Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

Hi Jonathan, Shell-based command access to software like Powerpoint would indeed be great. But I wonder if we can raise the bar a bit and consider an approach that could serve the largest audience. Especially users who themselves aren't developers or programmers. It seems to me such a

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands (was: Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same

Hi Hendrik, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:32:00PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: As a rule of thumb, developers should always use the smallest possible amount of dependencies for a project, and clearly separate layers

Re: [Dng] vdev status update (May 25 2015)

Hi Anto, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Anto arya...@chello.at wrote: On 25/05/15 18:29, Jude Nelson wrote: Hey everyone, I have the latest news for vdev: . snip . Thoughts and feedback to the above welcome :) -Jude Thanks a lot Jude for all your efforts. Since you put

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Yves yve...@tpg.com.au wrote: Frankly, I find this video simply inappropriate, unnecessary and inflammatory. Just my 2 cents. If you do not like his code. Just make do without the code. Damn I find this distasteful!! Agreed. On 31 May 2015 1:51:01

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

Hi Jonathan, Yes I know, I was trolling. But it was a friendly troll. See, I included a hash at the end of my email. Here is my Proof-of-Troll(tm) that matches that hash: echo Sorry but I couldn't resist trolling you here. :) Still intrigued by your file-system based widget idea,

Re: [DNG] [Dng] vdev status update: device properties and udev compatibility

Hi Isaac, On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 04:40:33PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 25/06/2015 07:04, Jude Nelson a écrit : In time, it will also work the busybox tools, but I am still working on getting busybox's blkid

[Dng] vdev status update (May 25 2015)

Hey everyone, I have the latest news for vdev: * Added support for /dev/snd/by-id symlinks (thanks Jack L. Frost aka openfbt!) * Merged support for static linking vdev, building a libvdev.a archive file, and building vdev with non-GNU libc (thanks Didier Kryn!) * Added support for optionally

Re: [Dng] vdev status update (May 25 2015)

Hi Hendrik, On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:29:12PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: ... What I'm working on going is the following: * fork runfs to create eventfs, a RAM-backed userspace filesystem that looks and smells

Re: [Dng] Suggestion for vdev

Hi James, Apologies for the late reply--things have been busy at work lately. I'd be happy to add an OpenRC init script :) I opened an issue for it here: https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/issues/27 Also, a BSD-style init script would be nice at some point (

[DNG] vdev status update: performance, bugfixes, and udev events

Hey everyone, I have the latest news for vdev: * [EXPERIMENTAL] Vdevd now has actions and helpers that will cause it to generate and propagate device events to libudev-compat clients. Libudev-compat clients should receive hotplug events as they would have with libudev, and they should be able to

Re: [DNG] Congratulations to the Devuan team

Thank you everyone for your kind words about vdev! I apologize for not posting much about it for the past few weeks. I had been on vacation earlier, and now almost all of my spare time between getting back and September 12 is taken up by finishing up my PhD thesis and gearing up for a conference

Re: [DNG] Can dracut use vdev?

Hi Steve, I've never tried it with dracut; all of my efforts have been getting it to work with Debian's initramfs tools. I don't know how tightly coupled dracut is to udev, but it's worth investigating at some point :) -Jude On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:09 PM, James Powell james4...@hotmail.com wrote: Eventually, and I kinda realized this, work may be needed to write a udisks replacement for vdev that can work off vdev without loosing functionality to udisks using applications and file managers, especially for

Re: [DNG] Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?

If I was able to understand correctly, vdev works with dbus. Vdev does not use dbus. No idea how or why you came to this conclusion. Search the code if you don't believe me. -Jude ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] The figure of commits behind the upstream on github

Hi Anto, [snip] does anybody have any suggestion how to easily find out that our fork repositories need updating without keep checking the upstream repositories? You're going to have to pull changes upstream periodically. That's just the way git is designed--if you're not hosting the

Re: [DNG] GTK (was Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?)

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:30 PM, T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, July 23, 2015 08:22:55 PM Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Teodoro Santoni wrote: ... but, yeah, it's outside the scope of Devuan. D-Bus just sucks and is documented on

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:47:13PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I've heard that wayland will require systemd. SteveT I have to apologize, Steve. When I

Re: [DNG] Is Jude Nelson OK?

I'm alive, barely. Not only am I working on my thesis, but also I work at a start-up based on my thesis's technology, and I've had to spend the past few weeks preparing for a conference at which I'm presenting this week. I haven't even had time to answer emails :( Shraptor: I've seen your

Re: [DNG] Packaging vdev

Hi aitor_czr, On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:25 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > I uploaded fskit to gitlab: > > https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/fskit/tree/gbp-master > That's a very outdated version of fskit. The latest one (the one consistent with vdev) is in github:

Re: [DNG] OT: Degree?

ing to know these people is a good way to get a professional network started :) They can also help guide you on your future career choices, and even help you get jobs with them. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jude Nelson <jud...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Mitt, > > Questions: >>

Re: [DNG] OT: Degree?

Hi Mitt, Questions: > 1) Are there many people without degrees in the industry? > Most software engineers I know have at least a minor in computer science, but have at least a BS or BA in some engineering discipline if they don't have a BS/BA in computer science. I have met a few really

Re: [DNG] What's /dev/bus/usb?

/dev/bus/usb/* are USB devices, organized by the kernel-assigned USB bus number and USB device number (i.e. /dev/bus/usb/$USB_BUS_ID/$USB_DEVICE_ID). This includes not only USB devices like mice and Web cameras, but also USB hubs and controllers. Vdev creates the /dev/bus/usb/* device files as

Re: [DNG] vdev status update: eventfs

icularly tricky is creating the packaging scripts needed to replace udev automatically, but without rendering the host unbootable if something goes wrong. Thanks, Jude On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:20 AM, vmlinux <vmli...@charter.net> wrote: > Great news! Thank you for all your efforts! > >

[DNG] vdev status update: eventfs

Hey everyone, I promise, I'm not dead :) I've been working on vdev off and on over the past couple months as time permitted, but I haven't had anything interesting to report here (mostly bug fixes, which are tracked on the project's Github [1]). This past week I've been able to spend more time

Re: [DNG] vdev status update: eventfs

Hi shraptor, On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, shraptor <shrap...@bahnhof.se> wrote: > On 2015-09-23 17:14, Jude Nelson wrote: > >> @shraptor >> >>> So how to get eventfs going with vdev. >>> ./eventfs /run/udev >>> or where should eventfs b

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

> Isn't the initial identification of network adapters and assignment originally handled by the Kernel or is this another urban myth that I have mistakenly hung on to? Yes--network interfaces are given a monotonically-increasing sequence number as they are enumerated (e.g. the X in ethX and

Re: [DNG] Error building vdev

The vdev_subprocess error comes from trying to build vdevfs, an optional add-on to vdev that is still under development and has not bee sync'ed with some recent changes to the rest of the codebase. You can avoid building it with no loss of functionality. The only things you'll need to build to

Re: [DNG] That one unsupported app: was Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

> > OpenBSD's overall stance on virtualization makes it a poor choice for a > desktop OS unfortunately. I partially understand the reasoning, however, > given the limits of software support on the *BSDs in general, and OpenBSD > in particular, the lack of virtualization options effectively makes

Re: [DNG] That one unsupported app: was Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Dave Turner < dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk> wrote: > All the BSDs have the packages I want and need, except working WiFi for > laptops! > My main desktop is an old Intel iMac. FreeBSD and PC-BSD would not install. > I could not get sound to work on

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