of the spectrum...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The wisdom of the wise,
and the experience of ages,
may be preserved by quotation.
-- Benjamin Disraeli
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:53:01 -0800
Usspookes Lovesystemd usspookslovesyste...@muchomail.com wrote:
FUCK YOU
Qu'en termes gracieux ces choses là sont dites...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Animals can be driven crazy by putting too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:04:06 +0100
Wolfgang Pirker w_pir...@gmx.de wrote:
Some other XFCE users might prefer the classical
XFCE application menu.
I do ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Women should be obscene and not absurd.
-- Groucho
the entire knowledge-base on the web
(potentially) available for users so they can troubleshoot problems outside of
network connectivity, even if they haven't a clue what an ESSID is.
It should be easy to ship Devuan with a Wicd icon on the desktop...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Democracy
, the reason people originally bought graphic
cards (Hercules IIRC) was to get some graphic display posibility, in days when
the PC could only display text in MDA mode...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The moment the slave resolves that he will no longer be a slave,
his fetters fall. He frees
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:47:18 +0200
Anto arya...@chello.at wrote:
There are a lot more packages that depend on systemd components on
wheezy-backports. That is why I decided to downgrade all packages to
wheezy and removed wheezy-backports from my source.list.
Thanks, Anto.
Cheers,
Ron
://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main
Am I safe from a systemd infection ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
We'll cross that bridge
when we come back to it later.
-- http://www.olgiati
million killed by the Nazi did not happen,
and that they are all G.W.Bush-hating Democrats...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Puella Rigensis ridebat
Quam tigris in tergo vehebat;
Exsterna profecta
learned
over the years to keep our boxes running suddenly become unusable, no ?
And suddenly everyone has to buy support from RH...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds;
and the pessimist fears this is true
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:11:55 +0200
toto titi voidtothete...@gmail.com wrote:
Nearly as complex as a Microsoft operating system, look at that :
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/
Please, Sir, could we have a registry ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
No Husband Has Ever Been
are dead keen on a forum, at least please go for one of those that are
ambivalent, and can be accessed as a forum as well as distribute all postings
as emails.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest
is that OK ? that pops up if such
install in found needed, and we should all be in agreement.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A poet who reads his verse in public
may have other nasty habits.
--Lazarus Long
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:25:42 -0300
hellekin helle...@dyne.org wrote:
the official Devuan network installer should not, IMO, support this case. It
is not against users, but against manufacturers.
So you want to punish users, for the sins of manufacturers ?
Cheers,
Ron
to infect
their product with systemd dependencies...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Withholding information is the essence of tyranny.
Control of the flow of information is the tool of the dictatorship.
-- Bruce Coville
of this...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There's no trick to being a humorist
when you have the whole government working for you.
-- Will Rogers
-- http://www.olgiati
If I wanted my users to use sudo, I would install them *ubuntu...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Schroedinger thought inside the box.
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
___
Dng
on
the mailinglist and in the irc channels indicate a desire to make the
init system just another choice.
Should the choice be offered within Devuan ?
Or should we tell people who want systemd You have the choice of installing
Debian ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A team effort is a lot
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:
Or, as in APL, use = for assignment
Sorry, read use A (left arrow) 1 2 3 4 for assignment
Cheers,
Ron.
--
And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing
what
choice is to use := for assignment and == for
equality. Forget about = altogether.
Or, as in APL, use = for assignment and = for equality (all in one line ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing
what the dictionary says it means
arrow symbol) (b + c)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Animals can be driven crazy by putting too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily does this to himself.
-- Lazarus Long
know, and that could be
anything from improperly updated software like Bash, to SSH, to anything.
Or even getting credentials through phishing ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
...Nessun maggior dolore,
Che ricordarsi del tempo felice
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:38:43 +0200
Franco Lanza next...@nexlab.it wrote:
traditionally UNIX has vi, this is why i'm suggesting it.
Except that Debian does not have it when a boot prob sends you to the rescue
console ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Il est plus honteux de se défier de ses amis
) ?
Cheers,
Ron.
1 As in beer
2 As in speech
--
Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
-- Publius Vergilius Maro
-- http://www.olgiati-in-
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:03:00 +0100
Edward Bartolo edb...@gmail.com wrote:
The plague has come, but not in the form of a deadly bacterium, but in
the new trend of, sacrificing function for fashion.
Or the megalomaniac We are Systemd of Borg, resistance is futile...
Cheers,
Ron
for all; doing otherwise would bloat the
> > interfaces file for the sole sake of this description.
> That makes sense - provided that it's still possible to manually add entries
> which fall into that other 1%.
I hope so, since my home LAN is all fixed IP addresses. ;-3)
Chee
ub2
So that my / partition gets mounted as /dev/sda1
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There is no such thing as an ugly woman;
there are only the ones who do not know
how to make themselves attractive.
--
ed the citation. This means that the citation is left only
> because the author is too lazzy to cut it.
>
> Hence top-post, should be replaced by no citation at all. And when
> citation is usefull, please use bottom-post.
In other words: TRIM YOUR PO
Abend 0C7 (or 0CB) anyone ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Physics is like sex:
sure, it may give some practical results,
but that's not why we do it.
be heard and understood...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily.
All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
(Hurting yourself is not sinful -- just stupid).
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:02:49 -0500
Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
> And an advantage of mutt is that it does *not* automatically open html or
> other non-plain-text files on you/
Neither does Claws-Mail, unless you have added the respective add-ons.
C
he can
> state that in his reply.
That may be linked to your reluctance to bother with trimming the posts you
reply to.
There is no need to quote the entire original post...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Death to all fanatics.
rom
another distribution that used PCManfm as default, Thunar annoyed me so much
that I removed it completely.
It may have had to do with thunar refusing to recognize mime-types.
So the solution was:
# rm /usr/bin/thunar && ln -s /usr/bin/pcmanfm /usr/bin/thunar
Cheers,
Ron.
--
ink Thunar to be a piece of
excrement...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
-- B. Franklin
-- http://www
nt by the ID so
> it might look like /mnt/usb-Generic_Flash_Disk_0FEAEC2F-0:0-part1
> and /mnt/usb-Generic_Flash_Disk_0FEAEC2F-0:0-part2?
My two-pence worth: If the partition has a label, use that and mount at
/media/label
(Why /mnt ?)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
We can complain bec
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 22:22:36 +0100
Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some restrictions on the unique-lable length should be put in place
> not to end up with very long combersome drive names.
USB drive are commonly vfat, which limits labels to 11 characters...
C
l be more geek-like than the average Debian user, and will be know
how to find and install whatever package they need which is not installed by
default.
So I would suggest we keep the default install as small as possible.
And since I dont have any holidays, Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all.
R
mounted ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Selre bið æghwæe þæt he hsi freond wrece, þonne he fella murne.
-- Beowulf
-- http://www.olgiati-in-
irst choice, since I'm already very familiar with debian.
Have you considered IPFire ? It is a firewall distribution, derived from IPCop,
and they have a stable 2.15 release that runs on the RaspberryPI B (NOT B+) and
an Alpha 2.17 that runs on the B+.
http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/hardware
a starting point for a related websearch.
Simple enough to change this into:
user@devuan:~$ echo "xfce4-session" >> ~/.xinitrc
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The world really isn't any worse.
It's just that the news coverage is so much better.
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:55:27 +
hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote:
> I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also callable by `beammeup` or `beam [me]
> up [Scotty]`
I dont want to be beamed "up Scotty" ...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
As long
On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:50:46 +0100
aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote:
> Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.
In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ? ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Kilroe
lable in jessie), but it
> couldn't even see the camera. The only way I have been able to access the
> camera is through the thunar file manager at this address (which is in need
> of some translation):
Did you try gThumb ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The plural of
# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/40nosuggestrecommends
Apt::Install-Suggests false;
Apt::Install-Recommends false;
Cheers,
Ron.
--
They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safe
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:12:26 +0200
Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> wrote:
> but yes, its definitely not polite nor useful to obfuscate code that
> people uses.
No need to obfuscate when you program in Iverson's APL ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
There are three
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:04:07 +0100
Jochen Fahrner <j...@fahrner.name> wrote:
> The next step after "no systemd" should be "no gnome".
Move from Gtk to Qt ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You're only young once,
bu
it,
> and when I restart it offers to reestablish all ite tabs it had
> before, and after that procedure it's usable again. Memory leak
> perhaps?
I found that at times, when some sites like Facebook are opened in a tab,
Firefox sometimes uses up 100% of cpu as reported by
olored "TOR" icon on your iPhone
> is that the Jackboots can easily see it and know you're using it. But if
> *EVERYONE* has it on their phone, it's no longer nearly as useful for
> identifying people of interest.
Is it that difficult to change the icon,
the
> sockets into which the windings are plugged: This technology is called
> socket activation. The transmission drives the chain, which drives the
> front wheel.
A chain-driven front-wheel-drive noddy bike ? The mind boggles...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Nous avons tous assez
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:59:29 -0400
Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
> Have things changed?
ISTR that they changed between Android 4 and Android 5; my 4 tablet mounted
directly, while for my daughter's 5 phone I had to install some packages.
Chee
ment is still true.
>
> The workaround given that time was to make a image of the whole device, make
> that image immutable, and mount the partions of that image.
Would mounting as ext2 (non journaling) help in that case ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Everyone talks a
put DHCP server on this computer
>
> 8) Verify lookup of devuan.org
> a) If not, run some intelligent diagnostic software
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad.
-- Leo Rosten, on W.C. Fields
all without having to go and
hunt firmwares under the excuse that they are not open source, open-source
talibans are doing exactly what they condemn in the systemd talibans: both take
away from the user his liberty of choice.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
L'homme ne peut
nly, I'll try yes. Different strokes. You'll never get
> nonfree software, and I'll have maximal chance of getting an
> installation running.
Ready to bet the open-source talibans will find all kinds of excuses not to do
this.
They clam to be for freedom of choice, but some are as
ofit from it during that time.
Introduced to make research economically viable.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Der Gedanke an den Selbstmord ist ein starkes Trostmittel:
Mit ihm kommt man gut über manche böse Nacht hinweg.
-- Friedrich
lable to all, on
the Internet.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Caelum, non animum mutant
qui trans mare currunt.
-- Horace
-- http://www.olgiati-in-
ISTR having seen a mention of this go past, I now have a Raspberry Pi, and
cannot find where to download it ;-3(
Does it still exist ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Toddlers are the stormtroopers
of the Lord of Entropy
nd
> therefore which one to consider defective and not use?
>
> Do I need to wipe the missing drive completely before I connect it?
> (I have another machine to do this on, using a USB-to-SATA interface).
Picked up from somewhere, and used a couple times already. Long !
Cheers
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:21:58 +0100
KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote:
>
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/embedded/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_arm64_raspi3.img.xz
Would it run on the RP-2 ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Physics
to use systemd.
The choice exists already: the user can either use systemd running Debian, or
not use it running Devuan.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
When a woman marries again it is because she detested her first husband.
When a man marries again, it is because he adored
nned, like ballot, crashing the system
> is not a big deal; which matters is to not deliver a wrong result.
> Better crash than give a wrong result.
In other words, always fail safe.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The world really isn't any worse.
It's just that th
ever forget that any complex system will work most of the time in
partial-failure mode...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Tout homme bien portant peut se passer de manger
pendant deux jours - de poésie, jamais.
-- Charles Baudelaire
www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/22/devuan_1_0_0_released/
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is only by reducing people of flesh and blood to a mere idea
that one can ignore the will of the majority in the name of democracy
and institute a dictatorship in the name of freedom
th
> that in place of Adblock (any variant).
Have you considered rolling your own add-blocking with a list of unwanted sites
in /etc/hosts ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Laugh and the world laughs with you,
snore and you sleep alone.
as he has to know whether it is a unix/linux system or a
systemd system, the two being rather different in their management...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Eat drink and be merry,
for tomorrow we may diet.
ideal world, software would have *no* bugs ;-)
>
> > - easy maintainability
> > - fast development
> > - what else?
>
> Software would be Free as in freedom.
Documentation ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The difference between science and the fuzz
he not take a hint ?
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
-- Wm. Shakespeare
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Linux: want to know why my computer works.
Macs: don't want to know why my computer works.
DO
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:24:31 +0200
Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much
> less has it as the default.
Could it be because Gnome have sold their immortal souls to Systemd ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:35:55 +0200
Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> And they had no souls even late in Gnome2 days,
> before systemd was even a glimmer in Lennart's eye.
which probably made it easier for the Evil One to take them under his thrall...
C
he
accuracy.
Sad to say, but why would you read a translation into Latin when you can read
one int French or English ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
News is the mother of opinion,
opinion the cause of mass-delusion,
delusion the s
to use a delete button.
My experience on other highly technical lists (Model Engineering, Steam
railways, etc is that we get those OT threads from time to time, mainly when a
list is slow-moving, and they resolve themselves very quickly when on-topic
posts come back in higher numbers.
Cheers,
People,
Please stop replying, just apply the Del key.
Because unless the list gnomes apply the cluestick (or worse), nothing will
stop those who want to continue with their OT rants, self-righteously claiming
they can do so because someone else also did.
Cheers,
Ron
ely,
> the same sentiment in _good_ Latin is opaque to my countrymen who aren't
> Latin-proficient, which would impair the joke.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... ;-3)
Ave atque vale,
Ron.
--
-- http://www.ol
intage EeePC, an
the firewall for the house LAN is a Pentium II running IPCop.
Is it a coincidence that my three cars are a 1997 Citroën Berlingo, a 1979
Mercedes W123 300D, and a 1971 Cotroën 2CV, not to mention a 1981 250ES MZ m/c ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
When I am working on a problem, I never
ost: my time...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You can make it illegal,
but you can't make it unpopular.
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 16:44:40 +0200
Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> Current parts you get from electronish rubbish are some i5 models, or Core
> Duo if your rubbish pool is that old.
Remember, I live in Darkest Paraguay, our technorubbish is not all that
advanced...
C
ted-sun-tzu-art-of-war-quotes/
Cheers,
Ron.
--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
what you have just found out.
-- Will Rogers
-- htt
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500
Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote:
> fate accompli
"Fate"
is very apposite in the circumstance
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is a typically Hohenzollern idea to believe that it is a crime
for a country to defend itself after its army
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:36:40 -0500
Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote:
> > > fate accompli
> > "Fate"
> > is very apposite in the circumstance
> One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever!
> :-)
And me thinking it
tandard deviations away from the mean, this gives us 5.6 idiots born
every minute ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn.
-- http://www.olgia
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 01:38:00 +1200
Daniel Reurich <dan...@centurion.net.nz> wrote:
> It implies
> having "net.ifnames=1" in the kernel cmdline to get the "enp0s3"-like
> scheme and not touching anything to get the "eth0" scheme.
+1
Cheers,
Ron.
re
buggered...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
All that is necessary for the forces of evil to triumph
is for enough good men to do nothing.
-- Edmund Burke
-- http:/
ven before the steam engine was invented.
'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short' come to mind
Cheers,
Ron.
--
It is inexcusable for scientists to torture animals;
let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:21:17 +
rain...@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
> 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla".
Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war; re-read
Hans Hellmut Kirst.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:32:52 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:
> > 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla".
> Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war;
> re-read Hans Hellmut Kirst.
S
> decides to move a file there when you say to delete it):
>
> $ chmod 000 ~/.local/share/Trash
>
> (If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer and set it immutable. ;-> )
Or ln to /dev/null
Cheers,
Ron.
--
What really flatters a man
On Sat, 27 May 2017 23:04:13 +0200
info at smallinnovations dot nl <i...@smallinnovations.nl> wrote:
> Nice if you missed it otherwise annoying. Thunar puts deleted files
> there, at least on my system with XFCE4 it does.
One more reason to drop Thunar and use Pcmanfm ;-3)
C
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something.
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:17:05 -0400
Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
> The only one I have an idea what it's for is sane-utils. Presumably
> access to scanners.
I believe that one is for accessing the scanner over a network.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
purity. Debuan is
> built to protect your choices, not to rule some of them out for political
> rather than technical causes.
The only interesting information would be: "Is it possible to install and run
Gnome without having installed systemd ?"
Cheers,
Ron.
--
...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ?
What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the Devuan
repositories ?
Will the older versions still run ? Or will the upgrade remove them ?
Or, if they have no systemd dependencies, can I install the Debian Jessie
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:02:37 +0200
Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote:
> Is there some published procedure to install Gnome in Devuan 8/9 ?
>
> I need this to migrate desktop users from Debian & Ubuntu.
For a recent version of Gnome:
1- Install systemd
...
Finally taking the plunge, and upgrading following Dev1fanboy's howto on
https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan
Cheers,
Ron.
--
My karma just ran over your dogma.
-- http
> Oh dear, were they really *short*? Jeez, how happy I am not to have lived
> in those awful times!
All those adjectives, which come from a quote of Thomas Hobbes (1588 – 1679)
refer not to people, but to their lives in preceding ages...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Gli nomini si de
al times a week.
In around ten years of use I have never had the problem of USB/NIC assignment
changing at reboot, except when I had to replace a burnt-out USBtoRJ45 ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
To succeed, planning alone is insufficient.
One must im
t; replied that happily he could do anything for his daughter he wished on
> his _own_ systems, but that his daughter wouldn't be plugging USB
> devices into my servers, so I wasn't especially interested in helping
> her there.
I forgot to precise that the three USBtoRJ4
what to run from the CLI ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
America may be unique in being a country which has leapt
from barbarism to decadence without touching civilization.
-- John O'Hara
Two niggles:
Is there a way to get rid of, or disable, keyring ? could not find the package
that provides it.
When I launch EasyABC, which worked under Wheezy this morning, I now get:
ron@ron:~/Desktop $ easyabc
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/easyabc/easy_abc.py&q
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:00:22 +0200
Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote:
> 3. Why not?
Because all recent versions of Gnome are infected with the systemd pox.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
A society that puts equality over freedom
will not get any
What does Gnome offer, that XFCE lacks ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Democracy is also a form of worship.
It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses.
-- H. L. Mencken
]
libsystemd0/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64
live-config-systemd/stable 4.0.4-1 all
python3-systemd/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64
systemd-cron/stable 1.3.1+ds1-2 all
systemd-dbg/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64
systemd-gui/stable 1:3-2 all
systemd-shim/stable 9-1 amd64
systemd-ui/stable 3-2 amd64
Cheers,
Ron
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