Re: [DNG] Cannot update chromium
Hi Fraser, dev1galaxy seems to be having some technical issues which should be fixed soon. As for the ircs:// link, you need to install an IRC client. I use weechat myself but Hexchat might be more suitable to newcomers. On August 5, 2017 11:12:59 AM GMT+03:00, fraser kendall <lfs-mail...@leloft.co.uk> wrote: >Hi, > >Sorry if this is the wrong list to post to. The security advisory from >debian (Debian Security Advisory DSA-3926-1) refers to 23 issues. I >cannot update chromium from apt-get. I cannot access the solution > >referred to in the bug report: > >https://bugs.devuan.org/db/24/24.html > >and the link (https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=444) returns an >error: > >An error was encountered >Error: Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server. > >I have checked sources.list, reinstalled devuan-keyring, updated >apt-key, but I am still not getting chromium listed as an update >candidate. Several days ago, I had a failed apt-get update && apt-get >upgrade operation due to unauthenticated packages, but I am not >confident that the operation aborted successfully. > >I cannot load the ircs://irc.freenode.net/#devuan link: chromium asks >to open xdg-open and then returns an untitled page, and so I am unable >to post this on a more appropriate site. If this is problematic, I >apologise. Any advice would be welcome: I am happy to subscribe to any >appropriate lists to post this to. > >Many thanks for your efforts: I am running devuan on all seven machines >at work and they all appear to be extremely stable, even under extreme >loading. > >Best wishes >fraser > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://blaze.nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/nextchan/infinity-next I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive
Sometimes, though, you *need* to keep doing low-level things. It's not much of a necessity in the current state of technology anymore, but if you recall back in the 90s people used to hand-tune assembly code because the C code generated by the compiler was not efficient enough. The hardware was also the cause of such trickery, like Quake's fast inverse square root, which was created because integer aritmetic was much faster than floating point arithmetic back then. Most of these problems are solved by compiler optimizations and hardware improvements but people working on embedded systems sometimes still need to do low-level magic. On July 25, 2017 12:04:15 PM GMT+03:00, Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: >Le 25/07/2017 à 00:34, Alessandro Selli a écrit : >> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 21:52:23 +0200 >> Ruediger Meier <sweet_...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >>> On Monday 24 July 2017, Joachim Fahrner wrote: >>>> Am 2017-07-24 20:34, schrieb Hendrik Boom: >>>>> How much source code actually cares whether pointers are 32 or 64 >>>>> bits? >>>> Clean written code should not care about pointers or integers are >32 >>>> or 64 bit or byte order. Code written in a higher language should >run >>>> on any hardware, otherwise I call it "defect". >>> In theory you may have right but in practice I guess most currently >used >>> code would not run correctly on 16bit machines. >>> >>> In practice you have to run and test the code on all target >>> architectures to keep it portable. >>Right. Remember the Ariane! >> >> https://around.com/ariane.html > > Even with a high level language carefully designed to discourage >loose programming and dirty low-level tricks, it is still possible, >although with strong efforts, to fuck the compiler and keep programming > >at a very low level. And, unfortunately, there are programmers who like > >doing such things. > > Didier > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://blaze.nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/nextchan/infinity-next I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong garbage of the day: hola signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Just out of curiosity, I wondered,
It should Just Work(TM), as it did on every OS I have tested myself. You might want to take a look at QEMU docs and try playing with the network card emulation options. On August 9, 2017 12:28:08 AM GMT+03:00, zap <calmst...@posteo.de> wrote: >how do you enable internet in a virtual machine with qemu? > >I wanted to try to see how effectively certain distros such as gnuinos >and vuu-do work through qemu with upgrading actually working... > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://blaze.nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/nextchan/infinity-next I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Testing post, please ignore
It seems that I cannot get any posts on my mailbox from DNG. Testing posting now, please ignore this message. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] armhf support?
I want to install Debian Jessie via Linux Deploy on my Android device (as a chroot), then migrate it to Devuan Jessie then ASCII. What's the status on armhf architecture on Devuan? Anyone use it on an ARM device? --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]
My account had 'nomail' set for a while so I can't reply to the original, so I'm replying over Enrico's message. On 23.09.2017 10:51, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >of google's intrusivity; they can put most any spyware in videos, and I'm >looking for the knowhow how to safely deal with Youtube videos, a very hard to >gain knowledge, very advanced... not nearly there, not even in my dreams there >yet... You can work over that by disabling Youtube JS and then adding a plugin to parse the Youtube JS and get the video link. youtube-dl does exactly this (they have a really tiny jsinterp.py file which can extract variables. It doesn't execute any code, and has no control flow). You can bundle the latest version of youtube-dl in an addon which rewrites the YouTube page to contain a simple native browser video and video information only, and then update it every time youtube-dl is updated. This would prevent users to comment, but if they really want to comment they'll need to turn on JS. Or if you're lazy you can redirect youtube to HookTube. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks
On November 3, 2017 11:27:21 AM GMT+03:00, Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote: >Please shutdown this giant thread completely. >I'm near to unsubscribe from list. >Most of subjects you are chattering can be found with web browsing. >Devuan project is very fragile with this behaviour. Allow me to remind you that this mailing isn't purely for Devuan discussion, dev1galaxy is a place for that. Also, this thread is largely related to Devuan, because UEFI usually makes it harder (or prevents) installing GNU distributions such as Devuan, and if a company like Google is abandoning UEFI this might be good news. Also, the threads don't have to be completely on-topic. Internet is not serious business. If you really don't like a discussion filter it or killfile the senders. You have the technology. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks
On 11/04/2017 02:09 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >>> I sometimes have Richard Stallman as a house guest, >> Walk on egg shells much? > Seriously, Richard Stallman is a gracious and pleasant guest. > He's also extremely funny. > > I was at a Chinese restaurant with him once, and decided to try to yank > his chain: 'Richand, I hope you don't take offence that I'm a vi user.' > (He'd seen me doing split-screen editing and was wondering if that was > an Emacs configuration; I took some small delight in revealing that it > was vim.) He fired right back with a smile: 'We of the Church of Emacs > don't consider use of vi a sin, but rather penance.' > > Touché! > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I'd really like to meet Richard Stallman in person. I hope I can, someday. -- --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://blaze.nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/nextchan/infinity-next I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong garbage of the day: gotta be selectively racist signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Expansion of the development team
On November 5, 2017 9:44:29 PM GMT+03:00, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >The group decided, from the options suggested, that they will be >collectively referred to as the 'Caretakers'. They don't really need a group name, in my opinion. That gives me a 'Ghostbusters'-kinda vibe. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks
On November 4, 2017 8:29:00 PM GMT+03:00, Simon Hobson <li...@thehobsons.co.uk> wrote: >m712 <comeon@getbackinthe.kitchen> wrote: > >> I'd really like to meet Richard Stallman in person. I hope I can, >someday. > >I've met him briefly when he did a speaking tour in the UK. >He has a reputation for being direct and taking questions literally - >and that's how I found him. I assume it's just the way he is, some of >us are like that. I think that's part of the reason many people >"dislike" him - if you don't recognise that he's just being direct, >some mike mistake it for rudeness. I am also like that, I like to be blunt people. I also only use free software, so I think we'd be good buddies ;-) >But regardless of what you think of him, and his very rigid attitude to >freedom in software, without him (and others with similar views) we >certainly would not be where we are now. I do not doubt that. I have an immense amount of respect for the GNU Project and the FSF. One of my life goals is to get hired at FSF, in fact. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks
On November 5, 2017 12:16:53 AM GMT+03:00, Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: >On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 05:29:00PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > >> his very rigid attitude to freedom in software > >I'd prefer if this attitude was more rigid. > >For example, AGPL -- even worse as GPL-3 allows an "upgrade" to this >non-free crock. It breaks FSF Freedom 0 "the freedom to use for any >purpose": you can't take any code from an AGPLed project and use it >within >any networked scenario that doesn't provide a way to advertise the >source, >such as an IMAP server, a wifi-connected lift control (visit Google's >offices in Zurich and they'll mention this every time), or a light >dimmer. >How do you propose the interface in the last case to be? "Raise your >hand >to turn light on, lower it to turn off, hop to recite the source"? You do realize that the source only has to be made available by the manufacturer, right? You can also create an extension API to add your proprietary code AFAIK. Just put a sticker "for source code, visit https://chingchong.co.hk/gpl/; for the light dimmer. >AGPL also breaks DFSG Dissident Test: take a blogging platform, which >has >two tiers of users: your dissident friends who send secret >steganographic >messages, and regular bloggers whose content unknowingly gets some HTML >tags >reordered to smuggle those secret messages. AGPL would require >revealing >the secret, regular GPL doesn't endanger you in any way (only the >fellow >dissidents who need an encoder/decoder receive its sources). Use an API. >Or, GFDL. Besides obviously non-free immutable sections and front/back >covers (which don't even allow you to correct an error, remove "Ode to >Hitler" a previous maintainer add, etc), GFDL even disallows chmod -r >or >locking the door to your server room. A key might be 5000 years old >technology but is still technology. Nobody tells you to make the server ssh-accessible publicly. The only additional necessity of the AGPL license over GPL is that if you made modifications to the server source code, you must release them as well. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but personally I prefer it. In fact, the source code of Blazechan (the imageboard software I'm currently working on, check sig) is AGPLv3. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions
I propose ``alt.sysadmin.rehab''. On November 2, 2017 5:46:50 PM GMT+03:00, Jamey Fletcher <ja...@beau.org> wrote: >>> systemd is a reality, and making sad or smart jokes about it does >not >>> make it more palatable, or less of a threat. > >> yep, you are right systemd is a reality, I just needed to vent >somehow. >> and making my jokes is one way of doing so... > >Do we need to start alt.systemdadmin.recovery? > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis
On October 28, 2017 11:22:49 AM GMT+03:00, Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com>
wrote:
>(But sure, fixing the runit-init package
>would be a nice-to-have.)
I have a proposal for this. Basically, have an install script which does
something like this (I'm not familiar with the Debian packaging scripts so
assume it's sh):
# if upgrading, this doesn't run
if [ "$(pgrep runit -o)" != "1" ]; then
mv -f /sbin/shutdown{,.old}
mv -f /sbin/reboot{,.old}
fi
And then /sbin/reboot and /sbin/shutdown should point to a shell script like
this:
if [ "$(pgrep runit -o)" != "1" ]; then
exec "$0.old" $*
else
if [ -e "$0.old" ]; then
rm "$0.old"
fi; fi
# ...do shutdown/reboot the runit way...
I don't think it's the best way of doing this, but I guess it'd work.
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Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions
On November 1, 2017 5:12:53 PM GMT+03:00, zap <calmst...@posteo.de> wrote: >Also another slogan for systemd: "*The**Donald Trump**of **Init*!" Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion and the joke may be offensive to some. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] devuanfwojg73k6r.onion and pkgmaster.devuan.org are they and have they ever been the same?
Forwarding to the ML because I messed up the recipient. On February 15, 2018 3:43:30 AM GMT+03:00, Fungal-net <fungal...@protonmail.com> wrote: >Are you saying now, and this is a new take on explaining the >unexplainable, and please readers feel free to intervene here and point >out the obvious to me, what is the problem of reaching pkgmaster via >tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org? All you would know, being the gate keeper >on the repository side, is that someone through https:// is reaching >pkgmaster from the exit node. Nothing else! If you can see something, >other than "graylisting" tor exit nodes, I am sure the torpoject people >would like to know. The difference with an onion address is that the >connection doesn't go out to clearnet to reach the destination, but the >target is one and the same. Right? It means that when you access https://pkgmaster.d.o, the clearnet debian repos are used for any unmodified packages, and if you use the onion, the tor repositories are used. >I don't know what is going on with the internals of the repository and >I don't know whether the "users" would care to know. The questions was >simple, are they or are they not the same. What is your response? >Beating around the bush? Nice accusation but you haven't provided any technical details and frankly nobody gives a flying fsck about your accusations. Provide technical evidence or be quiet. > As has been reported by torproject, not yet explained, somehow >if you make "one connection" through tor, out in clearnet and back >through tor your identity is revealed. * How is this relevant? The only one making clearnet connections (if any) would be pkgmaster, and it already has a public IP. This feels like fearmongering. >But where has this practice been documented before this "official" >announcement? Here you are admitting the onion address is NOT the same >with packagemaster because the forwarding is done to two separate >debian addresses. No, he just said that the debian clearnet repo is used for https, and debian tor repo is used for tor. >It is obviously a logic problem when you say that they are the same >when you describe that they aren't. Am I crazy here or did you just >admit that an onion connection is forwarded differently than a clearnet >connection? Yes, he did, and this is perfectly fine. >And it is obvious that even though I make a clear reference that on >this list the problem was brought up in early December just as I >described it, it was cared for and addressed then, it was reported "as >fixed" for that particular occasion. Did you forget it, do you >selectively pretend it is an isolated issue that only occurs "here" and >you are clueless to how many people witnessed the problem, or is with >"your logic" the issue a non-problem if only one person reports on it? Evidence. >Obviously the way you are handling the response to me is evidence that >there is something to the story. Or it's simply evidence that you're talking out of your backend. >PLEASE do not forget to point us to the reference on when was there a >public announcement that onion address users were shoved over to a beta >testing system. I simply have missed it. amprolla3 has been stable for a while now, IDK what you're talking about. m712(); -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] devuanfwojg73k6r.onion and pkgmaster.devuan.org are they and have they ever been the same?
Forwarding to the ML because I messed up the recipient. On February 15, 2018 4:21:03 AM GMT+03:00, Fungal-net <fungal...@protonmail.com> wrote: >If you are officially representing Devuan and "a long email" described >why Devuan should not be trusted, I'd say it is your problem the >inability to read and understand the technical content. If you are >really unable to understand the technical content of this "long email" >then you are definetely the wrong person to be "officially" responding. What technical content? >What else is there to say? If I no longer trust devuan for the very >specific reasons and evidence I have provided why would I have a >technical problem and if I did why would I trust you to help me with >it? What exact evidence? Please, I must be fscking stupid, explain it in simple terms. >Your response is every proof I needed that there is something fishy >going on. It may be legal to be deceiving people but the question is >whether it is ethical and whether once you discover a rat are you >responsible to make the discovery public. That is the dilemma. There >is nothing technical about it! You're free to conspire until the end of time mate, it doesn't change the fact that it's still bullsh!t. m712(); -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ASCII doesn't suspend when closing lid
On December 28, 2017 7:05:47 PM GMT+03:00, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: >On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 11:05:43 +0100 >Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: > >> xfce4-power-manager is configured such that closing lid should >> cause suspend. >> >> When the lid is closed and reopen, there is no message in dmesg. >> >> Any clue? Thanks. > >Hi Didier, > >This is non-responsive to your question, but perhaps is some info... > >Since 1999 I've used old Redhat, Caldera, Corel Linux, Mandrake, >Mandriva, Ubuntu, Debian, and Void Linux. I have NEVER been able to get >suspend and rebirth (or whatever it's called) to work right on any of >these distros at any time. Suspend and rebirth is very, very tricky. Rebirth, lol. It's suspend and resume. I guess `rebirth' would be recycling the computer. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- https://nextchan.org - https://gitgud.io/m712/blazechan I am awake between 7AM-12AM UTC, hit me up if something's wrong signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Happy New Year!
On January 1, 2018 4:05:32 PM GMT+03:00, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote: >Dear Renaud, >Devuana is to Devuan, like Tijuana to Tijuan... I think dev1ers is more than enough. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No initrd on upgrade
On January 1, 2018 3:54:02 AM GMT+03:00, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: >On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 07:19:06PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 06:00:44PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > I just upgraded devuan from jessie to ascii. I now have a new >kernel. >> > >> > Now I'm used to, when a new kernel is installed, that the boot >process >> > is also updated to boot the new kernel. But this has not happened. >> > >> > I still hae the same old /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which specified the >same >> > old kernel and initrd. >> > >> > Hand-editing this isn;t enough, becuase I also don't have a new >initrd >> > for the new kernel. >> >> So I try >> >> root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik# update-initramfs -u >> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-686-pae >> /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 66: .: Can't open >/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf >> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-686-pae with >2. >> root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik# ls /etc/initramfs-tools/ >> conf.d initramfs.conf.dpkg-new modules update-initramfs.conf >> hooksinitramfs.conf.dpkg-remove scripts >update-initramfs.conf.dpkg-new >> root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik# >> >> It looks as if no initrd is generated because there's no >> /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf >> >> And that because of an upgrade problem, either now or in the past. >> >> This isn't good for novices trying to upgrade. Will investigate. > >Started interactive aptitude, looking for packages with names like >initramfs-tools. Found it in state 'u', unconfigured. And there were >*oodles* of packages in that same state. I told aptitude 'g' and let >iit have its way with them. It configures a lot of packages. More or >less what I thought the apt-get upgraded had already done. After that, > >there was an initrd, and the boot stanzas in /etc/grub/gru.cfg had been > >properly updated. > >So what may need attention is this: Why wasn't the earlier >dist-upgrade >sufficient? > >-- hendrik I'm guessing somewhere in your dist-upgrade your apt exploded and left unconfigured packages. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Fwd: Re: libvte-free terminal emulator? was: ROXterm flickers in ascii
On January 2, 2018 7:13:50 PM GMT+03:00, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: >Hendrik Boom wrote on 02.01.2018 16:46: >> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 11:04:32AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: >>> Le 02/01/2018 à 03:40, Hendrik Boom a écrit : >>>> I've been using ROXterm in Devuan ascii. >[...] >>> In which repository did you find roxterm? I can find rox-filer >(which >>> needs some hand-made configuration) in ASCII, but not roxterm. >> >> I'm not sure. Possibly somewhere Steve Litt recommended, but I no >longer >> know. I'll investigate on the off chance I'll find out. >> >> If it's not in Devuan, obviously it's not a Devuan problem. > >In case you become interested in a replacement with a similar >feature set, yet still small-ish footprint and reasonable list >of dependencies: I can recommend sakura! I've been using it for >years now (after gnome-terminal and its clones went belly-up >along with the rest of the train wreck that once was a workable >desktop environment) and never had reason to look back or complain. > >Terminator would be another alternative. However, to me it feels >a bit sluggish — might have to do with it being seemingly written >entirely(?) in python. > >Urban This is slightly unrelated, but can anyone recommend a libvte-free terminal emulator that is similar to xfce4-terminal and can handle ligatures? I want to use Fira Code on my terminal; however all libvte-using terminals are affected by a (rather appalling) bug <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584160> which has been open for quite some time, where the text gets mangled and characters go missing with the Fira Code font. ps: I really enjoy the dismissive attitude of the gnome devs on that bugzilla. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course
FUD. Mozilla says that this is only to see whether TRR causes any performance or stability issues. They don't plan to turn this on with Cloudflare in the release. On August 7, 2018 2:51:40 PM GMT+03:00, "taii...@gmx.com" wrote: >Yet another great choice by mozilla > >Cloudflare is such an incredibly obvious intelligence agency ploy to >gather data but no one talks about this. > >https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/08/05/2353249/security-researchers-express-concerns-over-mozillas-new-dns-resolution-for-firefox > >Article included for your security pleasure > >"With their next patch Mozilla will introduce two new features to their >Firefox browser they call "DNS over HTTPs" (DoH) and Trusted Recursive >Resolver (TRR). Mozilla says this is an additional feature which >enables >security. Researchers think otherwise. From a report: >So let's get to the new Firefox feature called "Trusted Recursive >Resolver" (TRR). When Mozilla turns this on by default, the DNS changes >you configured in your network won't have any effect anymore. At least >for browsing with Firefox, because Mozilla has partnered up with >Cloudflare, and will resolve the domain names from the application >itself via a DNS server from Cloudflare based in the United States. >Cloudflare will then be able to read everyone's DNS requests. > >From our point of view, us being security geeks, advertising this >feature with slogans like "increases security" is rather misleading >because in many cases the opposite is the case. While it is true that >with TRR you may not expose the websites you call to a random DNS >server >in an untrustworthy network you don't know, it is not true that this >increases security in general. It is true when you are somewhere in a >network you don't know, i. e. a public WiFi network, you could >automatically use the DNS server configured by the network. This could >cause a security issue, because that unknown DNS server might have been >compromised. In the worst case it could lead you to a phishing site >pretending to be the website of your bank: as soon as you enter your >personal banking information, it will be sent straight to the >attackers. > >But on the other hand Mozilla withholds that using their Trusted >Recursive Resolver would cause a security issue in the first place for >users who are indeed in a trustworthy network where they know their >resolvers, or use the ISP's default one. Because sharing data or >information with any third party, which is Cloudflare in this case, is >a >security issue itself." >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.
It's your choice to remove or keep them, and the color of a wallpaper is entirely subjective. I think it's arrogant to request Devuan to remove artwork because you want them removed. On March 9, 2018 11:34:28 AM GMT+03:00, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: >Dear All, > >I would like to ask the Devuan Distribution to provide a means to >permanently remove the purple wallpapers (golinux's creation). I would >like to have either wallpapers that users can individually choose or >some light blue/green gradient wallpapers. > >Thank you all. >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.
On March 10, 2018 6:08:27 PM GMT+03:00, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 10/03/2018, m712 <comeon@getbackinthe.kitchen> wrote: >> It's your choice to remove or keep them, and the color of a wallpaper >is >> entirely subjective. I think it's arrogant to request Devuan to >remove >> artwork because you want them removed. >> > >An 'Ad Hominem'? Bravo! I am a chef and was 'back in the kitchen' >preparing a broth with too many cooks. I don't think you have a correct understanding of ad hominem. I did not accuse you of being arrogant, I stated my opinion that I believe it is arrogant to request a distro-wide removal of artwork just because someone doesn't like them. Maybe the use of "you want them removed" was incorrect; I should have used "someone wants them removed", and for that I apologize. My opinion still stands, though. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.
I'm pretty much convinced this is a troll but all I've got on this Saturday evening is time and my wine so. On March 10, 2018 10:22:46 PM GMT+03:00, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: >Quote: "I don't think you have a correct understanding of ad hominem." > >Keep what you think to yourself. You called me out on using an Ad Hominem, and I called you out on using it incorrectly. Stop the double standard. >The tactic is to attack the messenger instead of the message. You asked artwork to be removed with no reason given, so it's obviously assumed to be personal taste. The messenger is attacked because the message depends on the messenger. >I wrote an email to be directed to change the >default wallpapers for slim and got into a puerile argument with >people who should know such arguments lead to nowhere but I am was >wrong in my assuming I was dealing with grown-ups. Nice ad hominem yourself. Also, the distro should fit you and your personal taste? What? >I will not drink the venom that you posted - keep that to yourself. It >is always the same puerile attitude: the other party understands >nothing, knows nothings, remembers nothing, ... I would say the same about you, to be honest. If you actually read my mail now instead of cherry-picking some small thing I wrote and proclaiming "HA! Gotcha!", you will know that I'm trying to be constructive here. What you can do now is to make the question more open ended and asking people if they want change on the default wallpapers. Though, I doubt that it will happen since the majority seems to enjoy the current ones. >Shame on you. Not even gonna respond to this. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..
Why do you think people will help you if you can't give any specifics and keep shouting expletives at people? On October 21, 2018 10:55:18 AM GMT+03:00, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >On 10/21/18 12:35 AM, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com): >> >>> Who says you have to read my post >> >> You know, never mind. Much is now clearer. > >What's clearer Rick, how you can save Linux or you've found someone you > >can't F*** with? Are you a good guy or a bad guy? >-- >Jimmy Johnson > >Slackware64 Current - KDE 4.14.38 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda9 >Registered Linux User #380263 > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..
This is not related to systemd. It sounds more like Xrandr and pulseaudio/alsa favoring your HDMI more than your laptop. The Linux kernel doesn't "know" about avahi daemon in the sense that there is no code for it in the Linux source tree. Did you ever log those HTTP requests by chance? On October 21, 2018 1:10:27 PM GMT+03:00, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >On 10/21/18 1:19 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Hi Rick, >> >> On 21/10/18 14:42, Rick Moen wrote: >>> Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com): >>> >>>> Who remembers when rootkit hunter started showing problems and >>>> Debian said they where false positive problems? I think it was >>>> sometime during the development of Stretch. Well they fixed >>>> rootkit hunter to not show those problems any longer and so goes >>>> systemd, one BIG FAT security problem and has made security >>>> software pretty much useless. At lest with a firewall and no >>>> systemd you can stop kernel calls to get outside http or at lest >>>> I can. I think it's to bad we have to live with a kernel that's >>>> passing our activity to outside sources. I have this stuff >>>> logged, it can't be denied. >> >> I think he means the callout by some systemd setup that does a http >or >> some other test for "connenctivity" ... perhaps it is more than that, >> but that alone is a concern. It was suggested in /that/ thread to >> which I think he is talking about, that the test should be to the >> router or the first outside gateway from your local network. >> >> Anyways, I'm not too sure. >> >> Cheers > >Thanks for the post. > >I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup no >problem with Jessie without systemd or wheezy, I was running a intel >laptop HDMI to a big screen smart tv, the screen would go black and the > >audio would stop, I'm not the only on who has seen the problem as it's >been mentioned on the Debian mailing list. Since then I have ran it on >other systems, like Devuan, PCLinuxOS and Slackware too and have seen >the the problem in real time while looking at the system log and I >would >see the kernel making calls to get a outside HTTP, I bring down my net >connection and the kernel calls avahi daemon to bring it back up and >make a HTTP connection, I stop avahi daemon and the kernel binds with >the NIC and tries to get outside HTTP, that's where my firewall stops >it. But the kernel keeps trying over and over and over endlessly to >get >outside HTTP and all this makes it imposable to watch my movie. Using >the Intel laptop was convenient, but I got the idea to try my AMD >nvidia >desktop, I got the same kernel activity but no interference with >audio/video, I'm now using ATI Radeon laptop, works the same as nvidia >or maybe it's because their both AMD as I don't have nvidia or ATI >running on a intel system that I can test. > >Questions? >-- >Jimmy Johnson > >Slackware64 Current - KDE 4.14.38 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda9 >Registered Linux User #380263 > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..
Nobody can help you if you don't explain your point. The only thing we got so far is your conspiracy theory of rkhunter masking "false"-false-positives for systemd and an incoherent claim of the Linux kernel doing HTTP requests to somewhere. On October 21, 2018 11:46:07 AM GMT+03:00, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >On 10/21/18 1:00 AM, m712 wrote: >> Why do you think people will help you if you can't give any specifics >and keep shouting expletives at people? > >Let me know when someone is trying to help? :) >-- >Jimmy Johnson > >Slackware64 Current - KDE 4.14.38 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda9 >Registered Linux User #380263 > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism
Your best bet is a killfile since he's guaranteed to bomb our inboxes after your message. On November 1, 2018 3:20:43 AM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: >On 01/11/18 at 00:56, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of >a >> *smartphone*, not laptops! > > > Sorry, re-reading the thread I figured out the thread started about >laptops, and a sub-thread initiated by Hendrik Boom (Message-ID: ><20181031004923.g7hyshbtgs63m...@topoi.pooq.com>) considered their >smartphone too, the Librem5. > > So, concerning the smartphone nothing you wrote applies. And since >there are no PowerPC laptops it does not apply to those Puri.sm >produces, too. > > Everything else you wrote about Puri.sm was debated far and large and >I'm not wasting further bytes on it. > > Get a life, will you? > > >Alessandro m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
On September 20, 2018 12:32:07 AM GMT+03:00, KatolaZ wrote: >On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:55:38PM +0300, m712 wrote: >> >> >> On September 19, 2018 8:09:52 PM GMT+03:00, Steve Litt > wrote: >> >Long observation of >> >people resenting CoCs is they want the right to speak cruelly to >> >individuals and speak cruelly about groups of people, those groups >> >having nothing to do with the list's core foundation (Linux sans >> >systemd, in our case). >> Sorry, Steve, that's intellectually dishonest. You're painting a >black-and-white picture of "if people oppose CoCs then they must want >to do things not allowed by the CoCs", however in all instances I have >encountered where the need for a CoC was disputed I have seen the exact >opposite. You do not need a CoC to protect people from bad words, and >people who are contributing nothing but insults are quickly killfiled. >CoCs do nothing but introduce filibustering in between contributors. >The previous "Code of Conflict" was entirely adequate. The creator of >the Contributor Covenant has written a "Post-Meritocracy Manifesto"[1] >which describes meritocracies as "benefit[ing] those with privilege", >aka social justice bullshit. The Linux kernel community /depends/ on a >meritocracy, and this is absurd. > >The Linux kernel community, as any coding community, is based on >people that do things together, share common goals and principles, >trust each other, and produce actual code. > >Social science is very good for discussing about the plus and minus of >a community, which behaviours are good or bad, which things could be >done in order for the community to become more like this or more like >that. But social science alone does not deliver code. And code is what >your computer needs to run. You can argue as much as you want with >your wifi card, or even yell at it in rage, but that won't convince it >to work without a proper device driver for your OS. That driver needs >a hacker to be written. > >I know that what I say is harsh, and that many people might feel >offended by that, but honestly most of the people I have heard talking >about CoCs and post-meritocracy so far are those who have no clue of >how a large (or even a small) piece of software is put together. There >are obviously exceptions, but are not many, unfortunately. > >The Linux kernel is available to billions of people only thanks to a >bunch of damn good hackers, who have collectively produced code worth >millions of man-months without the need of a silly CoC or of a >post-meritocracy manifesto. IMHO, the only "privilege" they have >enjoyed is to have produced something useful for a lot of >people. Sadly, most of us can only dream about that. > >My2Cents > >KatolaZ Thank you. This is what I was trying to convey, perhaps my lack of proficiency in the English language prevented me from doing so (plus some leftover outrage perhaps). m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Debian Sid -> Devuan Ceres attempt: some issues
Hi, I recently tried to move my debian sid laptop to devuan ceres. Here's what I did: apt install sysvinit-core reboot apt purge systemd nvim /etc/apt/sources.list (changed to ceres repos with [ allow-insecure=yes ]) apt update apt install devuan-keyring nvim /etc/apt/sources.list (removed insecure) apt update apt dist-upgrade (10 packages) reboot At this point everything seemed fine (I had to kill dbus-reply when apt was installing before since it just hanged). Then I tried to install eudev and openrc. apt install eudev openrc At this point openrc warned me to reboot immediately, so I did. Now, at boot it seems like first openrc starts (OpenRC 0.38 is booting Devuan GNU/Linux), but after * Caching service dependencies... The boot reverts to sysvinit-style [ ok ] Starting xxx: done. messages. And now 2 of my LVM volumes have disappeared. lvdisplay reports 4 volumes and "sudo vgchange -aay" reports 4 volumes in group "main" now active though, however the device nodes aren't created, so I suspect this is an eudev problem. What can I do now? m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
On September 18, 2018 1:34:39 PM GMT+03:00, Edward Bartolo wrote: >Quote: > >The aim of MY simple-netaid IS NOT to enrich my CV. I did it for the >project. It seems a selfish self-centred motivation is more >appreciated here. Edward, this behaviour is really uncalled for. If you have a problem with a certain person please take your issue to them, please do not post passive-aggresively here. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of course. That way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go to work and start working without fiddling with the network settings. On September 19, 2018 2:19:05 PM GMT+03:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: >On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 08:13:24AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> El 19/09/18 a las 07:55, J. Fahrner escribió: >> > >> > Am 2018-09-18 11:37, schrieb aitor_czr: >> > >> > > Thanks for your interest on simple-netaid :) >> > > >> > Does simple-netaid not automatically reconnect after >suspend/resume? >> > >> > Jochen >> > >> >> It doesn't. The automatically connect option still is not >implemented. I >> wanted to do the backend of simple-netaid as lightweith as possible. >> Close all the apps, web navigator, etc... and keep running only >> simple-netaid. The CPU requeriment is very low. > >Do we even want to automatically reconnect after a suspend/resume? We >might be resuming in a vastly different environment from where we >suspended. > >-- hendrik >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Etherape's permissions and Linux Capabilities
On September 18, 2018 1:31:56 PM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed etherape 0.9.13-1+b1 and found out it could >not >do anything when run as an unprivileged user: > > >Error opening eth0 : eth0: You don't have permission to capture on that >device (socket: Operation not permitted) - perhaps you need to be root? > > > I could find an "EtherApe (as root)" menu item in my desktop's menu >under System, but it asks for the superuser's password and I don't like >that. > > I then run the following command as root: > > >setcap CAP_NET_RAW=pe /usr/bin/etherape > > > And i can now run etherape as a regular user without entering the >superuser's password or setting the binary SUID root. > > Could this be make a default setting at package installation, or at >least could there be some reference to this setting in the package info >and/or in the command man page? I agree that this should be a package default, not just here but on Debian's side too. Would you like to contact the maintainer or should I? m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] catch 22 situation with mate?
On September 14, 2018 4:02:02 AM GMT+03:00, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >On 2018-09-13 18:02, Antonio Volpicelli wrote: >> Hi, >> Try this: >> >> http://hezeh.org/mate-desktop-on-devuan-ascii/ >> >> _Inviato con LG Mobile_ >> >> > >Why is that not available via the Devuan repos? > >golinux >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng We can ask hezeh to officially maintain the repo for Devuan. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] firefox-esr: no sound after dist-upgrade [solution]
On September 14, 2018 10:56:15 AM GMT+03:00, "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: >Am Freitag, 14. September 2018 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: >> Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 schrieb goli...@dyne.org: >> > On 2018-09-13 14:08, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >> > > Hi all! >> > > >> > > I just did a dist-upgrade on my ascii box. Unfortunately >firefox-esr >> > > was upgraded to 60.2.0. Pulseaudio is installed - it was also >needed >> > > for the last version. But firefox 60.2.0 does not play any sound, >e.g. >> > > youtube and vimeo are silent. Does anybody know how to get the >sound >> > > working again? >> > > >> > > Nik >> > >> > Isn't that where pulseaudio became mandatory? >> >> Yes. But with or without pulseaudio: firefox is silent. >> >> Nik >> > >Ok, found a solution: >- purge all pulseaudio-stuff >- install apulse >- start firefox with "apulse firefox" >- sound working again :-) > >Nik > > > >-- >Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also >sharing with the NSA, CIA ... Suggestion: add apulse to firefox and firefox-esr's Suggests. Would this require a re-packaging? If it's more trouble than its worth then forget about it. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
You can just scan when the GUI's open. Maybe make a timeout after which netaid stops searching for a known network after boot/resume (user-configurable)? This way we have error-tolerance too. On September 19, 2018 3:18:01 PM GMT+03:00, aitor_czr wrote: >Hi, > >El 19/09/18 a las 14:07, Antony Stone escribió: >> On Wednesday 19 September 2018 at 13:01:44, m712 wrote: >> >>> I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of >course. That >>> way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go to >work and >>> start working without fiddling with the network settings. >> From my point of view a suspend/resume should automatically connect >to a known >> network when it wakes up, just as a reboot does. >> >> >> Antony. >> > >This will be easy to do; automatically connect to an available >installed >wifi after suspend/reboot. >The only thing i'd not like to do is to scan the active wifis at every >x >seconds throughout all the >user's session. > >Aitor. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
On September 19, 2018 8:09:52 PM GMT+03:00, Steve Litt wrote: >Long observation of >people resenting CoCs is they want the right to speak cruelly to >individuals and speak cruelly about groups of people, those groups >having nothing to do with the list's core foundation (Linux sans >systemd, in our case). Sorry, Steve, that's intellectually dishonest. You're painting a black-and-white picture of "if people oppose CoCs then they must want to do things not allowed by the CoCs", however in all instances I have encountered where the need for a CoC was disputed I have seen the exact opposite. You do not need a CoC to protect people from bad words, and people who are contributing nothing but insults are quickly killfiled. CoCs do nothing but introduce filibustering in between contributors. The previous "Code of Conflict" was entirely adequate. The creator of the Contributor Covenant has written a "Post-Meritocracy Manifesto"[1] which describes meritocracies as "benefit[ing] those with privilege", aka social justice bullshit. The Linux kernel community /depends/ on a meritocracy, and this is absurd. On an unrelated note, I likened the updating of the kernel CoC to the requirement of Pulse on Firefox: a change nobody wanted but which happened anyway. [1]: https://postmeritocracy.org/, only here for completeness. Save yourself a headache or two. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Mutuality and harmlessness
On November 24, 2018 2:15:39 PM GMT+03:00, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >Dear readers, > >After all what I let go and what I learned in the process of doing so, >I >totally agree with had I heard during some recordings I used. There are > >two essential aspects for any relationship: Mutuality and harmlessness. > >In the current discussions on this list I have seen a great lack in >harmlessness. > >I feel uneasy about posting to this list, cause I absolutely do not >enjoy receiving a mail with a personal attack. I still dare to write >this mail as I know I can let go of any hurt. Also I am free to tell my > >mail server to block mails from persons attacking me or unsubscribe at >any time. > >However I certainly prefer dng-ml being a supportive and safe space for > >discussing all things Devuan. > >I commit to contribute to that by letting go, by carefully writing >mails >and by speaking my own truth. I commit to let go wanting to control any > >other's experience, opinion, belief or preference – especially as there > >are no other. It is not upon me to tell someone else what to think, >what >to believe, what to propose or what to agree with. So I commit to agree > >to disagree wherever there is disagreement or different opinions. > >That appears to happen a lot in this human condition. Ask ten people >about anything and you are very likely to get different answers. Now >what happens if I let go any belief that some of them are true or >right, >preferably my own, and some of them are false or wrong, preferably >those >of apparent others? What is beyond true or false, beyond right or >wrong, >beyond black or white, beyond left or right? What if, just what if this > >world is not binary, like a computer? What if, just what if this world >has all the different colors and none of them are right or wrong? > >Thank you. >-- >Martin Womp womp. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] yet another case of silly Lennartism :p [Fwd: Our build system may be broken: /bin vs /usr/bin]
On November 21, 2018 8:05:44 PM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: >On 21/11/18 at 17:57, Rowland Penny wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:43:12 +0100 >> Alessandro Selli wrote: >> >>> On 21/11/18 at 17:37, Rowland Penny wrote: >>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:28:40 +0100 >>>> Alessandro Selli wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 21/11/18 at 17:22, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 schrieb Hendrik Boom: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I read the discussion at >>>>>>> >https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1642443.html >>>>>>> and it looks as if they fixed the discrepancy at version >3.5.1-2. >>>>>>> Which means if we want to keep sed in /bin instead of /usr/bin >we >>>>>>> may have to patch both packages sed and r-base. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or maybe add a symblic link to make sed accessible from /usr/bin >>>>>>> instead of just /bin. >>>>>> Why would anybody hardcode the link to sed in the first place? >>>>>> Isn't that what $PATH is all about? >>>>> It's necessary to keep script shebangs from breaking. >>>>> >>>> No it isn't, ever heard of 'which' or 'type' or checking if the >file >>>> actually exists. >>>> >>>> Rowland >>>> >>> Of course it is. If you have a file with a shebang like this: >>> >>> >>> #!/bin/sed >>> >>> , which is the norm, see: >>> >>> https://github.com/uuner/sedtris/blob/master/sedtris.sed >>> >>> , then you'd be in trouble if sed moved in /usr/bin. >> Well it would if you were trying to run sed directly, > > > Which side of "sed script with a shebang" do you fail to grasp? This thread is about Debian breaking R. If you want to talk about she-bangs, make your own. /usr/bin/env is also a thing that is pretty standard on Linux distros. > >> but in this case >> it is setting the path to sed as a variable, so, if the script >> '/usr/bin/R' used something like this: >> >> SED="$(which sed)" >> if [ -z "$SED" ]; then >> echo 'sed is not installed' >> exit 1 >> fi >> export SED >> >> instead of: >> SED=/bin/sed >> export SED > > > Try putting this in place of a sed shebang and see what happens to >your sed script. The discussion wasn't about a shell script before you interjected. > >> We wouldn't be having this conversation. > > >... if you were any knowledgeable about shell scripting. Are you trying to have some sort of pissing match? > >>> >>> Of course you know you can't use commands or shell constructs in >>> place of the shebang, you did shell_scripting-101, didn't you? >>> >> We are not talking about the shebang, you did know that, didn't you ? > > > Of course we are, why don't you read before replying? I can't be sure if you are in jest. m712 -- https://nextchan.org -- https://gitgud.io/blazechan/blazechan I am awake between 3AM-8PM UTC, HMU if the site's broken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
