Re: [DNG] Lightweight media/video player

t;, or stuff outside the core competency of a music player. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

doing, but they still have fire extinguishers with which to put out any fires. When the downside is severe enough, safety measures are called for regardless of the skill of the operator. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.tr

[DNG] Wifi device names: was systemd is haunting me

the first wifi device reported by ip link, 2 gets the second, and so on. If your argument is greater than the number of wifi devices, it just reports the last one reported by ip link. So regardless of how crazy your wifi device naming gets, you can put your device's name in a simple and memorable

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

and check out my apps: == [slitt@mydesk ~]$ uname -a Linux mydesk 4.3.3_2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 23 07:55:09 UTC 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux [slitt@mydesk ~]$ firefox -v Mozilla Firefox 43.0.4 [slitt@mydesk ~]$ ====

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

use it too. > > +1 > > Aitor. That was my first thought too, and I almost wrote it. But then I started to think: If it were called nm-devuan, that would certainly let people know that Devuan is more than just a few malcontents playing whack-a-mole with Debian and Freedesktop. St

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

ly while searching the internet. Yes, > trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move. > > What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > > > Thanks to all Trolls. > Your feedback is much appreciated. :D What trolls? I haven't seen a troll in

[DNG] The first FreeDesktop bicycle accessory

their regular hand pumps or CO2 devices. Those people: * are afraid of change. * are neckbeards. * want to tell bicycle designers how to do their jobs but won't contribute. * are whingers. * just don't understand the benefits of an integrated pump. * are too lazy to learn something new. SteveT Steve

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

convinced the world that only geniuses could use CLI, and all of a sudden you were a neckbeard if you used CLI. Then Redhat jumped on the bandwagon. [snip] > It would be great cooperation to have one group to hack on > the DE stuff, while leaving the Devuan core developers free > to conc

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

I could read the screen. There's a special place in hell for people who assume everyone has their precise visual acuity. 9point lightgray font on darkgray backgrounds. 8 point on a transparent background. I know what you mean. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: Th

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

ELY NOT accelleration: That leads to golf game mousing. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

o JWM help is hard to find. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

on and off? Hotkey to close a window (Alt+F4 sucks in my opinion) Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org

[DNG] A Philosophy: was Runlevels:

s of a very observant person: = sometimes you just have to accept that some edge cases don't work very well - but it's better to have to fudge around those than to make the entire world suboptimal to cater for them. ===== SteveT Steve Litt

Re: [DNG] Apparently Jessie has runit

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 21:20:26 -1000 Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:23:10 + > > Rainer Weikusat <rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com> wrote: > > > > > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> writes:

[DNG] The Stone Truth: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

eir employer, are much more likely to understand and live by KatolaZ' sentence. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailingli

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

it. Nice! Thanks for that tip! > > - files are open on single click (double click in Thunar), > though this is a personal preference. I wouldn't want that for Thunar, but somehow, in rox I like it :-) SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Tw

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

tion of systemd. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

always be aiming to be able to depoetterize *today's* Linux, we'd always be chasing the tail of the latest systemd architectural conquest, and we'd never output a usable product. Once we consider motivation, we're better able to guess where Linux will be in six months, and aim for that spot rather th

Re: [DNG] Apparently Jessie has runit

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:34:31 -1000 Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 21:20:26 -1000 > > Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > > > How complicated is it to

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

I'd imagine the average user would rather the package manager be more conservative in installing dependencies. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

my laptop, only to discover it was in an ssh session to my main computer where I didn't want to delete anything, I always use different color terminals for ssh sessions and for root sessions. Roxterm's file based "profiles" make it trivial to have as many of those as you want. Priceless! St

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:26:57 -1000 Joel Roth <jo...@pobox.com> wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:20:10 +0100 > > Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:02:17AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

an't (AFAIK) boot modern windows with an MBR disk, and you must have a functional Windows to maintain your ability to access warranty parts replacement. With old laptops, I just jettison the Windows and mbr format the disk; heck, I have no warranty anyway. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016

Re: [DNG] Apparently Jessie has runit

<devuanfan...@startmail.com> wrote: > Yes devuan has it, I was thinking about trying it but I think people > are on their own for init scripts with runit. > > On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:31 PM, Steve Litt > <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > >

Re: [DNG] Apparently Jessie has runit

t; Very likely. Except that with systemd it's going to have a lot > obfuscated in C. Just in case I wasn't clear enough: Although I don't like sysvinit and OpenRC, my problems with them pale in comparison to my problems with the everything-welded-together, no-user-servicea

Re: [DNG] Apparently Jessie has runit

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:23:10 + Rainer Weikusat <rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com> wrote: > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> writes: > > People aren't completely alone on run scripts: I can give them any > > run scripts I'm using. Also, Runit run scripts are

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

ary? If the function name can address that, perhaps it can be self documenting. Otherwise, there's no shame in putting a few lines of comments above the function, and personally I'd put an inline comment on that *buf &= ~0x20; trick. Or you could make a macro called upcase_first_letter() that does tha

[DNG] Self documenting code

Hi all, Rainer's question brings up the concept of self-documenting code. Here's an essay I wrote on the subject almost 2 decades ago: http://troubleshooters.com/tpromag/199908/index.htm SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http

Re: [DNG] Does dunst require dbus?

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:10:31 +0100 Florian Zieboll <f.zieb...@web.de> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:09:23 -0500 > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > > different color terminals for > > ssh sessions > > I had played a bit with t

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

(e.g. with BTFS, GPT, RAID). If someone want to > develop this nice software further, please let me know ..." > > So I assume lilo has stopped development altogether from the last > release, and we can look forward to only having the more complex > grub2. This sucks. SteveT

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

unauthorizedly change the already compiled version and hope nothing overrides it. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailing

[DNG] Beware

Beware: http://www.networkworld.com/article/3023447/security/linux-zero-day-affects-most-androids-millions-of-linux-pcs.html SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28

[DNG] Apparently Jessie has runit

. No backgrounding necessary (or desired). Have fun experimenting. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:20:10 +0100 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:02:17AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Grub is the systemd of bootloaders. It's all about pretty colors, > > nice images, and hiding the fact that processes are b

[DNG] Systemd best practices

or systemd? = The answer, of course, is that the best practice is to convert to Devuan. SteveT Steve Litt January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 _

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

ed. Merge when it > works. Release when "perfect" (the last one should be really > considered with a pinch of salt :P). When a version is a release, don't you just give it a tag? SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Avoid 'git commit -m ...' every time code is tested after editing.

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 10:06:35 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 09:35:55PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > Commit often. Branch whenever needed needed. Merge when it > > > works. Release

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

Suckless Init, or even Rich Felker's init. The crux of his article is stated more succinctly by Rich Felker himself: http://ewontfix.com/14/ I agree 100% with https://busybox.net/~vda/init_vs_runsv.html, although we all agree that right now it would be silly for Devuan to init with anything but sysvinit

Re: [DNG] Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit

atever) dies or is killed AND all the gettys also die, one loses all control of the computer and must hardware reboot, and that's a bad thing. My opinion is that although this is indeed a bad thing, I'm willing to risk it to get the breathtaking simplicity of Rich Felker's vision in http://ewontfix

[DNG] Are you still paranoid if you turned out to be right?

at tycoons are beginning to wonder whether they can forever fight Devuan and the other sans-systemd distros who can keep depoetterizing for free. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ D

Re: [DNG] Wifi device names: was systemd is haunting me

FSF. I don't do that because I've been self-employed since 1982. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 18, Issue 42

e Software, you're right and I apologize for misunderstanding the situation. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Is Devuan Jessie secure enough?

number, I think good personal hygiene like always making sure it's https and not clicking on links from unknown senders makes more of a difference than the exact distro you're using. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Busine

[DNG] Where to get beta?

it?). SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Networking, dependencies, restarting

ather than building ever more IF statements into ever huger init scripts, why not document a few skeleton shellscripts that can be custom modified to do *exactly* what's needed in the (presumably sophisticated) user's case? SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Ow

Re: [DNG] Making sense of C pointer syntax.

ing allocates sizeof(int) bytes, for number_of_people, off the stack. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] suspend and hybernate

Hi all, What's the difference between suspend and hybernate? How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up" the computer when I'm ready to use it again? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 fea

Re: [DNG] suspend

y make a sound? If a troll trolls on a list, but everybody's got him piped to /dev/null, did he really troll? There's a certain beauty in that philosophy. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

ke sure to continue never to write anything false on a Wikipedia page (Poettering doesn't work for NSA, and he's not nearly as handsome as the donkey). SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] LOL, Policykit

Hi all, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/01/msg00209.html Oh those merry pranksters at FreeDesktop.Org! I guess they've never heard of groups and permissions. And when you say "sudo" to a guy from FreeDesktop.org, he says "gesundheit". SteveT Steve Litt Apri

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:01:57 + hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote: > On 03/17/2016 07:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Where can I download Devuan's beta? > > > > In the near future, as Mitt suggested ;o), > from https://devuan.org/ and

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

thoritative person when it comes to package managers, but if I've understood what I've heard others, the preceding pretty much sums up what to do. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz __

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 15:26:49 -0400 Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:05:20 +0100 > aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > By default, PSTAT (a dependency of VDEV) is installed in > > &

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

I agree with Stephanie. If a person wants to run sans-initramfs, we don't want to make it harder for him/her. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:24:48 + Stephanie Daugherty

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

ture? Have those same people broken anything else, by any chance? :-) SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

elony copyright infringement. Nobody should email proprietary software to others, without a written OK from the copyright holder. This kind of request should never be made on any kind of mailing list. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business htt

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

and that isn't choice or user friendly. > > Lighten up there, Steve-O. You're gonna curl your tie. > > SWS Yes. Now that I know it's licensed with the MIT license, I withdraw my warning, and in another post (subject Dng Digest, Vol 18, Issue 42), I apologized. Sorry for my assumption. SteveT

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

sd.slashdot.org/story/16/03/21/0321213/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/ubuntubsd > > And the best part, The code name is: "Escape from systemD" For now. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start

Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED.

'm not surprised. I've always viewed Pulseaudio as a bunch of extra series lightbulbs plugged into your series Christmas Tree light string. Just another set of ways to mute your sound, not all of which are easily discoverable. The only benefits I can see for Pulseaudio are: * Allows centrali

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate] > "DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:0001 > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx] > "DisableGwx"=dword:0001 This thread is offtopic, and is better persued on FreeNode's

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

From what I understand, Wayland is shot through with systemd-isms. Better let that sleeping dog lie. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Claywand dosplay bananager

, so > you don’t have X11 forwarding anymore. If that's true, what a steaming pile of dog excrement! What did they replace X11 forwarding with? (I shudder to ask) SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.trou

Re: [DNG] Devuan Rpi2 Lxde

t the group in sudoers? SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Dependency Hell: was leveldb support proposal

age manager, with its pinnings and exclusions and dependencies and conflicts, not to mention sabotage of packaging by the poetterists and their ilk, installation by directory starts to have its own charm, for certain applications. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday

Re: [DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

ow, so your mileage may vary. Notice I'm running "agetty", not "getty", which is respawned in your inittab. I don't remember ever seeing a Linux (as oppposed to BSD) that ran "getty" instead of "agetty". You might need to change that. Also, seeing whether your g

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

systemd resistance as "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Making sense of C pointer syntax.

Because we're developing software. On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 06:03:13 -0400 Boruch Baum wrote: > Why on this list, of all the possible places in Creation? It's a great > and important topic, but have you found no other, more appropriate > forum? > > On 03/28/2016 02:50 AM,

Re: [DNG] Making sense of C pointer syntax.

\n", *p); printf("p indicates start of string %s\n", p); SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Making sense of C pointer syntax.

ts. Some time compare what it takes to do a callback in C compared to Python, or especially Lua. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] *****SPAM***** Download iso 32bit devuan alpha2 or higher(based installation without network)

esn't become the whole list's problem. For gosh sakes, could you please create an email filter that sends all suspected spam to a spam folder, and not respond to anything in that folder? SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www

Re: [DNG] Making sense of C pointer syntax.

he problem. All I can say is I *never* made that mistake again. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglist

Re: [DNG] Download iso 32bit devuan alpha2 or higher(based installation without network)

kinda like Arch or Gentoo (minus all the compilation)? SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/

Re: [DNG] icedove install-recommends

, I'd recommend going granular and not including it by default. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 11:09:01 +0300 Mitt Green <mitt_gr...@riseup.net> wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lennart_Poettering=703955376 Occupation: Bloatware generator. I would have added: Slogan: Do you hate disabled people ? SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 feat

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:20:49 +0200 richard lucassen <mailingli...@lucassen.org> wrote: > Beware of kernel changes, do not hibernate after a kernel change. Can I safely assume you mean don't hybernate after a new kernel which I've never before booted to? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt A

Re: [DNG] suspend

rson's posts, listen to them, respond to them, trying your best not to perpetuate flame wars. If they bore or anger you, all I ask is instead of flaming the person onlist, you either /dev/null them (this is my choice) or write them privately. That way we won't have constant flame wars, with the attendant constant

Re: [DNG] dropping ballast

\|/ | Y E A H ! / \ _ / \/ / - SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:38:04 +0100 Arnt Gulbrandsen <a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote: > Steve Litt writes: > > I've never been afraid of sounding ignorant, especially when I'm > > right. > > Uhm. > > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

little to do with Devuan or systemd, so it's not something to get worked up about. It's just something to think about. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing lis

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:29:18 -0400 Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:21:50AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:01:33 + > > Stephanie Daugherty <sdaughe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'd

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

same way I did 3 years ago, before Microsoft bought and sabotaged Skype. There's no reason apulse should be part of a default install, but it should be in some Devuan repo (perhaps nonfree or whatever), so that somebody who really needs it can install it. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured boo

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

systemd. 2) Desktops requiring significant systemd-provided software with a non-systemd PID1. 3) Desktops heavily encumbered with systemdisms but still manage to work to some extent with a non-systemd PID1. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

a 1/0. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly

e, that's a fact for anyone willing to do a little research. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 15:36:52 -0400 Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:08:33PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > It seems like everyone in the Devuan community has written his or > > her own usb drive auto

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

l when exchanging sticks. > >Didier Very, very nice! I've been looking for something like that for a long time. Do you happen to know a corresponding utility to read/write the label on an ext4 formatted thumb drive partition? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Lear

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 08:25:02 -0400 fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 04/26/2016 09:32 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:19:32 -0400 > > fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I like pmount for mounting us

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 09:10:25 +0200 Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: > Wishlist: the "automounter" shouldn't mount automatically, by > default. It should rather offer an easy mount-handle, and the umount > counterpart. What is an "easy mount-handle"

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

Okay, I'm open, just something better than > > /mnt/sde7. > > Why not just the Label of the filesystem being mounted? Not all filesystems have labels. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21

Re: [DNG] Tochpad scrolling on devuan

= #!/bin/sh curstate=`synclient | grep -i TouchpadOff | sed -e"s/.*= //"` if test "$curstate" = "1"; then synclient TouchpadOff=0 else synclient TouchpadOff=1 fi = St

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 06:47:38 + Noel Torres <env...@rolamasao.org> wrote: > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> escribió: > > Therefore: pmount, when combined with the inotifywait automounters > > we've all made, should be perfect. > > > > Those

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:22:06 +0200 Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: > Le 27/04/2016 19:17, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 09:10:25 +0200 > > Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: > > > > > >> Wishlist: the "automo

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:35:08 +0200 Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: > Le 27/04/2016 19:13, Steve Litt a écrit : > > Not all filesystems have labels. > For my information, could you list some? Every filesystem I ever > used to format disks had one (ext?,

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:51:54 -0400 Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 07:24:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Another issue is a lot of thumb drives have the same label. I bet > > there are millions with the label "bac

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

user who plugs in the thumb, so rather than running straight from the init, they should probably run when you log in, and if there's already a copy running when you log in, it does nothing. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troublesh

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:43:55 +0300 Mitt Green <mitt_gr...@riseup.net> wrote: > ‎   Steve Litt wrote:‎ > > LXDE and IceWM have pretty much identical user > > interfaces and functionalities, except LXDE has a few > > more peripheral utilities. > > And that is

[DNG] Meaningful and concise posts: was Dng Digest, Vol 19, Issue 76

t batches, but please everyone, don't inconvenience others with meaningless titles and 440 lines of context, most of which has nothing to do with what you're replying to. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

use it's the best initramfs builder utility (from what I understand). But Fedora scooped it up, and IIRC emptied the old version git repositories, so I predict a systemdification in the future. So we shouldn't assume that dracut will always be available to us. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 fe

Re: [DNG] cloud (was: Beta)

the Microsoft variety. Ask "what is the cloud" to ten intelligent people, and you'll get ten different answers. That in itself is reason to call this thing anything but "cloud". Call it Khrushchev or H2O for all I care, but nothing containing "cloud". SteveT

Re: [DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas

On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:59:55 -0400 Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > A guy named Linas Vepstas wrote this essay/rant: > > http://linas.org/?utm_content=buffer5190b > > In response, I wrote this Open Letter to Linas Vepstas at: > >

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