Re: [Dng] About separate mailing lists

2015-02-12 Thread hellekin
On 02/12/2015 06:35 AM, Jaromil wrote: However we have started setting up a listserver with some volunteers and soon or later decisions will be made. Perhaps the first list to be born should one to discuss on how to structure the communication architecture? *** I think we have it

Re: [Dng] recommendation for consideration: keep as close to debian as possible

2015-02-14 Thread hellekin
On 02/14/2015 06:59 PM, Luke Leighton wrote: what i wrote makes the following things very clear: 1) your debian system will not be screwed up or compromised by using devuan. you will also not lose any functionality or packages. *** I guess that really depends on the case: as

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News VII

2015-01-13 Thread hellekin
On 01/13/2015 09:28 AM, Dragan FOSS wrote: *** Jessie without systemd https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150108.222844.f83bac6d.en.html The TRIOS team introduces their semi-rolling Debian Jessie based OS that aims to work without Systemd. It still uses udev at this point. It looks very

Re: [Dng] Use/misuse of depends

2015-01-14 Thread hellekin
On 01/14/2015 07:52 AM, KatolaZ wrote: in some of the cases a Recommend is simply unnecessary (like exim4 recommended by mutt) *** This sounds like a misuse. It should be Suggests. I get the logic of recommending an SMTP server for a mail client, but there are many different implementations

Re: [Dng] Community polls on Devuan design

2015-02-12 Thread hellekin
On 02/12/2015 07:39 AM, Jaromil wrote: hi all the last community curated DWN expresses enthusiasm for a logo design which wasn't included in the poll (because absent from the wiki), *** I want to clear a misunderstanding. I wrote this article in DWN, entirely on my own, and I requested it

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-18 Thread hellekin
Volunteers for package adoption can now head to the [devuan-maintainers][0] project. The [wiki][1] gives instructions to follow for adopting a package from the current [list of base packages][2] that jaromil posted earlier. If you need anything, try #devuan first. == hk [0]:

Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet

2015-03-22 Thread hellekin
Would it be possible to avoid offensive characterization of people who do not think along the same lines? Would it be possible to avoid gender-biased characterization of people who are participating in this list? Thank you == hk ___ Dng mailing list

[Dng] Systemd: it depends -- was Re: release date

2015-03-17 Thread hellekin
On 03/17/15 18:57, Anto wrote: I asked the questions whether Devuan will be really free from systemd and its components? Or will there be trade-off being applied so that some of systemd components will be used in Devuan? *** I'm merely repeating what's been said before, and I'm not ointed by

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-09 Thread hellekin
On 03/09/15 19:26, Christopher Barry wrote: these democratic ideas. Unfortunately, just like in real government, special interests can stack the deck (e.g. dominate committees) and push things that are self serving and maybe not in the best interests of the greater community. *** Welcome

Re: [Dng] [bikeshedding] release names

2015-03-06 Thread hellekin
This thread is not about changing the release names. Read the first message. Do you have time on you hands? Please help review this week's postings for the next weekly news. There's also a TODO list on the gitlab. Seriously...

[Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread hellekin
On 03/06/15 05:06, Neo Futur wrote: the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it, instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official support would be so great!

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
On 03/07/15 14:21, william moss wrote: Cool yes, but useful? Numbers have the huge advantage that everybody knows their order, which is quite important when referring to versions. *** Release *NAMES* never replaced version numbers. Hence Debian 8 Jessie and Devuan 1.0 Jessie. == hk -- _ _

Re: [Dng] [bikeshedding] release names

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
Maybe it's just me but I don't understand what you're contemplating. Why do you think Devuan should use a more complicated set of suites than Debian? Ceres is aliased to `sid`, so it's not testing, but unstable. The way Debian handles testing, code freezes, etc. is not 1:1 with Devuan (or so I

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
On 03/07/15 05:59, JeremyBekka C wrote: how can I get Vagrant to run in Gentoo? *** As mentioned at [0], the way to go is to install it using Rubygems. https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-vagrant == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share

Re: [Dng] greets

2015-03-10 Thread hellekin
On 03/10/15 11:57, Steve Litt wrote: LOL *** Can you expand the acronym? I'm not sure I find anything funny here. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [Dng] [OT] Debian problems with Jesse - was simple backgrounds

2015-03-04 Thread hellekin
On 03/02/15 23:23, Gravis wrote: consider grouping your emails as conversations as it is a wonderful option for organizing mailing list threads. *** Thanks for this, but the topic having drifted a lot: the thread should also have been renamed. If any of you would like to contribute a summary,

Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-03-04 Thread hellekin
On 03/04/15 17:13, x...@openmailbox.org wrote: I'm not a professional artist, but *** You're quite talented :) The monkey looks a bit aggressive, I don't think it needs to be. If you have more sketches, I'd love to see them. Cheers, == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-03-03 Thread hellekin
On 03/03/15 18:38, Isaac Dunham wrote: If I understand correctly, the point of the allusion is that the quest for *one and only one* solution is not desireable. *** Indeed, Isaac, that was my point. It's not just for the IF badges though, but a general principle: we tend to forget about

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XIV - Where no toy has gone before

2015-03-04 Thread hellekin
On 03/04/15 05:07, Gravis wrote: no way, the first has to be dedicated to Lennart! just think *** Someone already coined a term to remove dependencies on his code: depoetterizing. This is not a cult to Lennart P. Just think again. Lenny is a past release, but Devuan is not looking back. ==

[Dng] Doc Devuan

2015-03-01 Thread hellekin
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc group is looking for participants, especially Debianites working with the Debian Documentation Project. So far the existing Debian Manuals repository was imported from the SVN, and available at https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc/debian-manuals

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 09:14, David Harrison wrote: What about an Init Freedom Group? Freedom sounds more postitive to me than 'free of', though it's seen some iffy use in recent years. This kind of thing work at two levels. 'Member/Supporter of', meaning it's a goal or a sponsorship target, or

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 13:40, Go Linux wrote: Urm . . . it's about more than just init and that needs to be conveyed in the badge. *** It says if :) https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/blob/devuan-alpha/graphics/init-freedom/if.png -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 06:08, Jaromil wrote: how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? *** I think some kind of cross-distros work is good. Code sharing will be facilitated with good inter-distros communication. On the one hand, I understand the urge to polarize

Re: [Dng] Kicking the tires on Valentine release

2015-02-25 Thread hellekin
On 02/26/15 00:01, John Morris wrote: A generic devuan user is present, no idea of the password so I set one for both it and root. *** I brute-forced it: my first attempt was 'devuan' and worked ;o) I'm impressed by all the testing you did. You may want to open some issues in the gitlab.

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about Suggest and Recommends dependency?

2015-04-02 Thread hellekin
On 04/02/2015 07:36 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: Personally on debian i was using from date APT:Install-Recommends 0; APT:Install-Suggests 0; What do you think if we make this the default in devuan? *** +1. I'm all for minimalism in Devuan, and encouraging people to use Blends for extended

Re: [Dng] Document on using Qemu for Linux DIY

2015-05-14 Thread hellekin
On 05/14/2015 08:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote: sharing host and guest /tmp/xfer directory via sshfs. *** I use the Plan9 way for sharing folders (per someone's suggestion on the list): https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu#sharing-a-folder-with-the-host == hk --

[Dng] Devuan News, volume 02, issue XXIV

2015-05-13 Thread hellekin
Project. - [Subscribe to the list][subscribe] - [Subscribe to the feed][atom-feed] - [Read online archives][archives] --- Read you soon! Devuan News is made by your peers: you're [welcome to contribute][wiki]! + Created by Noel @Envite Torres + @hellekin (editor at large) + @golinux

[Dng] Devuan financial report

2015-04-16 Thread hellekin
The donations page [0] says Next one is due by the end of March 2015. Did I miss it? == hk [0]: https://devuan.org/donate.html -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

2015-04-11 Thread hellekin
Did you check that the fonts now display correctly (without the userscript)? == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Too many man pages, too much complicated : systemd

2015-04-06 Thread hellekin
On 04/06/2015 04:23 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Second, I can't take all the credit :) Besides the VUA collective (Jaromil, Nextime, Hellekin, and others?), there's also: *** I'm not VUA. They are genuine spaghetti-raised Italians, I'm just an exiled Piemontese from the XVth Century. I can

[Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-03 Thread hellekin
Hello dears, one of the current tasks of the Devuan Editors is to gather facts about the Debian fork in order to write a compelling story to be told on debianfork.org. This domain will hopefully be the place to deflect and defuse any troll about the Debian fork and systemd, in order to focus

Re: [Dng] dev-list

2015-04-08 Thread hellekin
FYI, I've been working on a Discourse instance for Devuan, so that we can have the best of both worlds (email and forum). If this happens, the developers can simply ignore threads they're not interested in and keep focused on work. The forum form is likely to grow beyond what any single person

Re: [Dng] dev-list

2015-04-08 Thread hellekin
On 04/08/2015 07:44 PM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: We got #debianfork and #devuan IRC channels for pretty much the same reasons, and it seems it sort of works there. So for ML that would be the natural template to follow. *** Except the move from IRC to email matches in nature the move from

Re: [Dng] dev-list

2015-04-08 Thread hellekin
On 04/09/2015 01:15 AM, Martijn Dekkers wrote: We do not need another list. That's pretty arrogant. Can you back that up with some actual reasons, like others in this discussion are doing? Or is this simply a case of because I said so It's not arrogant, it's a fact. There's not even a

Re: [Dng] dev-list

2015-04-08 Thread hellekin
On 04/09/2015 01:17 AM, Martijn Dekkers wrote: The reason the vast majority of projects use separate lists is because it *works* [dev] tagged topics don't work very well, because in most cases, people tend to forget, or change the subjectline, or whatever. *** I agree that Mailman's topics

Re: [Dng] dev-list

2015-04-08 Thread hellekin
On 04/08/2015 09:49 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I make the following pledge to make sure I don't cause or continue conflict or noise on Dng: 1) I will not respond, at least on-list, to any thread discussing the merits or shames of systemd. I will either ignore, respond offlist, or filter and

Re: [Dng] The new forum

2015-04-08 Thread hellekin
On 04/08/2015 06:34 PM, Go Linux wrote: It bears little resemblance to the technical forums to which I have become accustomed. *** Thank you. I really hope non-technical people will like it. I hate technical discussions about computers. They suck, because they're either dick-wagging

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

2015-06-03 Thread hellekin
On 06/03/2015 05:53 AM, James Powell wrote: If the firmware aids in compatibility and driver support then yes, include it. *** I think non-free anything should not be included by default. For the sake of universality, they should be available to people who actually need them. Many people will

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

2015-06-03 Thread hellekin
On 06/03/2015 11:37 AM, Laurent Bercot wrote: about licensing purity. and: But whatever you do, don't paternalize the users. There's nothing more infuriating than an infantilizing message in the way of what you want to do. and: Your users chose Devuan: they already have made a good

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

2015-06-03 Thread hellekin
On 06/03/2015 12:06 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: IMO, network hardware that needs a non-free blob is the most glaring issue *** Yes, indeed, many computers come with broken hardware that won't work without installing proprietary software. I think this case is the single case that should be

Re: [DNG] proposed changes: the results

2015-07-17 Thread hellekin
On 07/16/2015 11:41 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: What do you think about moving this way? *** Your proposals are very consensual and pregnant of the users' freedom of choice. This is a great way to enable an open system embracing variety and selection, and this should be kept in mind for other

Re: [DNG] vi for beginners

2015-07-17 Thread hellekin
On 07/16/2015 06:24 PM, Riccardo Boninsegna wrote: :wq ZZ (uppercase) saves and quits, no questions asked! :x also saves and exits. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-14 Thread hellekin
On 07/14/2015 09:59 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: More than the already know switch from gnome to xcfe4 as the default desktop and the oblovious change to sysvinit instead of systemd, i would to propose some other default changes in the standard install: nano - vim exim - postfix what do you

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX (Errata)

2016-01-04 Thread hellekin
On 01/04/2016 03:07 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-03/issue-060 >> >> tips about UUID's][2], Arnt Karlsen talked about the [purpose of > > ..er, I did not, I asked the (I believe timely) question > "..where did the "/media

[DNG] How to enable LetsEncrypt Authority to access git.devuan.org (was Re: Expired SSL certificate for git.devuan.org)

2015-12-24 Thread hellekin
On 12/24/2015 03:24 PM, Don Wright wrote: > > Perhaps Let's Encrypt isn't included in the default certification > authorities in your Iceweasel build (unlikely). Visit > https://letsencrypt.org and check the Support pages. --Don > The Tor Browser Bundle plays fine with LetsEncrypt. It uses

[DNG] Devuan Security

2015-12-24 Thread hellekin
I suggest we add a devuan-security group on the gitlab, with a secur...@devuan.org with a GPG key. Any objection? Any volunteer? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-03 Thread hellekin
On 06/03/2016 05:56 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > '~._ > ""+=+_ )(@ @)@@ @@ @@.@@@. > '"@+.@''' @@@@ @@ @@ @++@ @?'''\@ > @@@+.@@ @@ @@ @@@@ @@@@@@ >

[DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

2016-06-02 Thread hellekin
Today Devuan is number #91 on DistroWatch.com! We made it to the Top 100 is the first 3 days of presence on DW. Sweet! http://distrowatch.com/devuan == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry *

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

2016-06-02 Thread hellekin
td" here. Sorry. > I tried this before, indeed the result needs tweaking. The screenfetch entry for Devuan looks pretty good already: hellekin@raiz ..,,;;;::;,.. OS: Devuan 1.0 jessie `':ddd;:,.

Re: [DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.

2016-06-01 Thread hellekin
You may also install desktop themes in your user's $HOME: ~/.themes/foo == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread hellekin
On 02/07/2016 01:00 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > If someone suggests a serious name that is better suited than the new > name, I will consider it. > I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also callable by `beammeup` or `beam [me] up [Scotty]` There's no netbeam package nor any `beam` UNIX command.

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-29 Thread hellekin
Arnt Karlsen: > > and: https://tails.boum.org/news/version_2.0/index.en.html > > ... > > Change to systemd as init system > I think it makes sense for a Live CD desktop distribution to do so, as it doesn't have to deal with legacy nor with broken upgrades, and it's not upgrading a

Re: [DNG] Semi OT: Mailman, Lurker and referencing messages

2016-02-01 Thread hellekin
On 02/01/2016 10:49 AM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > Can Mailman predict the URL under which Lurker will archive the message > it is processing "on the fly", or is there even a variable available? > > Quoting and referencing "third party" messages would be so much easier, > if mails contained

Re: [DNG] About Devuan News

2016-02-01 Thread hellekin
On 02/01/2016 09:24 AM, Noel Torres wrote: > > For familiar reasons I'm not able to continue working in the beautiful > Devuan News work I started, but I love to know that it continues alive. > Reading it is my main point of connection with the Devuan community and > as such I need it to

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread hellekin
On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) >>> >>> The preceding half sentence is one example of something that should >>> NEVER appear in any Devuan venue. Ever. >>> > > > ..either way, > I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread hellekin
On 01/27/2016 07:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > We anti-systemd people are already a tiny minority. > Indeed, Steve, *you* are. I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like slugs, bugs, rats, bullshit, bad coffee, or cyanide. I just don't want to have anything to do with it, and

Re: [DNG] Can I create other projects on git.devuan.org besides netman?

2016-01-31 Thread hellekin
On 01/31/2016 03:38 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > Since space on servers costs money I am asking whether I am allowed to > create other project on git.devuan.org? > Everyone has 10 projects by default. Did you reach that limit already? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-27 Thread hellekin
On 02/25/2016 04:01 PM, Ivan J. wrote: > Hello DnG. > > Is there interest in Devuan supporting multiple versions of leveldb? > The case of Bitcoin warrants some attention. Moreover, applications derived from Bitcoin may have the same issue. E.g., Twister compiles fine with db-5.3, but it may

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-27 Thread hellekin
On 02/27/2016 03:28 AM, Simon Wise wrote: > > something as minimal as possible, like above, seems a very good option. > I dream of a core Devuan that is modular so that the Desktop Environment is a *blend* that you layer on top of core. That way, you can have a choice of DEs that users can

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread hellekin
On 02/28/2016 07:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I suggest we use this mailing list for communication, and label each > post with the word DE in capital letters on the subject line. > Thus they'll end up arriving as [DNG] DE ... > We can do that, or use Mailman topics: so if you put [DE] in

Re: [DNG] Which Devuan alpha4 for vbox?

2016-02-22 Thread hellekin
On 02/16/2016 06:05 PM, GoOSSBears wrote: > Wish to run an i386 Devuan alpha4 as a guest OS in VirtualBox's > current v5.0.14[1], and under an i386 Linux-distro host. > The Devuan download zone[2] currently lists the four possibilities > for this as > > - devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4.box > -

Re: [DNG] git.devuan.org upgrade

2016-01-22 Thread hellekin
On 01/20/2016 12:27 PM, hellekin wrote: > Hello, > > git.devuan.org will go down for a scheduled upgrade on Friday, January > 22nd, in the (EU) evening. > I am timezone-challenged :) Hope everything is fine. Please report any anomalies. Happy hacking! == hk -- _ _

[DNG] git.devuan.org upgrade

2016-01-20 Thread hellekin
Hello, git.devuan.org will go down for a scheduled upgrade on Friday, January 22nd, in the (EU) evening. Cheers, == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-15 Thread hellekin
On 03/14/2016 08:04 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >>> >>> 0.1.20160314+1deb1 >>> >>> I was purposing something like this: >>> >>> 0.1.d5d965-jessie1 >>> >>> There is not a great difference between both. If you prefer to use >>> the date instead of the short commit, i will do so. >> >> The whole point

[DNG] TLS / files.do

2016-04-07 Thread hellekin
In case you didn't notice, all servers are now using proper TLS certificates from Let's Encrypt, except one host: files.devuan.org, that mysteriously failed to acquire some. So this one is using a free certificate from Startcom. If you encounter any issue with TLS, please report to

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

2016-04-06 Thread hellekin
I'd rather not read that kind of degrading perspective in anything related to Devuan anymore. I have enough going on with my life not to be interested in witnessing people vomiting their hate over one another. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

2016-03-19 Thread hellekin
On 03/17/2016 07:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Where can I download Devuan's beta? > In the near future, as Mitt suggested ;o), from https://devuan.org/ and https://files.devuan.org/. For now, in Centurion_dan's pocket :) Tip: for anything related to the Web, please report issues to

Re: [DNG] files.devuan.org not working

2016-03-30 Thread hellekin
On 03/30/2016 02:46 PM, parazyd wrote: > > For what it's worth, it is now upped to 30 certs. > Yes, it upped just after--like hours after--the first generation of our certificates :( == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture

Re: [DNG] suspend

2016-04-13 Thread hellekin
On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > > I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but > "to be PC"? Err, what? Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation,

Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]

2016-04-20 Thread hellekin
This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask anyway. Cheers == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

2016-04-20 Thread hellekin
On 04/20/2016 02:38 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > > Nice page, next would be to populate the links with content, right? > Can you be more specific? Did you *read* the contents of the 404 page you must have stumbled upon? If so, you know what to do. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-21 Thread hellekin
On 04/21/2016 04:14 PM, Mitt Green wrote: > > From GitHub[1]: > Project is in stale state since its proclamation. > The main objective, working Skype test call, > is reached. I don't have any plans for further > development. > > [1]:https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse > Thanks Mitt. That means

Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]

2016-04-21 Thread hellekin
Thank you all for your positive response! It's heart-warming. == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-21 Thread hellekin
On 04/21/2016 08:17 PM, Mitt Green wrote: > > Frankly, no idea. ‎I have never used Skype, nor have > a Microsoft account (removed right after throwing > away my Lumia; smartphones suck by the way). > > / Mitt > I guess you're my kind of a guy :) == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code

Re: [DNG] Beta

2016-04-29 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 11:40 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Herb Garcia wrote: > >>So is the Openstack instance there? > > yes, the openstack image (cloud-init equipped) is tagged _cloud_ > > and is included in the torrent. > _cloud_ is the worst label ever. Please tag it openstack, as

Re: [DNG] Missing packages

2016-04-29 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 03:02 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > Let me elaborate. In debian, the firmware-iwlwifi package is found in > the pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ subdirectory. > In packages.devuan.org/pool/, there is only a main directory, no non-free > directory. Why is that? > packages.devuan.org

[DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-29 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 03:27 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > security.devuan.org uses an invalid security certificate. > The certificate is only valid for the following names: > devuan.org, www.devuan.org > (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) > > How do I resolve this? > Don't use

Re: [DNG] devuan announce and discuss mailing lists

2016-04-29 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 03:30 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Please arrange to relay these new mailing lists through gmane.org. > They provides a very usable archive-as-usenet service. > > Or do you want me to do this? > Please go ahead! == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share

Re: [DNG] [helle...@dyne.org: Re: Missing packages] UP!

2016-04-29 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 04:54 PM, hellekin wrote: > > You should use http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ for Devuan > sources. Not anything else. > Sorry, I meant AUTO.MIRROR.DEVUAN.ORG, as indicated in the documentation and the default /etc/apt/sources.list. packages.devuan.org is where Am

Re: [DNG] Torrents for every single install image

2016-05-14 Thread hellekin
On 05/13/2016 10:35 AM, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > Hi All, > > I have created a single torrent file for every installation image inside > the 10 Gb and are actively seeding. > Is there a way to add them to a website or wiki for easy access for > everyone? > Hello, This is not

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

2016-05-14 Thread hellekin
On 05/13/2016 04:30 PM, David Hare wrote: > > http://paste.debian.net/683478 > Great! Would you consider putting it on https://talk.devuan.org/c/study? If you need help, please tell me. I guess you can replace line 17: if ! (dpkg -l | grep "^ii" | grep "grub-efi-amd64" |grep -v "bin"); then

Re: [DNG] .iso images label

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 05:36 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: > Minor but it would be nice to see Devuan and not Debian > as the label. > > [snip] > > Would someone check and correct before the next release? > Follow up to https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/debian-installer/issues/52 == hk -- _ _ We

Re: [DNG] Fwd: For all you automounter programmers

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 05/03/2016 12:16 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: > > Problem, blkid uses a cache that is only updated when root runs blkid. > Any changes are not automatically updated. A user only sees the cache. > > The issues is, fsr is trying to do everything as a "user" so tools like > lsblk and blkid don't work

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 05/02/2016 11:37 AM, Herb Garcia wrote: > By that metric, using the phrase "cloud-init" is at least descriptive, > and not marketing buzzword driven. > It reminds me of the silver ion spreading technique used in China to create rain and wash Beijing's roofs from desert sand. Now *that* is

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 05/02/2016 09:15 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > helle...@dyne.org writes: >> auto.mirrors does not exist: only auto.mirror does. Unknown names point >> to www.devuan.org. > > Auto.mirrors exists as of yesterday. It was on the devuan home page due > to a typo. Nextime made the typo work, then

Re: [DNG] sources.list targets

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 05/03/2016 10:28 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 03 May 2016, Daniel Reurich wrote: > >> Indeed we need a canonical FAQ for Devuan - one that contains correct >> information and properly managed. > > best strategy for that is to restart it on our forum https://talk.devuan.org > FYI:

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 05/03/2016 12:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > I definitely agree with you Jim, and this is certainly one aspect to > be taken into account seriously. We should strive to allow the maximum > flexibility in choosing an init system, ensuring that the set of > constraints remains as small as possible. >

[DNG] OT Re: cloud

2016-05-04 Thread hellekin
On 05/03/2016 06:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:44:29 + > hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote: > > >> I want to call it "rabbit" or "Shub-Niggurath" > > I fear the latter name would not be well received in the United States

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-05-02 Thread hellekin
On 04/30/2016 08:25 PM, Don Wright wrote: > > I resolve them as: > auto.mirror.devuan.org. 300 IN CNAME packages.devuan.org. > packages.devuan.org.1800IN A 46.105.191.77 > > auto.mirrors.devuan.org. 300IN CNAME www.devuan.org. > www.devuan.org.

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-05-02 Thread hellekin
On 05/01/2016 08:17 PM, dan pridgeon wrote: > Cirrus > > From: Hughe Chung > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] cloud > > > How about cloudnine? > As much as I like Bucky Fuller, the goal is not to

[DNG] No DNS: OVH under DDOS

2016-05-06 Thread hellekin
As reported on IRC just a minute ago: < Guy-> is it just me, or is there a DNS problem with devuan.org? Guy-: http://travaux.ovh.com/?do=details=17875 dns anycast.me ( the CDN where devuan.org is hosted for DNS ) is under dDoS i will take care to

Re: [DNG] [helle...@dyne.org: Re: Missing packages]

2016-05-03 Thread hellekin
On 04/29/2016 09:50 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > >> Hellekin wrote: >> >> You should use http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ for >> Devuan sources. Not anything else. > Update: auto.mirror.devuan.org gives you the closest (fastest) mirror available, and is preferred.

Re: [DNG] asteroids and release names.

2016-04-19 Thread hellekin
On 04/19/2016 12:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Ascii will be the name of version 1, won't it? > 1.0 is Jessie (upcoming beta...) 2.0 is ASCII 3.0 is B... 4.0 is C... ... sid is CERES == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-19 Thread hellekin
On 04/19/2016 01:38 PM, Go Linux wrote: > >> More to the point, what is being used s a bug tracker now? Something >> on github, maybe? >> >> -- hendrik > > To report a bug, open an issue under the appropriate project in > Devuan's gitlab (not github) at https://git.devuan.org/. You will > need

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-21 Thread hellekin
On 04/20/2016 03:46 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: >> >> This is not the first time apulse has been discussed on this list. >> There was talk of packaging apluse for Devuan last year but that >> conversation has been lost in time. Perhaps adding apulse to Devuan >> will be reconsidered once the beta is

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

2016-04-21 Thread hellekin
On 04/20/2016 07:55 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > Clicking on 'forked from Debian' > This is indeed one of the sections that remain to write. Generalizing like you did is useless and misguiding. Don't forget that this is the BETA site of the BETA, so it's normal that a house in-the-making

Re: [DNG] apt-get vs. aptitude ?

2016-04-18 Thread hellekin
On 04/16/2016 08:13 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/04/2016 19:47, Noel Torres a écrit : >> >> I regularly use aptitude's CUI (I use to name it as text-mode GUI). >> Mostly because it has that wonderful "Mark as automatically installed" >> mode, that allows packages to be more easily updated or

[DNG] KDE Presents its Vision for the Future

2016-04-18 Thread hellekin
https://dot.kde.org/2016/04/05/kde-presents-its-vision-future I like it. Ditto for the comments on Accessibility (a11y). == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-25 Thread hellekin
On 07/25/2016 06:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a screenshot of my buddy's kernel menuconfig: > > https://sanitarium.net/x.png > Support for init systems, system and service managers: [*] OpenRC, runit and other script based systems and managers [ ] systemd This looks like a

Re: [DNG] Cannot install Samba on Jessie

2016-07-24 Thread hellekin
On 07/24/2016 10:40 AM, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > > Apparently the bug has been fixed? Samba 4.2.10 installed without any > problem or hickup today with AMD64. > The bug remains open and is unassigned: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/61 == hk -- _ _ We are

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