Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

2022-09-06 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 11:47:33AM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> I think this is all great right up until you need a fixed address for
> something like a mail server or a web server.  So far, I've found IPV6 to be
> unreliable.

I would argue it's easier to get a fixed address with IPv6 than it is
with IPv4. If a provider is using mobile IPv6 to hand out addresses,
or is doing something else preventing users from having a fixed static
IPv6 subnet this is the fault of that provider, and not a deficiency
of the IPv6 protocol.

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Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 09:14:31AM +0200, marc wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems
> have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs
> a notch or two.
> 
> IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message
> such as
> 
>   Our system has detected that this message is likely
>   unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent
>   to Gmail, this message has been blocked. Please visit
>   https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
>   for more information.

I haven't seem gmail rejecting mail from my MX since I setup a skeleton
DMARC a while back. I just checked my logs for the last ten days, and
haven't seen a single rejection from gmail, even though my MX has sent
quite a bit of mail to them during that time.

I have toyed more than once with the question of what would happen if
a group of us running our own mail exchanges made the choice to
reject mail from gmail.com with a 550? If a few of us did it, we might
miss mail we maybe wanted to get. If a bunch of us did it, then a
bunch of gmail users would complain to google. My guess is google's
response would be "this is a free service; if it doesn't work for you,
then don't use it."

As for classic e-mail, I have to concur that's gone. In my book
classic e-mail means no DMARC/SPF/DKIM no valid PTR records, and
sending mail from dynamic IP addresses directly. That's not happening,
and we have the spammers to thank for that. If everyone played nice,
that internet would probably still exist.

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Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

2022-08-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:16:57AM +0200, aitor wrote:
> Amixer is only a piece of alsa-utils. The following utility will do the job:
> 
> $ aplay --list-devices

Yes, that's another way. The /proc method doesn't require remembering
or looking up aplay syntax, or invoking a second utility. So, that's
the method I pointed out. I could have listed both for the sake of
completeness though.

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Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

2022-08-26 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 04:23:38PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or does amixer not have a command to list all cards, 
> with
> their card numbers and maybe device numbers? If this capability is really 
> missing,
> it's quite an omission, as it forces one to trial and error cards.

No, not really. There is a list of cards in /proc/asound/cards.

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Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

2022-08-24 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 10:42:15PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:20:23AM +0200, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > - other mixers for alsa? I do not know...
> 
> aumix has an ncurses interactive mode much simpler than
> alsamixer, and also a command line mode.

amixer has met my needs nicely for a number of years. Takes some
getting used to, but the simplicity makes it worth the effort for me.

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Re: [DNG] elogind on a server?

2022-08-03 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 09:55:23AM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I've just installed a minimal Chimaera on a VM from
> devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_server.iso
> 
> I see that it has installed elogind, but is this required on a server? What
> will I miss if I remove it?

I don't have elogind installed on my server, and don't seem to have
problems. I suppose you can try to purge it, and see what else it
wants to remove before answering yes or no.

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Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi Gregory,
> 
> Gregory Nowak via Dng writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:54:00PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> >> OK but if / and /boot are encrypted, something has to be able to decrypt
> >> that before GRUB can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg.  It might be that GRUB is
> >> able to do that itself these days (haven't checked) but on my LibreBoot
> >> laptop it's the LibreBoot BIOS that does the decrypting, AFAIK.
> >> Hence, my comment.
> >
> > I can confirm that grub2 in at least Beowulf and now Chimaera can deal
> > with decrypting the boot partition if you use LUKS for the encryption:
> >
> > <https://cryptsetup-team.pages.debian.net/cryptsetup/encrypted-boot.html>
> >
> > The archwiki has even more scenarios:
> >
> > <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system>
> 
> Thanks for the pointers.
> 
> >> I was thinking/hoping I could make an encrypted LV, without encrypting
> >> all PVs in the VG.  I use a fair number containers and VMs and don't see
> >> a need to encrypt those.  Actually, I don't see much need for putting
> >> these on RAID1 either :-/
> >
> > You can in fact do what you describe. Make your LV, but instead of
> > creating a file system on it, format it as LUKS, unlock it, and create
> > your file system on /dev/mapper/unlocked_volume.
> 
> I know that but my concern was with increasing LV size.
> 
> For encrypted "partitions", the recommendation is to randomize their
> content before use to make cracking the decryption harder.  If I were to
> randomize the content after initial creation of a LUKS formatted LV, any
> space added afterwards would *not* be randomized.  Hence my idea of
> "just" randomizing content of the *whole* disk (all 256GB of it!) before
> use.

If filling the free space on the disk with random data is important to
you, then just filling the entire disk with random data before use is
probably the best way to go. You can then resize volumes in the future
without having to worry that the free space is being filled with non
random data. Do note that you don't want to enable discards in
lvm.conf (this is the default) if you want to be sure unencrypted data doesn't 
end up on the
disk. By not enabling discards, you are decreasing the life of your
flash, by how much, I'm not sure. I suspect that would depend on how
frequently the disk is written to. I keep my encrypted volumes on
RAID10 spinning disks, so this isn't a trade off I've had to deal with.

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Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-25 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:54:00PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> OK but if / and /boot are encrypted, something has to be able to decrypt
> that before GRUB can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg.  It might be that GRUB is
> able to do that itself these days (haven't checked) but on my LibreBoot
> laptop it's the LibreBoot BIOS that does the decrypting, AFAIK.
> Hence, my comment.

I can confirm that grub2 in at least Beowulf and now Chimaera can deal
with decrypting the boot partition if you use LUKS for the encryption:



The archwiki has even more scenarios:



> I was thinking/hoping I could make an encrypted LV, without encrypting
> all PVs in the VG.  I use a fair number containers and VMs and don't see
> a need to encrypt those.  Actually, I don't see much need for putting
> these on RAID1 either :-/

You can in fact do what you describe. Make your LV, but instead of
creating a file system on it, format it as LUKS, unlock it, and create
your file system on /dev/mapper/unlocked_volume.

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Re: [DNG] Upgrade & migrate?

2022-07-06 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
I stand to be corrected, but I think not supported simply means if you
get yourself into trouble, you keep the pieces, not that it can't be
done. I upgraded a couple of systems from Ascii directly to Chimaera a
while ago, and it went well for the most part. From what I recall, I
had to intervene to resolve cryptsetup-initramfs and cryptsetup-bin by
hand, and maybe another package or two. I am not recommending someone
try that, unless you feel comfortable dealing with dpkg, and have a
fairly good grasp of manually resolving package dependencies. If
someone reads this, tries skipping devuan versions and ends up with a
mess, I'm not responsible.

Greg


On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 05:56:24PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I notice that https://www.devuan.org/ states that "Devuan Chimaera can be 
> installed as an upgrade from Devuan Beowulf or migrated from Debian Bullseye. 
> Note that skipping releases is not supported."
> 
> I seem to recall that earlier releases could be:
> 
>  - migrated from the equivalent Debian release (eg: Buster -> Beowulf)
> 
>  - upgraded from the previous Devuan release (eg: Ascii -> Beowulf)
> 
>  - upgraded and migrated from the previous Debian release (eg: Stretch -> 
> Beowulf)
> 
> Is that last option still valid for eg: Buster -> Chimaera?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Antony.
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Re: [DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop

2022-04-23 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:25:49AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> Here's a devuan chimaera minimal-live iso with grub-efi-amd64-signed.
> Please let me know if it works with secure boot. Thanks.

Thanks fsmithred. The image you provided has the same issue as the
previous image "secure boot violation." I suspect the grub signature
isn't the problem. If it were, I'm 90% sure the USB drive wouldn't
show as boot media in the boot menu. I suspect the problem is the UEFI
expects something signed by Microsoft.

I was able to sort of solve my problem by creating a windows system
image from within windows itself. It not only restores in a virtual
machine, but also boots. Everything in the restored system seems to be
as it was when I created the system image, including the recovery
partition. Thanks for your help fsmithred.

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[DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop

2022-04-20 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hello everyone.

I need to backup a windows 10 laptop which I don't use, but need to
provide support for. This is a UEFI machine with secure boot enabled.

When I plug in a custom devuan install I have on a pen drive which
I've setup for such things, the system doesn't even recognize the
drive is plugged in when in the boot menu. This is most likely because this
is a system with grub2 booting from MBR which works for my other use
cases. So, I decided to dd the devuan Chimaera minimal live amd64 UEFI
iso to a pen drive. When I try to boot with the minimal live drive
attached, the drive is
recognized, but I get a message about invalid signature, secure boot
violation. Pressing enter on that just takes me back to the boot
menu.

Is there some way for me to get a valid signature from the existing
windows 10 install on that machine, and remaster the minimal live iso
to include that?

Removing the MVME drive and just backing it up on another system is
something else I've considered. However, to do so, I need to remove a
sticker over one of the screw holes in the case, which would void the
warranty. This is something I don't want to do, and I also don't look
forward to cracking open this thin laptop case.

I also hesitate to disable secure boot. Even if I could do that on
this laptop, I would need someone else to read the UEFI screens to me
while I did that. From what I've read, disabling and enabling secure
boot isn't just a simple toggle operation. I also don't want to make
the existing windows install unbootable before I backup the machine.

So, remastering the minimal live image to have a valid secure boot
signature seems the simplest way forward. Any help on figuring out on
how to get a valid signature, and remastering the iso image would be
much appreciated. Pointers to web pages are good enough. This is my
first time dealing with secure boot, so please excuse me if I'm slow
on the uptake. In case it matters, the machine in question is an MSI
GF63 Thin 10SCXR-222. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: [DNG] How to port Devuan to a different ARM board?

2022-04-08 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:04:19AM +0800, Jeremy Ardley via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in running devuan on an orange Pi R1 (H3 ARM processor).
> 
> It's not listed as an available image, so I'd be quite happy to build one if
> someone can give me the procedures required.

As far as I know, the embedded images are built using the devuan
arm-sdk:



I haven't looked into the sdk much, but there might be enough info
there to figure out how to adapt it to build images for a new board.

There is also:



which seems to document support for the h3 board. Good luck.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] installing Wine 32

2022-03-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Redirecting back to the list.


On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 01:04:14PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 04:26:32PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 03:47:43PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> > > Your suggestion made me feel rather guilty until I checked after doing 
> > > update/upgrade
> > > 
> > >   $ aptitude show wine | less
> > >   Version: 5.0.3-3
> > >   State: installed
> > > 
> > > Are you running Ceres?
> > 
> > Indeed. The version of wine on multiple chimaera systems I have
> > installed is 5.0.3-3.
> > 
> > Here's how you install wine32:
> > 
> > dpkg --add-architecture i386
> > apt update
> > apt install wine32:i386
> > 
> > Greg
> 
> Not much luck. I did the first two steps and then
> 
>   # apt install wine32:i386
>   Reading package lists... Done
>   ...
>   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>libasound2-data : Breaks: libasound2:i386 (< 1.2.5.1-1) but 1.2.4-1.1 is 
> to be installed
>Recommends: alsa-ucm-conf but it is not going to be 
> installed
>libcurl4:i386 : Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 (>= 1.17) but it is not 
> installable
>  Recommends: ca-certificates:i386
>libwrap0:i386 : Depends: libnsl2:i386 (>= 1.0) but it is not installable
>perl-base : PreDepends: libc6 (>= 2.29) but it is not installable
>  PreDepends: libcrypt1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but it is not installable
>  PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.17.17)
>ucf : Depends: coreutils (>= 5.91)
>   E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

My bad. You don't need to append the architecture. So just:

apt install wine32

or if you prefer

apt-get install wine32

should work.

> 
>   # dpkg --configure -a
>   [no feedback]
> 
>   # apt-get dist-upgrade
>   ...
>   The following packages have been kept back:
>   xdg-desktop-portal-gtk  
>   ...
>   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   xdg-desktop-portal-gtk : Depends: xdg-desktop-portal (>= 1.14.0)
>   E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.   
>   
>   # aptitude show xdg-desktop-portal
>   Package: xdg-desktop-portal
>   Version: 1.8.1-1
>   State: installed
>   ...
>

This looks like an unrelated issue. If xdg-desktop-portal isn't
something you use, purging it as in:

apt-get purge xdg-desktop-portal

should resolve that for you. I seem to recall someone else posted to
the list with this issue a few days ago. From what I recall from that
thread, xdg-desktop-portal got pulled in by something else, but wasn't
actually needed.

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[DNG] signatures with expired gpg keys

2022-03-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hello all.

There are a couple people who keep posting to this list messages
signed with expired gpg keys. Can those individuals please either
update the expiration for your keys, or stop  signing messages you
post to this list? thank you.

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Re: [DNG] installing Wine 32

2022-03-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 03:47:43PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Your suggestion made me feel rather guilty until I checked after doing 
> update/upgrade
> 
>   $ aptitude show wine | less
>   Version: 5.0.3-3
>   State: installed
> 
> Are you running Ceres?

Indeed. The version of wine on multiple chimaera systems I have
installed is 5.0.3-3.

Here's how you install wine32:

dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt update
apt install wine32:i386

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Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply - SOLVED

2022-03-22 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:38:05AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> In any case, by enabling the 5GHz radio with AC mode,
> WPA2-PSK and 80MHz signal width my BCM43228 associated with
> the router and received an IP address. 

I'm not familiar with that particular chipset. However, based on the
above, that would suggest your network card presents the 5 GHz radio
on wlan0, and the 2.4 GHz radio on wlan1.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:54:06PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> With both available USB-WiFi-Dongles (rtl8192cu and rt2800usb), I can
> see the devices 
> 
>   $ iw dev
>   $ iw list
> resp.
>   $ iw phy0 info
>   
> as well as the available networks
> 
>   $ iw wlan0 scan
> 
> but dhclient times out, when querying the "Fritzbox":
> 
>   No DHCPOFFERS received.
>   No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 
> Installing NetworkManager via Android-AP and '/etc/network/interfaces',
> as an "emergency workaround", solved the issue for now. Interestingly, 
> 
>   $ iw dev
> 
> tells me, that I am not connected with 5GHz, as I first had assumed,
> but on
> 
>   channel 11 (2462 MHz), width: 20 MHz, center1: 2462 MHz

I saw something similar on openwrt 21 on a gl.inet ar750 router. What
they did was to switch around the frequencies used by wlan0, and
wlan1. This was done by defining the band to use in the radio0 and
radio1 sections of /etc/config/wifi. How that actually does what it
does behind the scenes of UCI abstraction I wasn't able to figure out.

The result of this was that I needed to rmmod the modules used by one
card, run wifi down, uncomment the band lines in each radio section, and run
wifi up with no networks enabled in order to scan for networks on a
particular band, and then I needed to run wifi down,
reverse changes in /etc/config/wifi, modprobe modules, and run wifi up to 
connect to a
network.

I wondered why they did this, until I discovered that using I believe the 5 GHz
radio in the 5 GHz band caused both wifi radios to become
unresponsive. I needed to either reboot the router, or rmmod all wifi
modules, and modprobe them again to regain wifi functionality.

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Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

2022-03-12 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 09:40:15AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> After doing an apt-get upgrade, I can get a a wifi
> connection, for example using wpa_gui, however dhclient just
> times out. 

I haven't been able to get to e-mail for a few days, so am coming late
to this. If you haven't gotten this resolved, it sounds like you're
saying that you associate with the access point in the GUI, but then
run dhclient, and don't get an IP address. Do I understand you
correctly? If not, can you please explain in more detail what happens?
No screenshots please, unless someone else is able to look at them,
and pickup from there.

> 
> Do you have any suggestions for how to troubleshoot this?

If I understand that you can associate with the access point through
wpa_gui, what does iwconfig(8) say? If iwconfig says the adapter is
associated with the access point, can you configure a static IP
address valid on your network, and does that work, or do you still
have no internet connection.

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[DNG] solved: Re: usb keyboard detection in initramfs

2022-02-19 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 02:57:11PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> The problem is that my usb keyboard doesn't seem to be detected in the
> initramfs. Once I unlock the partition from the serial console, boot
> proceeds as expected, and everything is fine.

Turns out the problem was that the kernel can't output to multiple
consoles. I thought it could output to all consoles specified as
console parameters to the kernel. After specifying tty1 as the only
console in cmdline.txt, I rebooted, waited a couple of minutes to be
sure, and typed in the password to devrypt mmcblk0p2 on the usb
keyboard. Lo and behold, about 30 seconds after that I heard orca
announce "screen reader on" through the rpi's 3.5M audio jack.

For the record, the only usb modules I have in
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules at this point are:

usbhid, hid, and hid_generic in that order. Thanks for the suggestion
anyway Tito.

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[DNG] usb keyboard detection in initramfs

2022-02-18 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hello everyone.

I have a raspberry pi 3b arm64 sd card which I recently upgraded in
stages from jessie to chimaera. This card has the second partition
encrypted, so I need an initramfs to decrypt it.

The problem is that my usb keyboard doesn't seem to be detected in the
initramfs. Once I unlock the partition from the serial console, boot
proceeds as expected, and everything is fine.

In /etc/initramfs-tools/modules I have:

# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs(8) to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod

evdev
ecb
xts

# USB keyboard at boot
usbhid
hid
hid_generic
ohci_pci


I doubt I need ohci_pci for the rpi3, but I saw references on the web
stating that it is needed for a usb keyboard, so included it just in
case.

The screen during the boot process until the unlock prompt says:

[7.851176] hub 1-0:1.0: 1 port detected
Begin: Loading essential drivers ... [7.973790] hid: raw HID
events driver (C) Jiri Kosina
[7.998803] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[8.008273] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[8.083812] ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI)
Driver
[8.108252] ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
[8.123583] ehci-pci: EHCI PCI platform driver
[8.136873] ohci-pci: OHCI PCI platform driver
done.
Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done.
Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top
...[8.164405] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using
dwc2
 [8.203533] urandom_read: 2 callbacks suppressed
 [8.203543] random: lvm: uninitialized urandom read (4 bytes read)
 [8.380597] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0424,
 idProduct=9514, bcdDevice= 2.00
 [8.396897] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0,
 SerialNumber=0[8.409579] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found
 [8.411407] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3
 [8.417808] hub 1-1:1.0: 5 ports detected
 [8.427132] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.43.0-ioctl (2020-10-01)
 initialised: dm-de...@redhat.com
 Please unlock disk mmcblk0p2_crypt:

If I plug and unplug the keyboard at this point, I don't see any
detection messages. I do see later on that after the root fs is
mounted, udevd is started. Also, if I boot with the keyboard
unplugged, login, look at lsmod, plug the keyboard again, and look at
lsmod again, no new modules are loaded, but the keyboard is
detected. So, I think I have all necessary modules in the initramfs,
but no udevd.

Should udev be in the initramfs? If yes, what should I look at to find
out why it isn't in the initramfs. If udevd shouldn't be in initramfs,
then something else would have to detect devices on the usb bus in the
initramfs. What is that something?

This used to work perfectly fine under jessie. If more info is needed,
I'll be happy to provide it. Thanks in advance for any tips. If this is
documented somewhere, and I haven't been able to find it in my
research, a pointer to that documentation would be good enough.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

2022-01-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 03:14:31PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> This is an older thinkpad, I think it's unlikely to need
> extra firmware. When I try to install firmware-misc-nonfree I'm told:
> 
> Package firmware-misc-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another 
> package.
> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
> is only available from another source
> 
> I do have firmware-linux-nonfree installed. 

Hmmm, OK. Well, firmware-linux-nonfree should pull in
firmware-misc-nonfree, so your probably fine as far as that goes, and
you probably have a bad ethernet chip.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

2022-01-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:40:36PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:05:06PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote:
> > Joel Roth wrote:
> > > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > > Is there anything different in the dmesg(1) output for eth1 than
> > > > for your other interfaces?
> > >
> > > bingo:
> > >
> > > [467072.902423] e1000e :00:19.0 eth1: Hardware Error
> > >...
> > > This is a used Thinkpad pad, recently purchased.
> > > Fortunately usb-ethernet adapters are easily available.

I'm not sure, but is it possible your ethernet chip is one which
requires firmware from the firmware-misc-nonfree package?

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

2022-01-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hi Joel,
redirecting back to the list.


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:44:55PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Thank you for the response, Gregory. 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 03:33:01PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:37:52AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> > > It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means
> > > the ISP does so as well.
> > 
> > Just because a router uses IPv6, doesn't necessarily mean the ISP
> > supports it.
>  
> > > My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet.  On IRC
> > > I was advised to try
> > > 
> > > ping ff02::1%eth1
>  
> > Just to make sure, the interface connected to your router is in fact
> > eth1, and not eth0, right?
>  
> Yes, it's eth1.
>  
> > > which fails to get a response, indicating IPv6 is not enabled in my 
> > > client.
> > 
> > Posting the actual output might help.
>  
> Usually ping (with no options) periodically returns a line
> with the time taken for the round trip. In this instance,
> one line beginning with PING and nothing more. 
> 
> > > I tried setting "iface eth1 inet6 dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces, 
> > > then "ifup eth1".  This fails with 
> > > 
> > > no link-local IPv6 address for eth1 
> > 
> > Even if your interface isn't able to configure a global IPv6 address,
> > it should still get a link local address starting with fe80.
> 
> This is the problem. I don't have a link local address:
> 
> $ ifconfig eth1
> eth1: flags=4099  mtu 1500
> ether 28:d2:44:1a:e0:ca  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> device interrupt 20  memory 0xf250-f252 

You don't seem to have an IPv4 address, even for obtaining a dhcp
lease. Is this what you expect? If not, then the problem would seem to
be wider in scope than just IPv6.

> 
> > Also, before modifying /etc/network/interfaces, I would advise doing
> > ifdown eth1, modifying the file, and then ifup eth1. Instead of inet6
> > dhcp, I would suggest:
> > 
> > iface eth1 inet6 auto
> > 
> > My understanding is this should use either dhcp6, or RA/NDP to
> > configure it.
> 
> > What does the following output:
> > 
> > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
> > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6
> > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth1/disable_ipv6
> 
> All zeroes. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel Roth
> 

Do you have network-manager or the like installed which could be
trying to configure the interface on its own?

Is there anything
different in the dmesg(1) output for eth1 than for your other
interfaces?

Since ifconfig is depricated, what does:

ip address show eth1

give you?

What does:

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth1/autoconf

output?
Other than that, that's all I can think of at the moment.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

2022-01-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:37:52AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means
> the ISP does so as well.

Just because a router uses IPv6, doesn't necessarily mean the ISP
supports it.

> 
> My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet.  On IRC
> I was advised to try
> 
> ping ff02::1%eth1

Just to make sure, the interface connected to your router is in fact
eth1, and not eth0, right?

> 
> which fails to get a response, indicating IPv6 is not enabled in my client.

Posting the actual output might help.

> 
> I tried setting "iface eth1 inet6 dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces, 
> then "ifup eth1".  This fails with 
> 
> no link-local IPv6 address for eth1 

Even if your interface isn't able to configure a global IPv6 address,
it should still get a link local address starting with fe80.
Also, before modifying /etc/network/interfaces, I would advise doing
ifdown eth1, modifying the file, and then ifup eth1. Instead of inet6
dhcp, I would suggest:

iface eth1 inet6 auto

My understanding is this should use either dhcp6, or RA/NDP to
configure it.

What does the following output:

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth1/disable_ipv6

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Re: [DNG] no ttyS0 - Chimaera, vanilla kernel 5.10.0-10 on Atom C2750

2021-12-29 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 08:15:54PM +0100, Andrzej Peszynski wrote:
> I am trying to use onboard RS-232 @ supermicro A1Sai-2750 with Intel C2750,
> Devuan Chimaera, vanilla kernel 5.10.0-10-amd64. In BIOS the ports COM1 and
> COM2 are configured on 24MHz/13.

24MHz/13 makes no sense here, unless you're trying to use an IrCOMM
device. If the serial section of your UEFI/BIOS has IRDA support, you
want to disable that if you just want to use a standard serial port.

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Re: [DNG] Ryzen?

2021-12-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 06:54:41PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> I'm sure I've read somewhere (and not especially recently) that Linux on AMD 
> Ryzen CPUs can be unreliable and/or surprisingly poor performance.

Yes, ryzen had issues in its early days:







I'm running Beowulf on a custom built ryzen 7 1800x system with a MSI
b350 gaming plus motherboard with a custom compiled 5.15.11 kernel
with no problems. While this is considered old hardware at end of
2021, I'm still amazed by how fast it is compared to what I was used
to for a long time before building this machine.

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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-15 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> Installed apulse.  Still no sound in firefox, or xine.

Simply installing apulse doesn't mean applications will start using
it. You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
application you want to use it. Sounds tedious, but once you either
write a shell script, or modify a desktop shortcut to call the
application in question (I.E. /usr/bin/apulse your_application_binary), you can 
run the application as usual from
then on.

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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-13 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 06:57:02PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> Next, I may take out pulseaudio and verify
> that firefox works on my system with apulse.  Then I can be rid of both of
> them.

Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without pulseaudio
or apulse. So, I suggest verifying firefox works for you without
apulse first.

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Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 05:12:59AM +1000, onefang wrote:
> If you mean email server as well as client, on the server side I picked
> courier, coz it supplise most of the bits, which all work well together. 
> Every other email server solution means gleuing together various bits
> from different developers.

If you want to setup an e-mail server, be prepared to read
documentation carefully, and do lots of web searching. With antispam
measures like spf and dkim, the process is more complicated than when I
started running my own server in 2002.

I started out with qmail, and am on postfix for over ten years now. I
chose postfix, because I find it easy to configure, feature rich, and
because it supports sendmail milters. I did look at the courier
package, but seem to vaguely recall it didn't provide all the features
I wanted. I however use courier imap/pop3, and sqwebmail integrated
with postfix.

If all you're wanting is to move from webmail to an e-mail client,
then I use fetchmail to grab mail from my server, standard mutt to
read it in a text console, and postfix configured to send outgoing
mail to my server as smarthost. I use those three packages because
they work for me, and I haven't had the need to look for something
else.

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Re: [DNG] Install OpenSSL (libssl, libcrypto) with weak ciphers

2021-07-21 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:20:50PM +0100, Mike Tubby wrote:
> I am trying to migrate a legacy system from Ubuntu 16.04 to Devuan 3.0 where
> we have mobile IoT devices based on Cinterion TC65i that are 10+ years old
> with a limited sub-set of SSL 3.0/TLS 1.0 ciphers in its Java-ME runtime, in
> particular we need DES/3DESciphers like RSA-3DES-CBC-SHA

There's an easier way. Just install the openssl packages already
provided in Devuan 3. Edit /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf, and change the last
line from:

CipherString = DEFAULT@SECLEVEL=2

to:

CipherString = DEFAULT@SECLEVEL=1

This will weaken the security of your ssl connections, but it sounds
like you are already prepared to accept that risk.

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Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-18 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 03:46:56PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> Bionic is an Ubuntu release. You should be using buster-pgdg repository for 
> postgresql apt as Devuan Beowulf is directly based on Debian Buster. Devuan 
> has no direct relationship with Ubuntu.

I don't recall seeing buster in the provided release output, which is
why I suggested using bionic. If buster is indeed present, and I
missed it, then buster should indeed be used. Apologies for the confusion.

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Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-17 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 09:38:13PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> - - - - no mention of Beowulf and that means a - - - no go - - - - at least
> as far as I can tell.
> 
> Any ideas?

Bionic is based on buster, and therefore similar to Beowulf. If the
repository has bionic, use bionic if installing on Beowulf.

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Re: [DNG] PartialSolve Re: Chimaera; Lost sound

2021-05-21 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 06:21:12PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> YMMN, but that is all I need as I do not have any HDMI speakers or USB
> speakers, or bluetooth speakers.

My solution was to simply blacklist the module for the HDMI
audio. Glad you got it to a state that works for you.

> 
> This fixed it for vlc, qasmixer and alsamixer in that they correctly
> took the speakers I wanted as default and I didnt have to manually
> select the motherboard sound chip.
> 
> I'm still working on why the browsers(falkon & firefox-esr) and
> quiterss(what ever browser it loads) are not playing sound.

I can't speak to any of the other browsers, but can tell you I get
sound in firefox-esr on a Chimaera install without pulseaudio, and
without apulse. Removing pulseaudio is all I did, I didn't do anything
to firefox itself.

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Re: [DNG] Chimaera; Lost sound

2021-05-20 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 12:52:29PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> I carried out the install from the recommended(last) chimera iso and
> all basically was well. Sounds was there, but I didn't want pulseaudio
> and removed it and installed alsa, alsaplayer, alsamixer, etc.
> 
> But I have no sound. It seems to have something to do with certain
> drivers for PCMs not being installed.

What does

amixer -c0 get PCM
amixer -c1 get PCM

give you?

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Re: [DNG] Beowulf; Increasing the number of boot options under grub. How To?

2021-05-18 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:15:50PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> I understand the easiest method to install chimaera is a minimal
> beowulf install and the the usual dist-grade route. As outline by
> Florian about a month ago. (TY)

There is a netinst image available for both amd64 and x86 of Chimaera on
files.devuan.org.

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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-04-03 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:47:48AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> - Link arm-files.devuan.org from the main site as Greg suggests.
> - Make a sticky thread in the forum pointing to arm-files.devuan.org

Yes, I think that would be perfect. Both actions would make folks
aware of arm-files.devuan.org on the main devuan site, as well as
those browsing the forums, but who don't visit the main devuan site.

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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-04-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:57:21PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Greg,
> 
> Have you not seen this thread on the forum? Because it is not a community
> project, it is presented differently that the official devuan isos.
> 
> Location is: Index » ARM Builds » Installer images for armel, armhf and
> ppc64 need testing
> 
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3351
> 
> There is a link to that thread on the Download page of the website.
> 
> golinux

Yes, I saw that thread. However, the links point to
pkgmaster.devuan.org. The first mention of arm-files.devuan.org is in
a post by garyz.dev1, which is quite a way down in the discussion. The readme
file with the login credentials for the embedded images doesn't seem to be
anywhere on pkgmaster.devuan.org as far as I can tell.

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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-04-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:24:30PM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote:
> Strange, I can see a https://arm-files.devuan.org/README.txt, it contains
> this annotation:
> 
> Beowulf 3.0.0 credentials:
>   devuan:'devuan'
>   root  :'toor'
> 
> Beowulf 3.1.0 credentials (rpi-img-builder based):
>   pi:'board' (with passwordless SUDO :-O )
> ___

When reading the first post in this thread, I heard "files.devuan.org"
instead of "arm-files.devuan.org" and went looking in the former. What
I would like to know is where is arm-files.devuan.org referenced off
of the main www.devuan.org site? The only references there I noticed
about embedded devices go to the forum, and a quick look at the forum
pages didn't make it obvious to me that arm-files.devuan.org
exists. Perhaps a reference to arm-files.devuan.org should be made
more prominent on www.devuan.org if it already exists there? Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:59:01AM +0100, tux...@sapo.pt wrote:
> >In the SBC world, kernels are tailored to specific hardware..
> >
> >Installing a generic kernel without having the correct Device tree Source,
> >or Binary files,or even the needed kernel drivers, will probably render
> >your system unusable..

Yes, I'm well aware of that.

> >
> >I strongly advise you to not do that..
> 
> Instead use the Image for Beowulf, for RaspBerryPi 2:
> http://arm-files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_armhf_rpi2.img.xz
> 
> Its an updated image with last kernel and all functionality, including
> Raspberry PI Userland tools, which means drivers to interact with camera,
> videocore, and such..
> 
> Its well supported, and its a recent release: 04-Mar-2021
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> tux

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not going to replace my existing
install with a fresh one, and then reconfigure that to match the old
install; that would take me a couple of weeks. I'm upgrading this unit
to Beowulf as I type, and have chosen to go with the already built
firmware from the raspberrypi repository on github, which is what I've
done until now, and which seems to have what I need still. I may play
with the raspi-firmware package later, but that will be on a test
install. If I determine that route meets my need and is easier to
upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade, I may switch to it in the
future. Thanks to everyone for your help. I consider the issue solved.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-30 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 09:44:24PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> For my regular Pi's i just have the following in my apt sources
> 
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main
> deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main
> 
> and this just works.

So, I see there is a linux-image-4.19.0-16-armmp package, which just
provides the kernel in /boot. I also see there is a raspi-firmware
package, which seems to work with the kernel and initramfs-tools to provide
firmware in /boot/firmware. It looks like /boot should be in the root
file system, and /dev/mmcblk0p1 should now be mounted as
/boot/firmware, correct? Does installing linux-image-4.19.0-16-armmp
and raspi-firmware in Beowulf provide the necessary kernel and
firmware to boot a raspberry pi, or are there more packages I need?
For completeness, I'm upgrading to Beowulf on a raspberry pi 2b. Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-29 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:42:00AM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> this package is ascii (not beowulf), so you probably need :
> 
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii raspi
> 
> d.

I guess that would explain why it's not indexed in Beowulf. When I add
the above to my sources.list and apt-get update, I get:

W: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease
Unable to find expected entry 'raspi/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release
file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
 
Since this isn't a Beowulf package, I'm probably better off just
fetching the latest firmware from Raspberry Pi's github repo, or cross
compile my own from linux stable, since I seem to recall that the
Raspberry Pi code made it into the main kernel.org source tree a while
ago. Thanks to everyone for your help.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:04:11AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:59 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng 
>  wrote:
> <-snip->
> > 
> 
> > Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct
> > package manually, and install with dpkg -i? 
> 
> 
> You don't say what the 'correct' package is that you wish to install.
> 

Good point:

http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/linux-image-raspi_4.20.4-3_armhf.deb

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[DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hi all.

I want to add:



to my sources.list. However, this seems to be a dangling directory
with no references to it in the package indexes. I've tried two forms
in sources.list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/

which returns:

W: Failed to fetch
http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/Packages  404
Not Found

and another form:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf raspi

which returns:

W: Failed to fetch
http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease  Unable
to find expected entry 'raspi/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release file
(Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

Both of these errors make sense, since this is a dangling directory
like I said.

Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct
package manually, and install with dpkg -i? If what I want to do is
possible, then could someone please post the correct format for the
sources.list entry? Thanks.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-03-26 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:30:45PM +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
> I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the
> default password is annotated.  It's not on either of these pages:
> 
>   https://arm-files.devuan.org/
>   https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan
> 
> And no README file seems to be present.  What is the default
> user/password for those images?

I also am unable to find where this is documented. If memory serves
though, the user is root, and the password is toor (root
backwards). Try if that works.

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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:
> I have no problem with a curses version but i suspect that i use the wrong
> program. Sometimes I fill blind.
> The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
distribution based on devuan.

> 
> so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Which ever one you would like. If you want to use Refracta, that's
fine. I believe the maintainer of Refracta is on this list, and so are
other Refracta users hopefully as well. For reference, it sounded to
me like you were using the devuan installer such as:



This can be booted from a USB flash drive also, and this is what I
use. Again, I'm not trying to dissuade you from using Refracta if that
is what you want to use. This illustrates the importance of describing
exactly what someone is using, and what documentation they are
following.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-01 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Radisson, unless you have a specific reason to reply to me directly,
please reply to the list instead. Having the entire group see the
discussion means that maybe others can help you where I'm not able
to. Redirecting back to the list.


On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 05:10:34PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Gesendet: Montag, 01. Februar 2021 um 03:33 Uhr
> > Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> > An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> > Betreff: Re: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> >
> > Redirecting back to the list.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > > > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > > > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > > > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > > > Hello list,
> > > > >
> > > > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > > > >
> > > > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> > > >
> > > > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > > > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> > > >
> > > > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > > > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > > > installed into /.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You got me wrong,  i started the
> > > installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole 
> > > setup
> > > was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.
> >
> > OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
> > used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
> > installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
> > system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
> > appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
> > must still have been created,
> 
> It has been but only with / and swap
> 
> else the system wouldn't boot; it just
> > wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
> > able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
> > partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
> > placed in the partitions I wanted.
> 
> the point "text installer" make me nervios
> 

That's understandable, not everyone likes a purely text interface,
where what you want to do is chosen by typing numbers from a list. I
mention the text installer only because that is the one which I have
used, so can't speak to any of the GUI versions.

> > You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
> > followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
> > in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
> > at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
> > to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
> > ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.
> >
> 
> I used the installer from Beowulf image (copied to usb-stick), is there 
> anything else ?
> 
> I did:
> -boot from Stick -> gfx comes up
> -choose icon  install devuan
> -- after showing me the partitions, i run gparted
> and end up with a single partition install
> 
> were is the wrong turn ?

I haven't used the graphical Beowulf installer, and I use partman
instead of gparted during the install, so this is as far as I can help
you. Hopefully others more familiar with the process you're using will
be able to help you figure out how to create a custom partitioning
scheme with gparted.

Greg

> 
> 
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > > I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what 
> > > > you were
> > > > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Redirecting back to the list.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > >
> > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> >
> > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> >
> > >
> > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> >
> > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > installed into /.
> >
> 
> You got me wrong,  i started the
> installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole setup
> was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.

OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
must still have been created, else the system wouldn't boot; it just
wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
placed in the partitions I wanted.

You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.

Greg


> I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> 
> > >
> > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > >
> >
> > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what you 
> > were
> > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-30 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> 
> I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.

I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
able to do manual partitioning without problems.

> 
> The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.

If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
installed into /.

> 
> Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> 

Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what you were
expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.

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Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> I think Debian Jessie is 32 bit.  To upgrade to Beowulf I just followed
> instructions that didn't say anything about 32 or 64.  I just assumed
> Beowulf was 64 bit.

Debian jessie was available in i386 and amd64 as far as I recall.

> 
> My CPU appears to be able to do 64 so how do I change over?

Probably the easiest way is to do a fresh 64 bit install of
Beowulf. There might be a way to do a migration through dpkg
--add-architecture, but I'm not sure about that.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 04:38:46PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> I tried running "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config".  I selected "Mail sent by
> smarthost; no local mail" and then took all of the defaults.  I then tried
> to send a test e-mail using the command shown in the link you sent.  I get
> the response "Thunderbird 78.4.3" which is the version of Thunderbird that I
> am running, but no e-mail gets through to my account.

The linked to article doesn't seem to mention adding credentials for
the smarthost. You add them in:

/etc/exim4/passwd.client

See if that helps.

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Re: [DNG] Missing /run/user/$uid

2020-11-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 01:41:25PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
> I create a terminal window for a different user using a script like so:
> #! /bin/bash
> #
> # Extract auth of current user and run x-terminal-emulator in new user
> 
> printf -v altgksu 'export DISPLAY=:0; touch ~/.Xauthority; echo "%s"| xauth 
> nmerge -; dbus-launch --exit-with-x11 x-terminal-emulator;' "$(xauth nextract 
> - $DISPLAY)"
> su -l -c "$altgksu" $1
> 
> 
> When $1 is not root, I get errors from, e.g., geany, when it tries to create 
> a "uim" subdirectory:
> 
> stat("/run/user/111/uim", 0x7ffee78a9180) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> mkdir("/run/user/111/uim", 0700)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> write(2, "uim_helper_get_pathname() failed"..., 33) = 33
> 
> There is no folder 111 in /run/user.  Should I create it in the above script? 
>  But then, who created /run/user/0?

If this is your own personal machine, it probably wouldn't hurt. As
root:

mkdir /run/user/111
chmod 700 /run/user/111
chown user.group /run/user/111

As for your other question, /run/user/0 was probably created by a
program running as root for root. If there's a better way to do what
you want, or if what I propose isn't a good idea, someone else will
probably chime in.

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Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-11-01 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:57:52PM +0100, David Kuehling via Dng wrote:
> However, I think the proper fix, as pointed out by Ken, is
> to edit
> 
>   /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf
> 
> and comment out the "autospawn=no" line.  This is the solution that I'm
> currently using on all my Devuan Beowulf systems without encountering
> any issues.  I wonder why Devuan isn't distributing a patched version of
> pulseaudio that has this configured correctly by default?

Maybe because not all users of devuan want pulseaudio to be spawned by
default on their systems. Also spawning pulseaudio by default would
break the proposed fix for bug 496:



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Re: [DNG] X11: safe to remove?

2020-09-28 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 09:57:07PM -0400, tempforever via Dng wrote:
> I manage a few remote servers that are running Devuan.  Recently (last
> week) I noticed a couple updates to some x11 libraries.  I went ahead
> and updated.  But now, I'm wondering if it's okay to remove them
> altogether?  I do not use any graphical user interface on them.  I only
> connect via ssh, and issue text-only commands.

Looks to me like you'd be safe removing these packages. If you can
take a backup beforehand, I'd suggest doing that to be extra safe, but
I don't think you need these if the machine is a text console only
server.

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Re: [DNG] (Almost) no sound under Beowulf

2020-09-26 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:54:14PM -0700, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> The issue that I am having is with sound.  My daughter reported that it was
> not working.  I tried playing a video (in Firefox) from my login and also
> got no sound.

You've already gotten good suggestions in this thread. I'd concur with
the advice to get rid of pulseaudio, and use ALSA. If a particular
application requires pulseaudio, install the apulse package, and start
that application through apulse.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned so far is to make sure that each
user who is supposed to be able to play sound is a member of the audio
group. If they aren't in the audio group, add them to the audio group,
log them out, and log them back in. Note, I get sound in Beowulf in
firefox just fine with out pulseaudio installed.

> 3) The 'play' utility from the sox package gives an error whenever I try to
> play an mp3 file.  Using 'aplay' to play .wav files works fine.  What do I
> need to do to play mp3s from the commandline?

Do you have the libsox-fmt-mp3 package installed? Better yet, unless
you have some reason not to, just install the libsox-fmt-all
package. For playing music from the command line, I use mplayer. As
you've discovered, aplay works too, and play should work as well once
you install the necessary format support.

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Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 11:25:21PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Delete the contents all you want, but keep the lost and found directory.

If you delete lost+found by accident, you can recreate it with
mklost+found(8).

On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 12:26:21PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
> Reallocation, to my knowledge, should happen in the background. It's
> *possible* that the reallocation event and the FS corruption are unrelated.

My understanding is that the drive won't attempt to reallocate a
sector until that sector is written to. So, if the e2fsck -f did try
to write to that sector, the drive did reallocate it in the
background. I do stand to be corrected as always.

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Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 09:19:42PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Status command failed: scsi error medium or hardware error (serious)
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
> Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

You said this is a USB attached drive. That probably showed up
because the USB bridge doesn't support passing a given SMART
command(s) to the drive.

> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
> WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE

--- snip ---

>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   199   199   140Pre-fail  Always  
>  -   1

So we know that one sector was reallocated. Whether that happened when
e2fsck attempted to write to it, or earlier, we don't know.

> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   199   199   000Old_age   Always  
>  -   1
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000Old_age   Always  
>  -   0
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000Old_age   Offline 
>  -   0

Other than that one sector, the rest of the drive looks to be useable
so far.

> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
> LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Extended offlineCompleted without error   00%55 -

Again, that confirms to me the drive reallocated one bad sector, and
the rest of it seems to be OK so far.

> SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
>  SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
> 100  Not_testing
> 200  Not_testing
> 300  Not_testing
> 400  Not_testing
> 500  Not_testing
> Selective self-test flags (0x0):

You asked about this in an earlier message. The selective test portion
is used to report the status of the automatic testing the drive does
by itself if that's enabled, and your smartctl output shows that
automatic self tests are enabled on your drive. All the above says is
that the drive isn't running automatic self tests right now, so nothing to
worry about here.

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Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-04 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 03:03:55PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> This particular drive has no data that is not backed up elsewhere so I am
> comfortable experimenting with it a bit as a learning experience.  OTOH,
> trashing the remaining life it has for no reason wouldn't make sense.

You're not alone in that line of reasoning. I also use drives with
reallocated sectors. I however do make sure I take frequent backups of
those drives as I've stated in this thread before. I also verify the
new backups before deleting the old to make sure I haven't backed up
bad data. While some of the drives I've had died almost right away
after starting to reallocate sectors, others are still doing fine so
far years later.

If drives grew on trees I might not be taking this approach. Since
they don't grow on trees, and since I like to squeeze the last drop
out of things I own before recycling them (including cell phones and computers),
this is the approach I personally take. Others have disagreed with
this approach, and others will likely continue to disagree. I would
also add my voice to those who suggested doing a long SMART test.  Good luck.

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Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-08-29 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:36:26PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> On 2020-08-29 22:15, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 09:15:13PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> >>dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdx
> >
> >That will just erase the first megabyte of the drive, leaving
> >utilities like cfdisk to think the drive is new and unformatted. It
> >won't attempt to over write the bad sector(s) though. See the other
> >message I posted on how you can try to over write just the bad
> >sector(s) faster.
> >
> >Greg
> 
> Gregory . . .  the detailed instructions in this and your previous email are
> very helpful. Thanks for catching the error.  If needed, I will use this
> command as you suggested:

I just looked at what you posted earlier, and realized that it didn't
give a count= parameter. So, the command you gave earlier would
actually erase the entire drive one megabyte at a time instead of 512
kilobytes at a time, which I believe is the default block size dd
uses.

So, to clarify, 
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdx
would in fact erase the entire drive. Apologies for the confusion.

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Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-08-29 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 09:15:13PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sda

That will just erase the first megabyte of the drive, leaving
utilities like cfdisk to think the drive is new and unformatted. It
won't attempt to over write the bad sector(s) though. See the other
message I posted on how you can try to over write just the bad
sector(s) faster.

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Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-08-29 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 04:35:01PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> What are the chances of fsck repairing the bad sectors? I shamefully admit I
> have not thought about fsck for years.

This looks to be at the media level, so is most likely beyond
fsck. Since you said you can afford to lose this drive's contents, I
would suggest using dd to fill the drive with zeros:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx

where /dev/sdx is the designation for your drive. This might cause the
drive to reallocate the bad sector, or to mark the bad sector as good
again. Then, run a SMART test on the drive again. If it still fails,
then that drive probably can't be fixed. If the SMART test passes this
time, you can restore your backups on to it and keep using it. If you
do that, be very sure to sync that drive with your other backups
frequently, and don't rely on it exclusively.

If you don't want to wait for dd to write the entire drive, you can try
following this tutorial instead:



It seems to be old, but most if not all of it still seems relevant as
well. You will almost certainly want to run

e2fsck -f /dev/sdx1

at the end of this process before mounting the drive. Good luck.

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Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:01:09PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Nothing in logs. But I don't unserstand this DBus  syslog message that 
> comes up every second or so: 
> 
> Aug  7 09:29:26 engels brltty[720]: DBus error: send message: 
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not 
> provided by any .service file

Uninstall brltty if you don't use it, and that should get rid of the
message.

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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:04:25PM -0700, David Hoff Jr wrote:
> I have install Beowulf to a 32 bit Acer netbook using the text
> >installer with speech. I have speech in the text console but no speech
> >with Orca in the GUI desktop including the login screen. In the GUI
> >Desktop terminal I can bring up the Orca preferences with Orca -r -s
> >and find that in the second tab page there is nothing in the Voice
> >type, Speech System or Speech synthasizer boxes.
> >
> >
> >Any suggestions how to fix this. I do have other sounds, just no
> >speech from Orca.

You need to make the following configuration changes:

1. in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf there is a line which reads:

#xserver-share=false

Uncomment it to read:

xserver-share=false

This is documented in bugs 432 and 493. The necessary change is
already made to the lightdm package in proposed-updates, and will be
part of devuan 3.1 when that happens.

2. Add user lightdm to the audio group. This is documented in bug 494
   and will happen in devuan unstable eventually. Keep an ear on it
   here:



3. In /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf find the line which says:

# AudioOutputMethod "pulseaudio"

and change it to say:

 AudioOutputMethod "libao"

I will be filing a bug on this soon. Fixing this will require forking
and maintaining the speech-dispatcher package from debian with the
above change in speechd.conf. This isn't something I can take on right
now. If someone else would like to, that would be good.

The easiest way to bring these changes in to effect would be to reboot
your system. You should have speech at this point at the login screen,
and in the graphical console. If you don't, let us know, and we can
try to figure out why. You didn't specify which graphical desktop you
installed, so I'm assuming mate, which is the most accessible. If you
went with xfce, changes 1 and 2 above won't help you since slim not
lightdm is the login manager.

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Re: [DNG] net-install troubles

2020-07-01 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:20:19PM +, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
> I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system that 
> does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure.

I assume that by net-install, you mean an amd64 netinst of beowulf, right?
If not, then please clarify which netinst.

> When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and filesystems 
> that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set the mount point and 
> whether to use the partition I get the choice of "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, 
> and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the two that i need.

The amd64 netinst of beowulf does indeed have ext4 support. As far as
I know, before you can select how to use a partition, you need to
select the mount point. Have you done that first? Did you verify the
netinst image you downloaded isn't corrupted? Have you made sure the
USB stick was written correctly? One of the options the installer has
is to verify the checksums of the packages contained in the disk
image.

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Re: [DNG] no shutdown by pressing power button

2020-06-19 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:49:39PM +0200, ippaket via Dng wrote:
> after the upgrade from ascii to beowulf I can't shutdown my machine
> (64bit intel atom) by pressing the power button anymore.

You do have acpi-support, and acpi-support-base installed, right? You
might also need acpi-fakekey, but I'm not sure on that one.

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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on
> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste.
> Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5.

If the system ran cool before the upgrade, thermal paste shouldn't be
the problem. What happens if you run with a 5.x kernel from
beowulf-backports, for instance
linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned?

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[DNG] release status, was: Re: Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 10:04:37AM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 10:56:50AM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote:
> > * how long will Devuan 2 ASCII keep receiving security updates?
> 
> At least as long as Debian stretch has LTS. That is TBC in 2022 according to
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases#Production_Releases

Since this topic came up, I have a couple non critical machines
running jessie, and they still get updates. Is this a fluke, or is
jessie still being supported. If jessie is still being supported, then
how long is that planned to continue as of now? Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] beowulf-stable-announce 404

2020-06-01 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 11:45:44AM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Not enough hands on deck. The new website was release while I was sleeping
> so that page hasn't been created yet and I won't be able to get to it for
> several hours.  You are welcome to join the Devuan development team at any
> time.
> 
> golinux

Hmm, I thought we were going to have a second beta to make sure the
bugs reported during the first beta really are squashed.

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Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-05-28 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 07:35:16PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> There’s also a slightly newer version 4.19 available from backports 
> repository. While not as new as the most recent stable kernel, it might be 
> quicker and easier to test out than compiling as it’s available through apt.
> 
> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii-backports/linux-image-amd64_4.19+105+deb10u3~bpo9+1.html

There is a 5.4.x version
in buster/Beowulf backports, which is the latest LTS release. That
should be new enough, and easier than recompiling from source.

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Re: [DNG] DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-15 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:40:56AM +0200, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote:
> I don't have a fast enough i686 machine with Devuan.. it needs 1.5GB of ram
> at least. Maybe a version compiled on Ubuntu 16 works?

Setup a i686 chroot on amd64. Either that, or a virtual machine with a
i686 guest. No need for real i686 machines to compile software; they'd
probably spend days doing it anyway assuming they could in the first
place with big enough swap.

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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:14:14AM +, dal wrote:
> The option to uninstall does not resolve the main problem, which should be 
> fixed upstream.

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree here. If someone connects a
braille display which is supposed to work but doesn't, The log
messages would confirm that brltty is in fact running, but unable to
find the connected hardware for whatever reason.

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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 09:31:51PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I never thought about this before, but I think all packages for blind
> people should come with all standard packages. Doing so avoids the
> buried shovel situation where the blind person could install the
> packages for blind people if only he or she could read enough to
> install them.

Thank you for your sentiment Steve. Devuan however does have an
accessible install option. This means that whatever accessibility
speech or braille output options were chosen during the install will
also be activated in the installed system. So, if someone initially
installed with for example software speech but not with braille but
that person needs braille later, that individual should be able to use
the already activated software speech to install and configure brltty
for braille output. For those who don't need brltty and who find the
log messages a problem, uninstalling brltty should resolve the issue.

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Re: [DNG] more issues (RE: Beowulf Beta is here!)

2020-04-11 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 02:47:27PM +, dal wrote:
> When I manually arrange networking and try to use
> 
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf  main
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates  main
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main
> 
> then the set of available packages seems to be quite short, lacking things 
> like "less".
> 
> What is wrong?

Did you update the list of available packages with apt-get update?

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Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-06 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:46:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I've been completely unable to get on Zoom from firefox esr.
> Is it likely to work with Chrome or chromium?  One of my regular 
> meeetings has chosen Zoom, leaving me little choice.

Can you use a smart phone? Also, dialing in through a regular phone
number is a possibility with Zoom meetings.

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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-06 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 05:10:48PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after 
> reboot.

You might want to add to bug 419, so the devs are aware that more than
just one person had this issue:



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Re: [DNG] couldn't register with accessibility bus in Beowulf (workaround)

2020-03-25 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:51:18AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> There are also the most recent comments[1] in Debian bug #911362 which relates
> to Buster and lightdm.
> 
> Does installing libatk-adaptor help?

No, already installed.

> That bug also suggests another workaround of setting
  'xserver-share=false' in
> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf which also seems to work.
 
Yup, that fixed it for me, thank you! I now get orca talking once I've
logged in through lightdm. I'll be updating bug 99, since I also
figured out just now the solution to the other lightdm issue I
described there

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Re: [DNG] couldn't register with accessibility bus in Beowulf (workaround)

2020-03-25 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 08:18:12AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Stupid question: are you sure this is the showstopper? I have the same error 
> message, but everything works as normal.

I am very, very sure this is the show stopper. Are you using orca, or
looking at your monitor?

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 08:06:22AM +, Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote:
> To me, it seams to be caused by a combination of something `lightdm` does,
> and something `at-spi-bus-launcher` does not do.
> After a login with `lightdm`, the X11 root window has the `AT_SPI_BUS`
> property set (`xprop -root AT_SPI_BUS`), however, it seams the
> `at-spi-bus-launcher`/`at-spi2-registryd` instance which created that
> property does not exist anymore, causing applications to fail to connect to
> it. In addition to this, the presence of that property prevents a new
> instance of `at-spi-bus-launcher`
>  from starting.

Thanks, that explanation does make sense.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:06:57AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> I can conform that slim seems to do the right thing at the AT_SPI_BUS is set 
> and
> available.

That makes sense, since slim doesn't have ATSPI support as far as I
know, where as lightdm does through lightdm-gtk-greeter.

> That bug also suggests another workaround of setting 'xserver-share=false' in
> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf which also seems to work.

OK, I'll explore that along with the other solution you mentioned.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:51:18AM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> There are also the most recent comments[1] in Debian bug #911362 which relates
> to Buster and lightdm.
> 
> Does installing libatk-adaptor help?

I'll report back on this too when I have access to the machine I did
the install on in a few hours. Thanks everyone.

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[DNG] couldn't register with accessibility bus in Beowulf

2020-03-24 Thread Gregory Nowak
Hi all.

I'd like to start a dedicated thread on this issue. Most users are
simply annoyed by the message in the subject in their
$HOME/.xsession-errors file. However, since one of the services that
can't connect to the accessibility bus is gnome-orca (the gtk screen
reader software orca for short), this error isn't just annoying to me,
it's a show
stopper as far as using the GUI goes.

I've been exploring this, and have some questions for people with the
same issue, which will hopefully start us on the road to solving it:

1. Do you also see these errors if you stop the login manager, and run
startx by hand? I don't, and orca runs just fine.

2. What login manager are you using, lightdm, slim, something else?
I'm using lightdm. If this happens regardless of the login manager
used, then it would seem to be login manager agnostic.

3. Does anyone here happen to have an already installed debian system
you could test on to see if you have this error message? If no one
else can check it in debian, I'll put doing a debian install on my to
do list. If this also happens in debian, upstream is the source of the
problem. If these messages don't show up in a .xsession-errors on a
debian system, then this is Beowulf specific it would seem.

That's all from me for now.

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Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-18 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:24:27PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs?
> 
> I'm just planning to get a new PC, and I've generally preferred AMD to Intel, 
> so just wondering whether there's anything I need to look out for with pretty 
> much the latest hardware.

Yes:

1. Upgrade your kernel to 4.10 or later. If you install the kernel
   from Beowulf-backports, that should be good enough. 

2. There is the linux ryzen crash. Type that into your favorite
   search engine, and you'll get a whole bunch of info on it. Here's a
   good page from those results:



To work around this, you have a few options:

a. Use the zenstates.py script to disable c6 state.

b. See if your UEFI has a Power Supply Idle Control setting, and set
it to typical if it does.

c. After experimentation, I've found that setting the CPU governor to
"schedutil", and leaving c6 enabled works fine for me, and gives me
the best of all worlds; c6 enabled, and no crashes.

3. There was a problem with the VME implementation on ryzen, which has
   since been fixed:



That's all I can think of for now. You might want to check the
wikipedia ryzen page in case I forgot something.

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Re: [DNG] Update successful but video card issue

2020-01-30 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 02:28:09AM +, Tim Wallace via Dng wrote:
>  Yes it was, and thanks for that data point.  I'm more likely to try it on 
> beowulf, but sounds like there are no major low-level subsystem 
> incompatibilities.
> --Tim

The 5.4.14 kernel compiles and runs just fine on Beowulf.

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Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> had the same issue with mate.
> iirc, consolekit is to blame. remove all related consolekit packages
> first, and they'll be replaced by elogind ones. (if they don't, install
> them by hand).
> then dist-upgrade normally.

Thanks Mark and Dimitris. Purging consolekit and related packages
brought in some other policykit/elogind packages, and all is well now. It's
very possible that a new version of policykit had something to do with
forcing consolekit out, though wanting to remove all of mate didn't
make that obvious.

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Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 04:11:11PM -0500, te...@tempforever.dynu.com wrote:
> One (minor) irritation that I noticed both on this and my recent VM upgrade,
> is root user no longer has /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin, /sbin in PATH

Do you mean upon login, or su? If su, then you need to invoke su as

su -

instead of simply as su.

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[DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-02 Thread Gregory Nowak
Hi All,
I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf
system, and I get this:

# apt-get dist-upgrade

Reading package lists... 0%

Reading package lists... 100%

Reading package lists... Done


Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 0%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree... 50%

Building dependency tree   


Reading state information... 0%

Reading state information... 0%

Reading state information... Done


Calculating upgrade... 0%

Calculating upgrade... 10%

Calculating upgrade... Done

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  albatross-gtk-theme blackbird-gtk-theme bluebird-gtk-theme eom eom-common
  ffmpegthumbnailer fonts-cantarell gksu greybird-gtk-theme
  gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-pixbuf libatkmm-1.6-1v5
  libayatana-appindicator3-1 libayatana-ido3-0.4-0 libayatana-indicator3-7
  libcairo-perl libcairomm-1.0-1v5 libdbusmenu-glib4 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4
  libept1.5.0 libffmpegthumbnailer4v5 libgksu2-0 libglib-perl
  libglibmm-2.4-1v5 libgnome-keyring-common libgnome-keyring0 libgtk2-perl
  libgtkmm-3.0-1v5 libgtop-2.0-10 libgucharmap-2-90-7 libmate-menu2
  libmate-slab0 libmate-window-settings1 libmatedict6 libmatekbd-common
  libmatekbd4 libmatemixer-common libmatemixer0 libmateweather-common
  libmateweather1 libpango-perl libpangomm-1.4-1v5 libpulse-mainloop-glib0
  librda-common librda0 libupower-glib3 mate-applets-common mate-backgrounds
  mate-control-center-common mate-icon-theme mate-icon-theme-faenza mate-media
  mate-media-common mate-menus mate-panel-common mate-polkit-common
  mate-power-manager-common mate-screensaver mate-screensaver-common
  mate-settings-daemon-common mate-system-monitor mate-system-monitor-common
  mate-themes mate-utils mate-utils-common menu menu-xdg murrine-themes
  python-gi python-mate-menu
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  brltty libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 mate-applets mate-control-center
  mate-core mate-desktop-environment mate-desktop-environment-core
  mate-desktop-environment-extra mate-desktop-environment-extras mate-panel
  mate-polkit mate-power-manager mate-settings-daemon policykit-1 synaptic
The following packages will be upgraded:
  cinnabar-icon-theme clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme desktop-base
  gtk3-nooverlayscrollbar libfreeimage-dev libfreeimage3 libpcsclite1
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0
9 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 15 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,763 kB of archives.
After this operation, 20.0 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

I did apt-get install on brltty and the mate packages to mark them as
manually installed, but apt-get update dist-upgrade again still
insists on removing them. Is this a known issue? If yes, then what is
the work around. I don't want to uninstall a well running desktop just
so I can install it again. Thanks. As far as install report for this
system, it was upgraded to Beowulf from a minimal fresh Ascii install
back in June with no problems.

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Re: [DNG] ..what version firefox-esr do we get on upgrading to Beowulf?, was: We need upgrade reports

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 03:52:28AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..what version firefox-esr do we get on upgrading to Beowulf?

As of now, 68.3.0.

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[DNG] interfaces.d question

2019-12-23 Thread Gregory Nowak
Hi All,
assume the following:

--- start /etc/network/interfaces.d/staticlan ---
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
# no gateway

--- end /etc/network/interfaces.d/staticlan ---

--- start /etc/network/interfaces/dynamiclan ---
iface eth0 inet dhcp

--- end /etc/network/interfaces.d/dynamiclan ---

If I do:

ifup staticlan
or:
ifup dynamiclan

I get:

"staticlan: unknown interface"

Same for dynamiclan

That makes sense, since there are no such physical interfaces in the
system. However, for ppp links the following works:

iface dsllink inet ppp
provider dsl-provider
...

This works, even though there is no such physical interface as
dsllink. This leads me to believe that what I want to do is
possible. However, I've read interfaces(5), and don't see there
anything that suggests how to do what I want to do.

So, Is it possible for me to define interfaces based on
/etc/network/interfaces.d/* instead of physical interfaces,
even though those interfaces don't
actually exist? If yes, then can someone either point me to an
explanation of how to do that, or can someone please explain how to do
that? Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-11 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:32:46PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> I would imagine there's a command you can send to the card which tells it to 
> bulk-erase itself. Function in one of the disk utils ?

Yup, hdparm. It works for SSD, I don't know if it would work for SD
cards too.

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Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:58:06AM -0800, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> There are actually a couple of ways around the SD wear issue, even though 
> people seem to dearly LOVE SSDs with the exact same issue;

I haven't seen anyone mention even once in this entire thread so far
that the rpi supports trimming on SD cards. I have a rpi2b, and rpi3b
the first for three years now, and the second for two. Both are up
24/7 running off SD cards, and both have a weekly cron job that runs
fstrim -a. They're still doing fine on the original SD cards.

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Re: [DNG] Installation difficulties

2019-10-20 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 07:42:52PM +0700, Robert Parker via Dng wrote:
> Do questions about problems installing devuan get answered on this list?

They do, if someone has the answers.

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Re: [DNG] Solved Re: Upgrade lockedup-How To fix

2019-08-07 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 11:23:57PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> Fixed and now I'm back to chasing down HW/memory fault.
> A side benefit is that now I have a consistent way of crashing the
> system and might finally get to a working solution for this pair of
> identical AMD B350 systems.

Sounds like you're being bit by the linux on ryzen crash:



That thread explains what to disable in your UEFI if it's new
enough. Since I have nobody to read my UEFI screens to me (where's my
accessible speech enabled UEFI that was supposed to be so great),
disabling c6 package state seems to fix the random crashes. The only
thing I'm still trying to track down is where using the speakup screen
reader's review commands can reliably crash the machine with no errors
from the kernel in certain situations.

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Re: [DNG] Booting devuan on a rasberry pi

2019-07-28 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 03:57:47PM -0500, hal wrote:
> Do you use a serial port on your PI 3?  I purchased one last week
> on Ebay but have no serial output on the UART0_TXD + UART0_RXD pins.
> 
> Some searching says to add "core_freq=250" or "enable_uart=1" but
> so far still nothing. Any suggestions are appreciated.
> 
> Thank you

See if this helps you:


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Re: [DNG] Weird problem with every kernel update

2019-06-26 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 01:10:20AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 25/6/19 10:23 am, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 06:50:48AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Hardware NUC6i7KYK.
> >> 
> >> Every time I do a kernel upgrade (Devuan ASCII), rebooting loses
> >> USB devices shortly after grub kicks in.
> > 
> > Do you have the necessary module entries for your USB
> > controller/hub in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
> 
> Yes, I'm sure I actually have some extra modules in there just in case
> that won't hurt to be there and the rescue boot picks up the chroot
> environment copy of the modules file okay.

Even though the kernel upgrade scripts generate a new initramfs, have
you tried generating them by hand with update-initramfs -u -k all
after the upgrade process? What about creating them from scratch with
the -c flag instead of -u? I don't see why either of those would make
a difference, but it wouldn't hurt to check if they do for some
reason. That's all I can think of for now.

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Re: [DNG] Weird problem with every kernel update

2019-06-24 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 06:50:48AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Hardware NUC6i7KYK.
> 
> Every time I do a kernel upgrade (Devuan ASCII), rebooting loses USB
> devices shortly after grub kicks in.

Do you have the necessary module entries for your USB controller/hub
in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?

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Re: [DNG] upgrade to ascii dkim stopped working

2019-02-28 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 05:55:46PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> opendkim (2.11.0~alpha-8) unstable; urgency=medium On systems using
> systemd, this version replaces /etc/default/opendkim with the files
> /etc/systemd/system/opendkim.service.d/overrride.conf and
> /etc/tmpfiles.d/opendkim.conf carrying over non-default settings. --

Which means that on systems not using systemd /etc/default/opendkim is
still being honored. In fact, a fragment of /etc/init.d/opendkim
reads:

# Include opendkim defaults if available
if [ -f /etc/default/opendkim ] ; then
. /etc/default/opendkim
fi

> So may be i am wrong but i have not found any means
> to get opendkim 2.11 working. Downgrading to 2.9 worked immediately and
> because it is a production system i for now do not have more time to
> investigate it any further.

You did put the error message you're getting into your favorite
search engine before giving up, yes?

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Re: [DNG] upgrade to ascii dkim stopped working

2019-02-27 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:30:29PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> Apparently opendkim 2.11 has been polluted/infected by systemd. Lots of
> systemd bugreports, notes about being a native systemd daemon but simply
> not working from postfix. I downgraded opendkim from 2.11 to 2.9 and
> everythings is working again.

Interesting:

$ apt-cache policy opendkim
opendkim:
  Installed: 2.11.0~alpha-10+deb9u1
  Candidate: 2.11.0~alpha-10+deb9u1
  Version table:
 *** 2.11.0~alpha-10+deb9u1 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

$ apt-cache policy postfix
postfix:
  Installed: 3.1.9-0+deb9u2
  Candidate: 3.1.9-0+deb9u2
  Version table:
 *** 3.1.9-0+deb9u2 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Yes, I do have opendkim working from postfix.
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Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?

2019-02-25 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:16:08AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output,
> > > therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop.
> > 
> > Uhhhm, no, it doesn't. Gnome works with xfce and mate, though mate
> > provides a more accessible experience for orca users than xfce does.
> 
> I'll assume that you meant to say that Orca works with xfce and
mate,

Good catch. Yes, I did indeed mean to say orca, not gnome.

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Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?

2019-02-24 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, therefore 
> it needs to run the Gnome desktop.

Uhhhm, no, it doesn't. Gnome works with xfce and mate, though mate
provides a more accessible experience for orca users than xfce does.

>  I'd very much prefer to do this without 
> systemd if I can.

No problem, just choose one of the two desktops mentioned above during
the devuan install.

> 
> Therefore I'm wondering what the current status of doing this on Devuan 
> (preferably Ascii) is.

I'm not yet running an Ascii box with a GUI. However, if the Ascii
install is anything like Jessie, which I seem to recall it is, then
you just need to press "s" and  when the boot menu comes
up. This will start a text install with speech. The beauty of doing it
this way is that it will setup everything for use with orca if you
choose a desktop during the install. You can do the install without
speech like you would do for yourself, and install gnome-orca after,
but there are some specific steps that need to be done for orca to
come up after the install. I believe the steps are described on the
debian wiki accessibility page.

> 
> https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii and 
> https://www.heise.de/select/ix/2018/8/1533453649894916 both tell me that I 
> can't run Gnome at all, so I'm hoping that these are out of date.

Correct, gnome is tangled with systemd, so you can't run gnome without
systemd. If the person you're installing this for really needs gnome
specifically, then I'd suggest you install debian for that individual.

> 
> Doing a fresh installation of Ascii doesn't offer me Gnome as a desktop 
> envoironment choice.

Correct as mentioned above.

> 
> However, installing without a graphical environment does then allow me to 
> install "gnome" and "gnome-orca" as packages, which suggests to me that it is 
> now supported.

Yes, with xfce or mate as mentioned above.

> 
> Rebooting just leaves me with the standard text terminal login prompt, though.

Right, as expected without a desktop environment installed.

> 
> So, in summary:
> 
> a) can I use the Gnome desktop on Devuan Ascii?

No.

> 
> b) if yes, how do I get the machine to present a graphical login prompt on 
> startup?
> 
> If anyone has any additional comments specifically related to using the Orca 
> screenreader for speech (not Braille) output, by all means email me offlist.
> 

Slim isn't accessible, so install lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter as
the login manager. some people have also had issues with orca and
speech-dispatcher not playing nice, while others didn't have these
issues. You'll know if you have them if orca and speech-dispatcher are
running, but there is no speech after login. I think I described how
to resolve this somewhere on this list. If you can't find that post,
and seem to have the mentioned issue, I'll either dig up the link to
it myself, or will provide a brief recap of what needs to be done.

Also note that if you use the accessible install, the installed system
will have both speakup for the text console installed, as well as orca
for the GUI. This also includes pulseaudio, which doesn't play nice
with speakup/espeakup. This is because espeakup expects to access the
audio hardware through alsa, while by default, speech-dispatcher
expects to access the hardware through pulseaudio. There are a few
work arounds, but the simplest is to purge pulseaudio, or at least
stop it from running at all, and configuring speech-dispatcher to use
libao through spd-conf(1). You can also do this by configuring things
in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf, and killing
speech-dispatcher. If you can, it's best to reboot whatever
configuration method you used, since there are sometimes problems with
speech-dispatcher coming up and using the new configuration. I believe
debian wiki's accessibility page mentions this too, but I could be
wrong on that.

Also, I see no need to take this off list. As I understand it,
accessibility is one of the pillars of devuan. Feel free to ask if you
can't hunt down answers to other questions on your own, and I'll do my
best to help.

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Re: [DNG] upgrade to ascii dkim stopped working

2019-02-24 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:55:08PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> After upgrading a production server to ascii from jessie, opendkim
> stopped working. When i start opendkim manually i get the error
> "Starting OpenDKIM: install: cannot create directory ‘’: No such file or
> directory". I kept the original configfiles. There is a update remark
> from debian about when systemd is installed but of course i do not have
> systemd installed. Someone recognizing this problem and may be knows a fix?

All I can tell you is that I do have opendkim working on Ascii. I did
the upgrade to Ascii about a year ago, and don't recall any major
issues with opendkim. Might dpkg-reconfigure on the opendkim package
help? I wish I had a more specific answer for you.

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Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

2018-12-02 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:41:48AM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> The purpose of this email is to ask how to radically minimized write
> cycles to the SD CARD when I run Devuan for Raspberry Pi 3. I found a
> how-to which uses /tmp fs for frequently modified system files, but
> the user uses systemd and I do not want to have that.
> 

I have an rpi2 which I've been running for almost three years now, and
which stays up 24/7. I run fstrim once a week from a cron job, and the
sd card is still doing fine as far as I can tell. While this doesn't
minimize write cycles, it does reduce wear on the card by distributing
writes to different sectors. The other suggestions in this thread are
also good ones.

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[DNG] /usr merged or not in live images, was: Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-18 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 02:29:43PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> So . . . if the choice to avoid the merge is only available with
> debian-installer what does that mean for the live isos?  Will they be
> configured with or without the merge as default?  That's a decision that
> needs to be discussed too.

Since we're already bucking debian's trends, and can buck this one
easily, why not have the live images with an unmerged /usr? Not
technically oriented reasoning on my part, but there you have it.

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Re: [DNG] English grammar.

2018-11-18 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:11:50AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.

You should have split the thread too, assuming your MUA supports
that. Doing so starting with this post. It would be appreciated if we
can please keep the replies in a thread properly split from the usr
merge thread, so that those of us who don't want to participate in
this one don't have to sort out one thread from another. Thank you.

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Re: [DNG] Online DNS & Bind Refeences.

2018-11-06 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 09:56:21PM +1100, terryc wrote:
> 1. What do people recommend as online sources for Bind configuration
> these days.

The bind9 administrator reference manual, which you can find at
isc.org, or as part of the bind9-doc package.

> 
> 2. what programs do you recommend for checking the configuration files.
> 

For configuration files, named-checkconf(8), for zones named-checkzone(8).

> The problem I'm hitting is the format of woa.com.au/192.168.0.0 zone
> files and despite carefully deriving ones from examples in the Debian
> wiki I'm getting conflicting error listing. Frustrating.

If these are in-addr.arpa. PTR records, they could be conflicting with
the RFC 1918 zones bind9 includes by default.

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Re: [DNG] Devuan on RaspberryPi W Zero segfaults

2018-10-26 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:27:14PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Some additional information:
> - booting with devuan rpi1 image gives no serial console, but rpi boots (to 
> an unknown state)
> - adding "enable_uart=1" in config.txt and booting does not work, rpi 
> activity led goes dark after ~ 1 sec.
> - copying kernel+firmware+bootcode+kernelmoduels from raspbian to devuan and 
> adding "enable_uart=1" works, kernel log is spit to uart. Userspace does not 
> work, I cannot get a login console.
> 
> Oh, I have no matching hdmi cable, so I don't know what happens on tty1.
> 
> Any ideas?

I only have a rpi2 and rpi3 here. Having said that, when the rpi3 came
out, raspbian made changes so that they could provide the same sd
image for all rpi models. That means that the serial console in
raspbian will always be on /dev/serial0, no matter which model of the
rpi is being used. What complicates things more is that if the serial
port is missing, systemd will happily ignore it, but agetty will keep
exiting, causing sysvinit to keep respawning it over, and over again.

Devuan bug reports:
https://bugs.devuan.org/db/87/87.html
https://bugs.devuan.org/db/88/88.html
https://bugs.devuan.org/db/89/89.html

I see that bug 89 was closed, even though 87 and 88 which are
prerequisites for bug 89 weren't closed. I've been meaning to look into
the status of this and other bugs, but lack of another sd card, and
time has so far prevented me from doing so. I've since gotten a second
sd card, but time is still very much lacking here for now.

The bottom line for you is that since the rpi0 doesn't have a built in
bluetooth adapter, the serial port in devuan will be on
/dev/ttyAMA0. That means you need to specify that as the serial port
in cmdline.txt, and spin up agetty on that port in /etc/inittab.

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