Re: [DNG] Multiple resignations from Freenode's staff ??? New drama shake the opensource

2021-05-20 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Morning @ll, Στις 20/5/21 5:17 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: It appears that Mr. Lee's corporate entity "freenode Limited" has, at least for now, Registrant status for three Internet domains, freenode.net/org/com. Mr. Lee appears to have no other assets relevant to what until now was called

Re: [DNG] Please don't imply this kind of equality: was Re: End of free open source software?

2021-05-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 10/5/21 9:44 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: But trump doesn't rise to hitler's criminality. He didn't build death camps. surely, noone stands up to such "high" standards... except for similar dictators like stalin and lots of kings/feudarchs from earlier centuries... trump facts in

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
sorry, but this subject reads like some yellow-press, bringing end-of-the-world, out of an irrelevant wish? (=speculations, wishes and rumors) and it doesn't even mention FOSS anywhere... so, this all reads like BS (imho), not byuing it. 2c, d. Στις 9/5/21 9:33 π.μ., ο/η tito via Dng

Re: [DNG] network measurement

2021-05-08 Thread Dimitris via Dng
browser delays could be due to slow dns resolving.. i'd also suggest a local caching resolver as ralph suggested... do you ping anything while on these delays? if you're losing many packages, then i'd call ISP first to check dsl line.. some tools for network traffic : iftop, nload, nethogs,

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 5/5/21 11:49 π.μ., ο/η Dr. Nikolaus Klepp έγραψε: And there's alway the possibillity of 3rd party software, e.g. Teams, Appimages, ... true... i misread original question, thought it was asking about devuan installation process and not already installed systems.. d.

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 4/5/21 11:05 μ.μ., ο/η Arnt Karlsen έγραψε: So, there ya go: Avoid installing and running it. It's called system administration simple and powerful advice :) ..very true. Are there ways to trick common Devuan installs into automatically installing these bad things? (Other than

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-22 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Hey Olaf, Στις 22/4/21 11:55 π.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε: Is debfoster smart(er) about asking what you want to keep? As in asking you about the packages that keep most of the other packages installed first (rather than going through potential removals alphabetically)? yes.

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-21 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 21/4/21 2:53 μ.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε: The first time around, there will be quite a long list of packages that are candidates for removal. Even without a desktop environment installed the list can be several tens of packages. Look for the "top-level" kind of packages to

Re: [DNG] dns resolver

2021-04-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 17/4/21 1:36 π.μ., ο/η Ralph Ronnquist via Dng έγραψε: In order to determine which process if any is listening on port 53 (the registered DNS port) do, as root, "netstat -lnp | grep -w 53", or if you prefer less typing "ss -lnp | grep -w 53". another one : `lsof -i :53`

Re: [DNG] Dependency of KDE on lightdm or slim

2021-04-14 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Hey, Στις 13/4/21 4:50 μ.μ., ο/η tito via Dng έγραψε: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 15:48:03 +0200 tito via Dng wrote: is there a reason task-kde-desktop 3.53 has a dependency on lightdm or slim? I ask because I have xfce and kde installed on beowulf and use sddm to manage the display and never

Re: [DNG] help: pyton script problem (after package upg?)

2021-04-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
already reported : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=986637 d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-29 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 29/3/21 6:22 π.μ., ο/η Gregory Nowak via Dng έγραψε: On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:04:11AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:59 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: <-snip-> Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download

Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 26/3/21 3:59 μ.μ., ο/η Lars Noodén via Dng έγραψε: [1]https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe/dng the form[1] uses a (re)captcha. maybe you didn't complete the captcha, or have something like adblock on? for mailman it might also be possible to just send an email to

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 10/3/21 4:30 μ.μ., ο/η Dimitris via Dng έγραψε: but performance-wise is terrible if you're in some low latency connection correction: "high latency". OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 10/3/21 8:07 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: What I was talking about upthread was outsourcing one's recursive nameservice to OpenNIC's public recursive nameserver IPs, or any other stranger's. Because, well, why? Recursive service is dead-easy to do with one's local computing resources,

Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working

2021-03-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 10/3/21 8:02 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: I'd really like to have both icann and opennic root servers in my root.hints. No, you don't. opennic.cache should include the standard TLD nameservers. https://wiki.opennic.org/tier_2_unbound eg. for opennic root servers : # dig . NS

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-08 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 8/3/21 12:29 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: Leaving aside my being disappointed about people willingly outsourcing their recursive DNS to the second-nosiest company on the planet[1] +1.1.1.1 ... don't forget cloudflare bullies.. but i do forward local queries to opennic (w/ dnscrypt) and

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 5/3/21 5:02 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: Found it: The home of Alekos Panagoulis :-) He wasn't as optimistic as you are about your politics even after the fall of papadopoulos i'm not an optimist at all, especially about politics..., but glad some people know of Alekos

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 5/3/21 2:05 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: meet.jit.si works pretty darn well no it doesn't. at least not for everyone.. it's the most popular instance, and because of its popularity -i guess-, really lagging for most users. (doing volunteer support for some groups and noone wanted to try

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 4/3/21 7:20 μ.μ., ο/η Gabe Stanton via Dng έγραψε: posting a youtube link considering my stance against google. check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an alternative p2p platform ;-) OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
hey, Στις 4/3/21 6:35 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: When you say "local", do you mean "south America"? no, i mean a current EU member-state... even though its modern history is more similar to that of Chile and Argentina... And yes, I've forgotten to mention jamaican soul,

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 4/3/21 4:16 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: And so I can't let Steve say something a little like "there was mainly Disco in the 70s". 70s gave us punk/punk rock, hard rock/heavy metal, 2nd wave ska, reggae and some of the greatest rock music ever... around the world, 70s

Re: [DNG] GNUPGP Web of trust

2021-02-28 Thread Dimitris via Dng
haven't been in any online key signing parties, only a handful of physical ones so far (makes more sense seeing/confirming/trusting in person...). but all that, pre-covid... to work around the pandemic somehow, i'd probably start with git.devuan.org. lots of authenticated devuan devs and

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Distribution upgrade issue

2021-02-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
usually i prefer dist-upgrading apt and dpkg before everything else (right after `apt update`). always thought that newest apt is more compatible/tested with new releases.. never really looked/asked if that's true though (...), just a personal "habbit" over previous years of dist-upgrading

Re: [DNG] monit logwatch fail2ban

2021-01-25 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 22/1/21 3:24 μ.μ., ο/η Erich Minderlein via Dng έγραψε: Now I miss the section fail2ban in the logwatch daily mail i don't use monit, just fail2ban and logwatch in some machines. never had any issues with it.. neither in debian nor devuan machines . usually set it up and forget about

Re: [DNG] AppArmor and TorBrowser

2021-01-25 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 22/1/21 4:46 μ.μ., ο/η Haines Brown έγραψε: My messages log tells me that AppArmor status for torBrowser is apparmor="DENIED". "denied_mask="r"" looks like https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=976461 so, this is a problem for torbrowser-launcher really, which contains

Re: [DNG] Finding installed packages, but from a backup

2020-12-31 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 31/12/20 12:50 μ.μ., ο/η Antony Stone έγραψε: I have_all_ files from the machine I want to investigate, and I'm hoping that there's something in /var/cache/apt or /var/lib/dpkg which would allow me to get the same sort of list as the above commands produce. /var/lib/dpkg/status holds all

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-11 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/11/20 12:55 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Is there any way you can remove elogind with apt remove --purge elogind; with xorg installed? yes, running `apt purge elogind` in testing/ceres brings in consolekit instead. don't have a ascii/beowulf with xorg to test, but should be the same.

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: "1989tiananmen". a different password worked. maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? So, hmm, how come a https connection gets intercepted by the Great Firewall? No hacking by the govt is involved here... if it

Re: [DNG] Firefox and its forks are losing the power of add-ons.

2020-12-03 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Hey, On 12/3/20 10:12 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: Dear All, Lately, I am noticing Waterfox has lost the ability to display my If you have other solutions which I did not think of, please suggest them. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Waterfox was sold to an advertising company

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-01 Thread Dimitris via Dng
never learned anything at DW by looking statistics.. some guides and reviews were helpful... On 12/1/20 12:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: fact that Redhat is #64 certainly not a fact. this is just a number without value. just a "Page Hit Rank"... if i was to guess, i'd say "serious corporate

Re: [DNG] acx wireless support

2020-11-27 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 27/11/20 1:54 μ.μ., ο/η Riccardo Mottola via Dng έγραψε: However I see no acx packages at all for Devuan!  Any reason for that? not in Debian either.. https://wiki.debian.org/acx d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] clipboard manager: was: problematic mouse driver?

2020-11-18 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Στις 18/11/20 2:07 μ.μ., ο/η al3xu5 / dotcommon έγραψε: There is also ClipIt (forked from Parcellite, adding bugfixes and features). I do not use neither parcellite nor clipit, so do not know how it is good. was using clipit before, but clipit in debian/devuan nowadays (testing/ceres), just

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 11/3/20 9:55 PM, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: For my part, I've stopped using unbound at all. I've been using BIND for many years, and it works just fine in this role too. depends on the role... bind as a local caching dns for PCs might be overhead. some people would want something

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-25 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 10/25/20 10:07 PM, Dimitris via Dng wrote: but mailpile can be used instead correction: mailvelope (https://www.mailvelope.com/en) OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-25 Thread Dimitris via Dng
forgot to mention seamonkey (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/). -- also these days, webmail/nextcloud can be used as groupware too, with calendars/contacts included.. webmail gpg support is very rare (for a pretty good reason imo), but mailpile can be used instead... d On 10/25/20 9:56

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 10/23/20 10:04 AM, Simon Walter wrote: Has any of you TB users (assuming there are any here} done this migration? How is the new shiny? Is it fine? Shall I forget about TB? Any suggestions of what could replace it? yes it works, but not without issues.. you need to install latest

Re: [DNG] OT: uBlock origin on Firefox: where's the data?

2020-10-12 Thread Dimitris via Dng
In my installation I found this: /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/6jlfbwix.default/extension-data/ublock0.sqlite that looks old behavior, there's a new storage location.. link : https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/2925 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Complete system HDD encryption w/o LLVM.

2020-10-01 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 10/1/20 2:30 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: - /etc? 'cause you might end up saving clear text passwords there ... Oh! I found one below/etc/wpa_supplicant/. There might be others. could also be clear-text : smtp account password(s), network-manager saves

Re: [DNG] X11: safe to remove?

2020-09-29 Thread Dimitris via Dng
iirc (seen it in buster upgrades), pinentry-gtk2 / pinentry-gnome3 bring in xauth package, which brings in X11. i would remove pinentry+xauth packages first, then X11 with autoremove - deborphan, and install pinentry-ncurses later, if needed.. 2c, d. On 9/29/20 4:57 AM, tempforever via Dng

Re: [DNG] Is t worth the effort for SPF?, DMARC>, DKIM?, etc

2020-09-28 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/28/20 11:55 AM, terryc wrote: > Does anyone have any figures on how effective these methods are? > It seems we get a new idea every few years and none make the slightest > difference in spam levels. we use all these + custom SA scores for related rules and seen great decline in spam levels.

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/23/20 11:05 PM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > 1) a more restrictive postfix main.cf than in the guide, so less spam > gets through to rspamd: postfix rejected about 37% of emails last > month, rspamd about 7% with another 5% going to to users spam folders > and is thus reviewable by them.

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/20/20 12:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Easiest possible newbie email server setup, use and support, ideas? in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to deliver much... i'd suggest a host/vps online

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/16/20 3:45 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing >> with /etc/resolv.conf? > No. You are not the only one. tito already wrote the solution for nm in this thread : " This feature could be disabled by adding this to the [main] section:

Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf

2020-08-31 Thread Dimitris via Dng
what about beowulf-security repo? are you syncing all beowulf repos/dists ? On 8/31/20 11:53 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > I moved the repository to http://deb.devuan.org/merged// and it follows > the same problem that does not allow me to install samba from an > installation made with

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-08-29 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 8/30/20 12:35 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > advice is most welcome. maybe a "long shot" , but did you try another cable/adapter/case for that disk? a few badblocks (?) would slow down the whole disk and maybe not open some folder(s)... "input/output error" and smart "read failure" could be

Re: [DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0

2020-08-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 8/26/20 12:00 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > The wireshark-common libsystemd0 dependency is not new AFAIK. What has changed > is that systemd in Debian sid is now version 246 whilst elogind is only 243.7 > (the latest version available). This means that the libsystmd0/libelogind0 > binary ABI

Re: [DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0

2020-08-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
followup, just for reference : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=969023 On 8/26/20 12:48 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-08-25 16:42, Dimitris via Dng wrote: >> was -rarely- using wifite, that depends on tshark+wireshark-common, but >> c

[DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0

2020-08-25 Thread Dimitris via Dng
was -rarely- using wifite, that depends on tshark+wireshark-common, but can live without it.. but was wondering.., should i file a bug report in debian or a new RFP in devuan? debian seems to ignore/discard any non-systemd reports lately, so it would probably stay in wishlist for ever there, eg.

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2020-08-25 Thread Dimitris via Dng
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Re: [DNG] history

2020-08-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 8/7/20 12:36 AM, marc wrote: > People being easily identified and > tracked in real life is something that strengthens authoritarian regimes > (whether fascist or communist) as well coercive corporate interests. there were no communist authoritarian regimes in history.. communist by name

Re: [DNG] Upgrade to Beowulf borks SSH. how to recover.

2020-07-20 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 7/20/20 10:05 AM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > Actually i would plugin kbd & screen before pushing that big red switch. > Once logged in scp or sftp the public key from yourworkstation and move on. +1 --- the password option is still available in beowulf, upgrade couldn't have replaced

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2020-07-20 Thread Dimitris via Dng
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Re: [DNG] OT: mpv drops GNOME support

2020-07-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 7/8/20 9:57 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > > https://linuxreviews.org/Mpv_drops_GNOME_support > the change was reverted, few hours later. (just read commit comments.. ) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Kernel Panic on Qemu - 202005214

2020-05-28 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/21/20 1:10 PM, c...@free.fr wrote: > the actual boot starts... and ends with : maybe there are some other helpful messages in between.. anything like "VFS: x" ? another thing to check, is iso's sha256sum correct? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/23/20 9:54 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > Generally, why does apparmor get installed on a dist-upgrade, when it > wasn't there initially? It isn't as if it's a new "thing". in repos since wheezy.. from beowulf/buster on, it is enabled by default:

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/23/20 8:42 PM, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > The workaround mentioned in the bug report for is to add explicit > permissions in /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.named by adding a line to > that file with the path to the problem file and the permissions. In > this case rwk for read/write/lock. In my

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Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/16/20 11:49 PM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > The only thing it has in favor( we could join to that a simpler way of > configuration, no m4 needed like Sendmail), > it consumes horrendous amounts of resources.. with no explanation for > such hog resources behavior.. but it lacks a ton of features

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/17/20 12:04 AM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > But is a major flaw, being it a init system for a operating system, and > not beign able to run shell scripts( systemd has also this limitation.. ).. you're right about s6, but wrong about systemd. you can run shell scripts with that bloated beast.

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/5/20 12:11 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > Last time I looked at claws (a few years ago) I couldn’t get it to connect to > Exchange/Office365 but perhaps I should take another look if it’s changed > since then? evolution can connect to exchange, and iirc, includes a tray icon by

Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf

2020-05-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/5/20 5:38 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > Are there any other methods to get it installed without compiling from source? you can try ceres version (=1.8.1) to see if it works in beowulf. btw, i think this is a debian bug.. tried to install birdtray on a buster machine and got the same

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed. 1) # wget http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb # dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb or 2) # apt-key adv --keyserver

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-04-14 Thread Dimitris via Dng
hey, On 4/14/20 10:23 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > I upgraded Ascii to Beowulf and successfully used the new version of > Waterfox. However, there are certain issues like a missing copy of > dpkg-reconfigure. does running `/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure` work? that could happen because of

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-13 Thread Dimitris via Dng
68.7 is in beowulf-proposed-updates repos : https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=firefox-esr=beowulf although, i think it should be in beowulf-security.. (?) d. On 4/13/20 2:37 PM, dal wrote: > Installing Beowulf today, I get > > firefox-esr_68.6.1esr-1~deb10u1_amd64.deb >

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/9/20 3:05 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > I have received good service from them. They are in the UK, I'm in > Japan but that wasn't a problem. I got to them via the FSF's RYF > (Respects Your Freedom) site. You might want to check that out. https://minifree.org/ bankrupt, shutting

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/8/20 9:03 PM, tom wrote: > I think it's pretty horrible for Jitsi to flat out block every other > browser than Chrome or Firefox. Jitsi "blocks" firefox too.. jitsi meet officially recommends only chromium-based browsers. work on firefox compatibility has started, but still nothing

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-08 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of something > cloud based and written in Java ? jitsi can be installed anywhere. https://meet.jit.si is cloud based in europe dcs, run by jitsi devs, yes. but you don't have to use that,

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/7/20 9:05 AM, Rod Rodolico wrote: > but it works so far with FF doesn't work for everyone, that's why jitsi suggests the use of chromium based browsers.. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/commit/92740707f01547d4e431050ade1d17589c544629#diff-12cdb961bef2a8b83d0f510226f85495

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Re: [DNG] Fwd: ceres policykit

2020-03-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/26/20 4:39 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > It is fine. If you look in the changelog you will see it documented. The > backend > libraries have been removed in 0.105-26. thanks for the info.. p.s. need to fix key encryption, suddenly tb-enigmail is encrypting all outgoing... signature.asc

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2020-03-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
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[DNG] Fwd: ceres policykit

2020-03-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
once again, plain text.. Forwarded Message Subject: ... Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:34:26 +0200 From: Dimitris To: Dng hey @ll, for the past days i have an "issue" dist-upgrading in a ceres/amd64 machine: # apt dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency

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2020-03-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
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Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
easy to install with the quick install guide, but getting video/audio to work is something i didn't manage.. tried opening all required ports, but still.. gave it up, cause it was just play... (also because it works with g-evil chrome/chromium best/only?) using nextcloud talk atm for personal

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Dimitris via Dng
> wget > https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb > > dpkg --install devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb > resending, last message was encrypted.. --- or : # apt-key adv --keyserver hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys

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2020-03-22 Thread Dimitris via Dng
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Re: [DNG] discord is spyware

2020-03-21 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/21/20 9:39 AM, dalo9fz--- via Dng wrote: > i use matrix.org > though it does not support screen sharing atm nor video.. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?

2020-03-21 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/21/20 8:08 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > I need audio, video, and the ability to show what's on my screen. jitsi meet can do all that. and plenty of instances around (especially these days). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/15/20 9:35 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sat, 14 Mar 23:54:07 -0700 > tom scripsit: >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + >> Mark Rousell wrote: >> >>> I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... >>> >>> On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: involves

Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US

2020-03-03 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/2/20 1:08 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? there are also other non-corp DoH/DoT providers, so default cloudflare setting in ff can be changed.. (eg. https://libredns.gr/). generally, i don't find DoH a problem, i think it's a good measure for

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-02-26 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 2/25/20 10:07 PM, viverna wrote: > LXDE is ancestor of LXQt. However is a wonderful DE mostly with openbox > combination. Openbox is great even alone. MATE with Openbox is a lighter possibility too.. i've been changing DEs, DMs regurarly, but always find myself going back to MATE. (lately i've

Re: [DNG] systemd breaking linuxcnc ...

2020-01-29 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/28/20 6:46 PM, Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote: > run ntpdate from i've witnessed cases in the past where ntpd wasn't time-syncing correctly, and ntpdate saved the date/time. so, IMHO, there's nothing wrong with ntpdate. just 2c, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Beowulf repository weirdness or broken?

2020-01-22 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/21/20 10:44 PM, onefang wrote: > The stinpriza mirror's domain name is mirror.stinpriza.org, the IP is > correct though. I don't know how you ended up with search.stinpriza.org, > perhaps it's in one of your sources files? It's likely that > search.stinpriza.org doesn't actually point to a

Re: [DNG] VMware segmentation fault

2020-01-20 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/19/20 11:22 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > I would like to run Windows 7 or 8 in a virtual machine. Any way to > get it cheaply? virtualbox, kvm ? ( https://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization ) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) > Want to? > > I was forced to at the tender age of 12. > In addition to French. +1 , and i think nowadays they start "wanting to learn english" even younger, about ~6-7 years old.

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/9/20 7:04 PM, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > Hm... in fact I have consolekit installed. And if I try to remove it, apt > wants to install elogind instead. Perhaps consolekit is less bad...? > > consolekit goes away, but do you get synaptic? what happens with : # apt install

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/8/20 8:07 PM, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > if you are referring to the mythical bird that rises from the ashes "φοίνιξ" in ancient greek. any latin-based name, is just a derivative. :D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-03 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/3/20 9:41 AM, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 10:45:28PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> Hi All, >> I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf >> system, and I get this: > > Hi, > > I just pushed a new verion of policykit to beowulf. It could be related >

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-01 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/31/19 9:58 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > I've upgraded standard no-X systems openrc, no-X, task-console-productivity, luks . dist-upgraded from fresh 2.1 release to beowulf. got a segmanation fault during openrc configuration on upgrade and install failed.. no screenshots available, but

[DNG] dotorg heist

2019-12-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
morning @ll, was wondering..., is devuan (and/or dyne) thinking about taking any action concerning the great .org heist? https://savedotorg.org https://act.eff.org/action/help-stop-the-sale-of-public-interest-registry-to-a-private-equity-firm d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests

2019-12-03 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/3/19 10:02 AM, Denis Roio wrote: > My opinion however is this: maintaining a *unique package* of version > controlled init scripts in Devuan is much, much easier than > maintaining a sysvinit script in each different package, forking it. > > I'm not sure about pressing counter-arguments

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27

2019-11-27 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 11/27/19 11:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..act on it. 20years using email, i've roughly seen ~10 replies by digest readers. and as i already said i don't care about it, nor do i think it needs action from devuan side. those who do care (there seem to be a few so far making it a "hot"

Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail

2019-11-27 Thread Dimitris via Dng
below are changes i did a couple of months ago to make the script work.. maybe the versions are changed again, so do check the repo versions to make sure, and manually edit those in the script.. # diff test_rewrite.sh test_rewrite_new.sh 65,66c65,66 <

Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail

2019-11-27 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 11/27/19 11:14 AM, m_ma...@web.de wrote: > Dear all, > > can you please take a look to the servers configuration, i become errors if i > try test_rewrite.sh: this was already reported to mirror@d.o. it's not new.. nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older

Re: [DNG] long delays in waterfox

2019-11-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
waterfox is not in devuan repos, so it's not a devuan thing, you should ask waterfox support for help.. in anycase, i'm running latest binary from antix repo and have no such issues.. waterfox is running fine.. (ff being my premier browser) maybe you should check .xsession-errors, running

Re: [DNG] Why is spamassasin compiling here?

2019-11-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 11/7/19 2:01 PM, hal wrote: >    172609  0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   31 Feb  6  2019 > /usr/include/sys/types.h -> ../x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/types.h i think the problem is there.. symlink(?) to non-existent file.. in a debian stretch system (got no ascii with spamassassin

Re: [DNG] Why is spamassasin compiling here?

2019-11-06 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 11/6/19 3:45 PM, hal wrote: > I've installed the libc6-dev-i386 package to see if it solves it but then I > wondered what is spamassasin doing compiling things anyway? > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/sa-compile signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Mail message headers

2019-10-30 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 10/24/19 11:38 AM, Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote: > > I'm using Roundcube Webmail 1.2.3 on devuan ascii, > I don't have any of those strange http links in these headers. I also > think this is most likely caused by a plugin of your roundcube mail client. occasionaly i'm also, using latest

Re: [DNG] How to fix rng-tools hang

2019-10-29 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 10/28/19 5:24 AM, s@po wrote: > Does anyone knows how to surpass this? probably install haveged in systems without hwrng. other suggestion would be to use `HRNGDEVICE=/dev/urandom` in /etc/default/rng-tools, but that should be avoided for crypto entropy, iirc. signature.asc Description:

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