't trust them, word should get out the their
> opinions are bought.
>
> That is my free opinion ;)
..this clearly is where we could have used a http://groklaw.net/
style website.
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n the
> road to a final release for Devuan, I'll look at the state of various
> packaging attempts for vdev and work towards an official devuan
> package.
>
> D
>
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:05:51 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20160712110551.gt18...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:49:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > ..nowadays I see Devuan falling apart exactly because Debian
> >
> but yes, its definitely not polite nor useful to obfuscate code that
> people uses. to the contrary, I think literate programming is the way
..the only useful part of playing around with obfuscated code,
is learning to recognise attacks etc from the systemd boys.
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..med venn
ecure privacy distro to use, yet they have moved into systemd
> without posing even a question about it.
..not to mention qubes-os... ;oD
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:44:01 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message
<20160712114401.GA27051@reflex>:
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..this clearly is where we could have used a http://groklaw.net/
> > style website.
>
> Groklaw was great not because
t; >>> snapshot1 --description "clear system"
> >>> error: failed to get domain 'devuan_jessie'
> >>> error: An error occurred, but the cause is unknown".
> >>>
> >>> 2) "virsh list --all"
> >>> command return
On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:45:43 +0200, Didier wrote in message
<57932eb7.6080...@in2p3.fr>:
> Le 22/07/2016 23:33, Rick Moen a écrit :
> > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
> >
> >> ..bytt ut "inn" med "på", rett oversatt skal dette være:
&
my fingers by almost 40 years of
> > programming and I find it definitely more convenient for that task.
>
> Would it help if I apologise pour l'impérialisme américain? ;->
>
> (Je crains que nous ne parlons pas de Devuan. Nous devrions parler
> des questions techniques, mais
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:42:53 +0200, aitor_czr wrote in message
<5791ce7d.5000...@gnuinos.org>:
>
> Hi Arnt,
>
> On 07/21/2016 01:51 PM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:35:18 +0200, aitor_czr wrote in message
> > <5790
ft with two options: either elaborate
> a polkit-shim or discard applications which use it.
>
> Didier
..is there no --without-policykit switch we can use to recompile?
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SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> February 2017 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:22:09 -1000, Joel wrote in message
<20160901182209.GA10579@sprite>:
> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..to the Tor people: systemd made its way into Debian on banana
> > republic politics, not on tech merit. Devuan tries to become a
> > non-systemd
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:12:49 +0800, Brad wrote in message
<acf8e2a4-ae9e-deec-2d75-b4b4c5ad2...@fnarfbargle.com>:
> On 02/09/16 00:20, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >
> > ..we honk that nice big red "No-Shit???" horn now? ;o)
> > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.
pull in libsystemd0
> >
> > How official? upstream's? or Debian's?
>
> The ones from tor:
>
> deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org jessie main
..are you able to build working .deb without libsystemd0 or
any other SystemD code?
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he man behind SystemD.
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ts: 100% (165301/165301), 37.33 MiB | 513.00 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (131244/131244), done.
Checking connectivity... done.
arnt@celsius:~$ grep -r 'systemd' tor
...
arnt@celsius:~$ grep -C2 -r 'systemd' tor >bad-news-in-tor
arnt@celsius:~$ ll bad-news-in-tor & bad-news-in-tor
-
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 16:53:22 +0200, Edward wrote in message
ss to get help, get
> feedback and gauge Devuan project activity. The website does tell
> another story. If people gauge Devuan project activity and community
> based on their interaction with devuan-discuss, they will probably be
> disappointed. I think it is harmful when it comes to attract
re our banks away from using systemd?
(Since we depend on stupid luck anyway...)
..is systemd used in ballot machines?
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and
'apt-get dist-upgrade'. That installed a long list
> of packages.
> 5) Rebooted again to test the newly upgraded system.
>
> Edward
>
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Scenarios always
tps://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/
on a 3.5", 5.25" etc diskette or on the boot drive and follow the
recipe in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager
..might even boot 8086 boxes, but I doubt it works on EFI boxes.
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est "stable release" (1.0.2).
..which distro?
> Is anyone interested?
>
> David
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just
server?"
> Expert gets to pick from the list, and NetGod gets a commmand line to
> set up the name server system the way they want it.
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:12:10 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message
<9d409cb83199281c9e0a0b1c589e0...@dyne.org>:
> On 2017-03-25 10:17, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > ..http://amprolla.devuan.org/ is down, https://devuan.org/ remains
> > up.
>
> I
Hi,
..http://amprolla.devuan.org/ is down, https://devuan.org/ remains up.
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case
bian etc systemd people will need to work
hard to kill off dpkg and apt, if we keep our own git record of these
handy. Do we?
> So whether you're the kind of person who likes making your own
> packages, or the kind who just wants to get down to business, these
> three Suckless tools are j
st
> > Dng@lists.dyne.org
> > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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> which is not necessarily the case for e.g. dev1galaxy.org, they allow
> HTTP, so if your browser, e.g. Pale Moon --poor or no support from
> HTTPS Everywhere-- does not seek HTTPS automatically, dev1galaxy.org
> will even log you on in plaintext: that's an issu
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:43:01 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20170403154301.gy7...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 05:24:26PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >
> > > Please use both tools as much as possible and repo
similar pages going into more into a bunch of their details and
less into our bug control management details.
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, a
5376
..me, I'd like to see a systemd-free qubes-os style host OS.
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:49:53 -0400, Renaud wrote in message
<20170413094953.0b06f...@ron.cerrocora.org>:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:04:57 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote:
>
> > > > Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to
>
everything if you wanna come back",
maybe advice on the wisdom of putting /home, /usr/local etc on their
own file systems, rather than "everything on /."
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:21:53 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
<d3a264ce-a767-dffc-845d-d1eb26027...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> Arnt Karlsen wrote on 19/04/17 23:17:
> [cut]
> >
> > ...wiped udev off my box and wound up with a box that boots oh soo
> > fine until it trie
cture and Debian behaviour are untouched and Debian documentation
is 100% valid for DebianDog. You have access to all debian repositories
using apt-get or synaptic.", creating "Devuan-0.x Wheezy Live-CD" etc
is trivial, toss their repos for ours, update, upgrade and remaster,
the 64-
rk (in live mode) because the system searched for a
> cdrom_id binary, non existent in vdev. On the other hand, you will
> need to set your keyboard configuration at every reboot (minor issue)
> depending on your keymap. Beyond that,vdev works fine for me.
>
> Cheers,
>
>Aitor.
>
d-based grub invaders
game variant running https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4
or fetch and run http://www.nyan.cat/ ... ;o)
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
1 luther luther 42537 Apr 22 03:50
devuan_jessie_1.0.0-RC_i386_DVD.list.gz
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:54:07 +0200, Arnt wrote in message
<20170419185407.228cd...@nb6.lan>:
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:21:53 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
> <d3a264ce-a767-dffc-845d-d1eb26027...@gmail.com>:
>
> >
> >
> > Arnt Karlsen wrote on 19/04/1
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:47:59 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20170419214759.gc14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:37:32PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > ..what nasty command line
its head.
> Presumably these have been summed up somewhere on the web.
>
> -- hendrik
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in cas
issue is not about choosing systemd or not, rather on
> getting all the potterware or nothing.
>
> :(
..cheer up, we can still use FF as "The NO!!!-Sound Browser" ;o)
and explain the why-nots and whys and how-to-be-stupid and
pass the whiners on to the Debian etc poetterware distro
like https://qubes-os.org/ ;o)
..now, can we build on heads to get a safe alternative to
https://qubes-os.org/ ?
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst c
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:35:13 -0800, Rick wrote in message
<20170301073513.gb30...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
>
> > ..now, can we build on heads to get a safe alternative to
> > https://qubes-os.org/ ?
>
> Pretty please?
>
Hi,
..bug details:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/05/patch_qubes_to_prevent_pwnage_via_xen_bug/
https://www.qubes-os.org/
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/03/21/xsa-tracker/
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/04/04/qsb-29/
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:21:53 +0200, parazyd wrote in message
<20170424152153.GA12944@fq>:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:25:09 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> > <20170424122509.gt14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> >
>
> I'm running mate on an upgraded to ascii VM.
..I'm on KDE/Plasma, on vdev-0.1.2 and sysvinit-2.88dsf-59.2+devuan2.
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
e either, and have become quite
> used to LXDE - especially the boot speed of the leaner environment.
..ok, chances are you'll like LXQt. ;o)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXQt
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70M] @ 1920x1200x32@60fps on
a Dell Precision M4400, it's the default driver and works well, even
on a KDE/Plasma setup. The only use I'd have for the nvidia driver,
would be for benchmarking Flightgear and for 1080p-and-up video.
..but how does nouveau and nvidia compare these days?
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they still trust it?
..then we can learn from people like Linus and Theodore T'so.
..the "OT: most processors are insecure" is clearly worth a mention.
And somebody at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage might know when and how etc
the systemd deveopers learned what we learned in that thread here.
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t this
time? ;o)
..the "OT: most processors are insecure" is clearly worth a mention at
the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage.
..and somebody at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage might know when and how etc
the systemd deveopers learned what we learned in that thread here.
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apabilities.
My understanding comes from my experience with "banana republic"
and Cold War politics.
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Scenarios always come in sets of th
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message
d it's easier to keep them onside if we
> can show that there's a large (ie significant) user base for the
> non-systemd version.
>
> At present it's (I assume) fairly easy to patch out systemd-isms as
> it's not been around long enough to get major tentacles int
vices get lost! Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 00:37:08 -0700
Followup-For: Bug #806256
Package: systemd
Version: 232-25"
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=806256
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ng ever gets installed from experimental unless you explicitly
> say so.
...by inserting " -t experimental " between "apt-get|aptitude \
install" and the package names you want to install.
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> 2: Is there a way I can later go back to udev? How?
..dunno, I ain't going back to systemd-udev. ;o)
> There have been detailed discussions on #devuan. This search will
> take you to the times they were happening. Click on the specific time
> to get to the full exchanges:
>
>
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:43:11 -0400, Ismael wrote in message
<137df52c5546401899313d3793aa3...@natio.co.cu>:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arnt Karlsen" <a...@iaksess.no>
> To: <dng@lists.dyne.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:35
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:08:02 -0400, Ismael wrote in message
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Arnt Karlsen" <a...@iaksess.no>
> To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" <phao...@gmail.com>
> Cc: <dng@
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:36:10 -0400, Ismael wrote in message
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Arnt Karlsen" <a...@iaksess.no>
> To: <dng@lists.dyne.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:04 AM
> Su
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:50:11 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20170716165011.gj28...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
>
> > ..sissy. ;o)
> > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Sissy+Boy+Traitor%22+OR+%22the+Nepotist+Warrior+Ace%22+OR+%22Flew+So+High+a
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 +, Miroslav wrote in message
<20170716155935.47kq33o2s5zsbvai@gdOv>:
> On 170716-12:10+0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..sissy. ;o)
> > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Sissy+Boy+Traitor%22+OR+%22the+Nepotist+Warrior+Ace%22+OR+%22Flew+So+H
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:13:09 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20170718171309.gk15...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 07:06:46PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > error al abrir fichero
> > > gpgv: Firmado el mar 18 jul 2
>
> And that is the great poet Gaius Valerius Catullus's famous elegaic
> couplet, meaning 'hail and farewell.'
>
>
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ble.
>
> Restoring old gear is an expensive hobby. Poor kids in Africa can't
> afford that. And since they need computers for utilitarian reasons,
> hobbies shouldn't be a priority.
..agreed, e.g. Raspberry Pi type hardware is far more useful, off grid
they'll need batteries and solar p
to have the production server host in one VM and the beta in another,
> and the small host OS doing security & other monitoring of both, is
> cool. _______
..one possible fix: https://wiki.debian.org/X32Port minus systemd
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disk space
> available.
..there is, use aptitude, "u" to update, "U" to upgrade,
":" to pick stuff to hold back until "next time."
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in hi
viable alternative.
..once Debian does try put systemd on any of these archs, nothing is
lost, and we'll have a much better starting point for our Devuan arch
ports than we had for our first archs.
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...with a number of polar bear hunt
ent, since it contains an explanation of how you
> can downgrade to ascii.
..if apt-get upgrade fails you, aptitude upgrade might work and
vice versa, they solve package conflicts differently.
Safely? See above. ;o)
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...with a nu
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:59:05 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20170628195905.ga...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:58:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >
> > ..if apt-get upgrade fails you, aptitude upgrade might work and
> > vice versa, they solve pa
to drop the Debian graphics and use ours, and,
our jessie is "jessie (1.0)", while Debian's Jessie is "(8.8)",
or "Acht-Acht" in these Trumpian times
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/usr or /home, so that
> the attacker will have to try to decrypt them all;
> 4) you put stuff in /usr/local that might contain
> keys/passwords/sensitive information that would better be kept
> protected.
..if you wanna protect /usr/local, chop that off /usr and
encrypt, mount et
s",
'aptitude install jacksum' and play around. ;o)
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Scenarios always come in sets of three:
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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 02:00:22 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message
<20170703020022.7ede7fb3@ayu>:
> On Mon, 3 Jul at 2017 01:03:13 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 00:42:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message
> > <201707
efully they are reasonable people and
> will prefer having their software more widely circulated and used.
..this can be done (3) 2 ways, toss it into non-free (for now), and get
a compatible dual license for Devuan and other non-systemd distros.
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:16:16 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message
<20170706091616.tpkpampjaxc5ni64@reflex>:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 00:36:51 +0200, Martin wrote in message
>
> > > I read in german Linux-Magazin t
"in progress"
architectures?
(Other than me keeping hurd-i386 and converting my debian lan mirror
to a devuan mirror)
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best cas
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:09:49 +, Miroslav wrote in message
<20170627120949.wyhvph3uxrrpxhtr@gdOv>:
> On 170627-11:06+0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:56:24 -0400, zap wrote in message
> > <505f058b-0fe3-16b2-157d-352d4d56b...@posteo.de>:
>
ed upon in Utah 'n Delaware? ;o)
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..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.
___
Dng m
ye to
> Debian and hello to Devuan, at least for the time being.
>
> Thanks,
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..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.
___
oxy
litigation in Utah and Delaware courts to try (get away from failing
to) defeat the GPLv2, if I can believe my own estimate from my
http://groklaw.net experience.
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..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 01:19:50 +0200, metux IT consult wrote in message
<a37858a2-d3c5-c206-763e-2f0acc07b...@gr13.net>:
> On 27.06.2017 11:06, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > ..there's hope, it would take holding the systemd fanbois
> > to the same standards as the 'clowns' a
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:26:46 -0700, Bruce wrote in message
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:43:29 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20170627204329.gw28...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
>
> > ..the GPLs does not require showing BSD-style cred fly-by screens,
>
> FWIW, the grsecurity/PaX people had no such aspirati
comcastbusiness.net. and mirror.ntmm.org
up at 89.253.70.139, but packages.devuan.org is down for aptitude,
it does respond to ping at 46.105.191.77 and responds fine to web
browsers.
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..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his anc
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:08:48 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
<2fab2208-e0dc-27f5-dd3d-f9d7156bb...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> Arnt Karlsen wrote on 26/04/17 11:18:
> > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:49:06 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
> > <be1216c5-c463-a069-b1e4-f405ee658...@
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:52:58 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
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>
>
> Arnt Karlsen wrote on 26/04/17 17:26:
> > On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:08:48 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
> > <2fab2208-e0dc-27f5-dd3d-f9d7156bb...@gmail
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:06:53 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
<039e14e4-8f63-878a-5878-0e01bcb57...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> Arnt Karlsen wrote on 26/04/17 22:01:
> > On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:52:58 +1000, Ralph wrote in message
> > <d67b7404-6f6b-0cff-bca3-a4582ab9d...@gmail
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:24:19 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20170424152419.gu14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 05:10:35PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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> [cut]
>
> >
> > ..we don't warn them before we drop them online on wired networks
>
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