Re: [DNG] netman packages

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:02:07AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Except for [...] it all went smoothly until: > > Now signing changes and any dsc files... > signfile netman_0.1.1~468c97d-jessie2.dsc Aitor Cuadrado Zubizarreta > > gpg: skipped "Aitor Cuadrado Zubizarreta

Re: [DNG] dbus, Was Re: Systemd-free network-manager package

ted in; but as far as documentation goes, I see only a two and a half year old page mentioning it as a possible but untested solution. (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DBusRemote/) There's also a third-party program to implement this (http://gabriel.sf.net/howto.html). -A caveat is that it's appare

Re: [DNG] Systemd-free network-manager package

y configured. The developer intends to call wpa_* directly at some point; I hope that he takes the opportunity to make it use wpa_supplicant's abilities. > > I don't know where wicd is in this plot. It's a two-part python/dbus interface that r

Re: [DNG] Systemd-free distros Was Re: Distrowatch

course, Quirky doesn't have a real 'host' distro; it is (was?) built from T2, which is a source-based distro not many people have heard of. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Office pack

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 01:47:37PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:50:27 + (UTC) > Mitt Green wrote: > > I > > can't be sure about word processor, speaking of numerous AbiWord > > issues. > > Honestly, if you can run MSWord under Wine, you'll have a

Re: [DNG] busybox

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 05:30:15PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > How do you guys like this:? > http://git.busybox.net/busybox/commit/?id=accd9eeb719916da974584b33b1aeced5f3bb346 :), though I hadn't heard about it despite being on the Busybox list. A lot of the people over there are *at least* as

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: was s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

shell functions calling several external helpers in sysv-rc is instead handled in a fairly small multi-call binary. And it works close enough to sysv-rc overall that it's fairly easy to make the move...only a lot of the things that were less obvious now have simple tools. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [announce] s6-rc, a s6-based service manager for Unix systems

internet connection in ~20 seconds (the first 12 or so being BIOS+GRUB), and I'm annoyed if I can't start mutt immediately without any problems. For my parents, if the computer can't connect in the first two minutes, they might never find out that it actually does connect. And on a router, a minu

Re: [DNG] libpam-xdg-support / libpam-systemd

contributors soon; i just would not like > to imply an endorsement while you actually think it sucks. ;-) Thanks. ;-) One detail I'm not sure if you implemented: I suggested that default be to create .../$UID if needed, but you can pass "-n" to create a new session. Thanks, Isaac Dun

Re: [DNG] xf86-input-evdev

hat has no Debian packaging yet. There are also two other options: - comment out that function and disable device hotplug in Xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d - replace the function with one that does all the work itself. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 09:38:12AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Sorry, this thread became private my my mis-clicking on Icedove. > > Le 30/08/2015 22:37, Isaac Dunham a écrit : > >On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:58:59PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > >>Le 28/08/2015 04:2

Re: [DNG] docker/virtualization (was: The show goes on...)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 09:11:01PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: And all along I thought a dock had to do with a place to put program icons on a desktop and that docker was a tool to handle it. I've ignored everything about virtual machines except for Virtual Box and QEMU. Evidently, I now

Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 03:01:26PM +0100, Dave Turner wrote: On 29/08/15 01:37, Isaac Dunham wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:45:51AM +0100, Dave Turner wrote: I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac. It all works with just a bit of weirdness. I use apt-get update apt

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: ???su??? command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

the last couple weeks). HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

these because I'm *guessing* that it's one of the following: -you don't have TERM pointing to an installed correct termcap/terminfo database -your localization is screwy -you have the wrong fonts (not likely unless it's a plain xlib terminal) HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:29:31AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 25/08/2015 03:40, Isaac Dunham a ??crit : For your perusal, here's an overview of how they work together; it's a 100+ line summary. If anyone wants more details, here are some sources: Manual pages: interfaces(5

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

trivially in C with readdir(); ask if you'd like an example. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

function that calls wpa_cli. I have no idea whether the \ escapes hold up to all that, but as long as you have them adequately escaped, they do not need a different format for quoting. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

[DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

of how it works, but the interfaces, wpa_cli, and wpa_action manpages are rather helpful for understanding the glue. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Didier! HTH, Isaac Dunham wpa_supplicant and ifup integration ifup is a one-shot command for bringing up interfaces, oriented towards

Re: [DNG] [hai...@histomat.net: Re: Alpha2 without desktop environment]

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: snip When I startx, I'm still in vesa (?) mode. The Xorg log file says it is using configuration directory /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. The only error is: (EE) NOUVEAU(0): [COPY] failed to allocate class don't know

Re: [DNG] Wireless configuration tools (was: Re: Systemd Shims)

the init scripts and adding the relevant stuff to your rc script. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Wireless configuration tools (was: Re: Systemd Shims)

://github.com/idunham/wpanet/blob/master/tools/wpa_config HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Alpha2 without desktop environment

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:54:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:25:06 -0700 Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 07:01:11AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: The aim is to boot to a console prompt, log in as root, install xorg and fluxbox

Re: [DNG] [hai...@histomat.net: Re: Alpha2 without desktop environment]

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 07:43:04AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I reiinstalled (avoiding past missteps), to a console, and from it installed xorg and fluxbox. I then ran xstart from console and all went well. With one exception. I'm in what looks like VGA mode with large crude characters. It

Re: [DNG] Alpha2 without desktop environment

reason root log in not working. I suppose that when I provided a password I mistyped. At the grub menu, edit the kernel commandline to change root=... ro ... to root=... rw ... init=/bin/bash Then run passwd, sync a couple times, and reboot. HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 01:43:36AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:10:13 -0700 Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote: Try Alpine Linux (alpinelinux.org). Install docs are here: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation [snip] -init is Busybox init, with OpenRC

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 09:44:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:14:10 -0700 Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who are rather frustrated with Windows 10. The friends in question ask me about

Re: [DNG] Init scripts in packages

On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 09:43:47AM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: On 08/08/2015 03:43, Isaac Dunham wrote: Which, fortunately, is pretty easy to do: I wrote an environment sanitizer yesterday, because I was curious how easily solved that is. Usage is cautenv [-c DIR] [-u] [-x] COMMAND

Re: [DNG] Init scripts in packages

On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 05:14:28PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: On 06/08/2015 16:31, Isaac Dunham wrote: If differences in environment can cause problems, it's a problem with design. A program that changes what it does just due to differences between the init environment and a login

Re: [DNG] Init scripts in packages

can be (unless your service manager is a hundred-megabyte hog). Think it's hung? strace/ltrace the pid. Wondering what files it has open? Use lsof or look in /proc/$PID/fd/. ... Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] Keeping mailing list alive - A question about error on re-compiling package

in debian/rules. Also, google suggests that this has something to do with cdbs; make sure that's installed. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 30/07/2015 01:09, Isaac Dunham a écrit : I'm not sure where in the discussion this fits, but I thought I'd mention it here: Permitting all mount invocations via sudo does have a potential security hole if your mount

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

as a starting point). Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] nlmon

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 05:17:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 01:21:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com writes: Or you can do it with mount, sudo, sh, and nlmon (http://git.r-36.net/nlmon

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

the necessary steps to block this. If you use a wrapper script, you can make it automatically determine the type and run ntfs-3g if appropriate, then allow sudo to run that. If you use a C wrapper, you can do that and make it suid. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

currently need to make one small change in nlmon.c before compiling it: change write(0, to write(1,. This example can be run from a user session; if one prefers, the automounter could be replaced with a popup or anything else. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

, I don't think it has a -pidfile option, though I could add that without too much work...adding -quiet was trivial.) HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] GTK (was Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?)

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:14:21AM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: On 7/23/2015 10:41 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote: I'm inclined to agree with you on C++, but I'd like to refer you to Roger Leigh's comments on the subject about seven and a half months ago; I'm only appending the first couple

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:12:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:39:05 +0200 Michael Bütow mbu...@houtbay.com wrote: I am sure if someone wants to expend the energy to get rid of D-Bus related software in Devuan, they can set up their own spin of it. For those of you

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:49:11PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 23/07/2015 22:19, Isaac Dunham a écrit : On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:12:36PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: For those of you who don't want dbus, my experience tells me that getting rid of it would involve something like

Re: [DNG] Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?

is the OP's attempt to ask Thorsten if he intends to duplicate the repositories for Devuan. It is my understanding, based on my previous examination of the repositories, that nothing in there would have to change for Devuan. Does that clarify anything? HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [DNG] GTK (was Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?)

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:30:04PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: On Thursday, July 23, 2015 08:22:55 PM Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Teodoro Santoni wrote: ... but, yeah, it's outside the scope of Devuan. D-Bus just sucks and is documented on a random basis,

Re: [DNG] Thorsten Glaser? was: Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:23:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:18:22 +0200 miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr wrote: What fundamentalists? The Gentoo folks? Thorsten mirabilos Glaser with his MirDebian WTF project, a fundamentalist? Me, a fundamentalist? What's the

Re: [DNG] Multi-seat on Devuan, do we actually need that useless curiosity?

amount of work. But I don't have any hardware suitable for testing, and don't feel that it really justifies getting said hardware. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] systemd in the era of hotplugable devices

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:59:56PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: On 22/07/2015 10:00, Oz Tiram wrote: One argument I hear often about systemd is that it more adapted to current hardware needs, [e.g. here][1] Computers changed so much that they often doesn’t even look like computers.

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

. As a bonus for those who prefer RSI, it comes with a 'jmacs' mode that imitates emacs (which, of course, I have not tested). There's also jpico, which is a clone of the 'pico' editor that nano is a clone of. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:44:21AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: - Original Message - From: Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 09:04:03PM +0200, Micky Del Favero wrote: I vote to put vi as default editor in devuan because vi is the default editor in every unix

Re: [DNG] systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer

script framework) rather than init. In terms of how you run the scripts, it's fairly interchangeable; the most significant difference from sysv-rc is how you write the scripts, but even that is a matter of writing shell functions rather than case statements. Thanks, Isaac Dunham

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

, but I realize that nano is one of a very limited number of editors that provide adeqaute help on-screen; mcedit is the other one that I know of. exim - postfix I'd probably only be using ssmtp, nullmailer, or such myself. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer

if they are not going to be combined and are modular. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] systemd in wheezy, was: Re: bummer

. (So as to recover safely, when fork() finally fails it will sleep briefly and exit.) It's probably not representative of even a trivial server, but on my 1GB N270 netbook running Alpine Linux, with ~100 programs running (ls -d /proc/[0-9]*|wc -l = 103), it reports 7880 forks. Thanks, Isaac Dunham

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12

to understand that. You'll probably need to understand shell scripting, but you may know it already. Just ask if you want anything more. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] My experience with Devuan Alpha2

. But if you mean to make this widespread, make it easy to turn off. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [Dng] vdev status update: device properties and udev compatibility

. Are you, or anybody in this list, able to submit a patch to busybox blkid? What information fields from -p are needed? Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Packages aren't the only path to alternate inits

adopting each of the packages. You won't be maintaining scripts for all 1000+ packages: epoch users probaly won't want heartbeat, or the three UPS packages. If you do maintain scripts for separately maintained daemons, mark your packages as enhancing them. HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [DNG] [Dng] epoch feature request

here has a background in this off the top of my head. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [Dng] epoch feature request

in the package, but will not be replaced if modified unless you specify to replace them. But watching for file creation seems like a case of refusing to work with the package manager. For option 3: https://wiki.debian.org/DpkgTriggers HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] epoch feature request

-- files that, by mishap or otherwise, didn't get deleted upon package deletion. IIRC, a config file (anything under /etc) that has been modified will not be removed unless its package is purged or the sysadmin deletes it manually. HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] Readiness notification

for this. You could use the script to start the network tools directly, or write some indicator that lets the process manager start spawning network programs. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [Dng] Readiness notification

]); } Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

(and required) non-free fonts. Artifex Software (the company that wrote and maintained both) has since merged it with GhostScript (GhostPDL), though I'm not sure what the license deal is. There were a few forks of GhostScript, though AFAICT Ghost Trap is the only active one. HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

, if it isn't a downloader or installer. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

be information presented before the user selects repos to enable. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

market for a simple desktop based on IceWM. True. However, we're often able to set it up ourselves. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] I want to mount a Packages page, buildd and Wanna-build system

packages? Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:19:51PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 07:16:55PM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

this as a result of making the motif frontend build/work again. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Which source version fo systemd are you stripping code from?

is in examples/. Unfortunately, there's no example of how to do wireless via WPA. I also see that it's meant to work with the hotplug scripts, and that it amounts to a different way to configure ifup. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [Dng] why someone might want systemd on devuan

(if it's even possible to use systemd in a container). HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Which package generates /lib/systemd and /etc/systemd files?

systemd on their system, we don't make it harder than necessary. This does not require that *we* should test it, just let things remain (without any support from us). I'd think that this is OK, apart from the question of whether all packages can be rebuilt on a Devuan system. Thanks, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] Which package generates /lib/systemd and /etc/systemd files?

a trigger for dpkg which will run rm -rf /etc/systemd... HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Linux boot documentation

. On a systemd-based system, udev is mandatory; it is not a part of pid 1, though it is built from the systemd source. If you can figure out what module is causing the crash, you can blacklist it. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [Dng] Linux boot documentation

to hotplug events (typically via udev, eudev, vdev, mdev) On the whole, it's a fairly good overview. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

. A possible use for /sbin on a non-containerized system is to bind-mount an empty directory over /sbin/ in a private mount namespace for all non-administrative users. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org

Re: [Dng] Debian Dev: anti-systemd people hate women; thus respectable people should not support anti-systemd stance.

that some code has. (Insult the *code* if needed; not the coder, and even more certainly not the users.) I try to delete mails and threads that end up like this. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

/scripts/init-bottom/devmanager - /etc/alternatives/rd-dev-manager/devmanager-bottom An alternative is just have udev/vdev/mdev all Provide:/Conflict: device-manager, and initramfs-tools can depend on that; but this is clumsy. Thanks, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] Story: Debian Jessie laptop without systemd

to use xdialog or whiptail). The configuration part was not the point of wpanet; it was about starting wpa_supplicant and a dhcp client without relying on sleep, but there is an interface that I hope is fairly clear. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [Dng] Fwd: [dng] vdev status update

font or resolution, then you need a script for console settings (and a framebuffer driver and fbcon). HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status update

The directory where that is would probably be helpful for integration with initramfs-tools; it's what I worked out for making mdev replace udev. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status update

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 05:22:55PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: report every kind of device, since it listens to the kernel's driver core (i.e. libudev learns about network interfaces, buses, power supplies, etc.--stuff for which there are no device files Currently, it doesn't

Re: [Dng] What about pulseaudio, avahi, ... ?

. In order for the user to get sound, they will need to have pulseaudio or another network sound daemon running, and NAS isn't really active anymore. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [Dng] What about pulseaudio, avahi, ... ?

there wasn't a collision). On the other hand, I've also had avahi cause a kernel panic, apparently triggered by a printer. That was with Ubuntu Lucid, right around release (it could have been before release, since I tested that one). Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng

Re: [Dng] Freedom Logo

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:38:59PM +0200, Svarog wrote: Hi all, I uploaded a different version: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/File:Devuan_Freedom_blue1.png Kind Regards, kvasny That looks nice! (yes, that's including the color) Thanks, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] Why daemontools is so cool

stays started. If you don't need that, you don't need them. Regards piotr Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

the right ones.) Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

install great_sounding_app get warned. printf '\n\nPackage: libsystemd*\nPin: origin *\nPin-Priority: -1\n' \ /etc/apt/preferences printf '\n\nPackage: systemd\nPin: origin *\nPin-Priority: -1\n' \ /etc/apt/preferences You're welcome. Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] The quote of the year

environment I use is certainly not going to go for the rewrite it for fun, and what can we break today? approach. After all, I use CDE. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

periodically (when the current version is no longer supported). The amount of churn between versions and the number of versions means that it would be very difficult to backport patches. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [Dng] [OT] Debian problems with Jesse - was simple backgrounds

won't say that Python/$scripting_language should not be used, period. But there are a lot of the features that come at costs that sometimes seem to be ignored. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI

to the posterior rather than a male donkey (and kick ass refers to the aforesaid pportion of the anatomy). Not quite a swear word, but something to be avoided. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds

.) Or, that might be the way Debian sets up networking as a dependency of remote-fs which is a dependency of the late-boot programs in /usr. I used to encounter similar problems when I had no wireless; fortunately, sysvinit proceeds after a timeout. Thanks, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

--configure barf or is this the root window?). I like the root weave too. If you want it back, use Xorg -retro or xsetroot -def. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] wicd wpasupplicant (WAS: Re: three important UI features

or WEP networks; I haven't been able to find out if iw can do WPA. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Important changes in Linux 3.20 (4.0?)

it have to depend on systemd? Erm...I'm reading that kdbus was *not* merged. FWIW, kdbus was specifically mentioned when Linus blacklisted Kay Sievers. V3 seems to have gotten a lot of This needs a *lot* more documentation. Thanks, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng

Re: [Dng] vdev status update

/pts/ umount /dev/pts/ #(re)mount /dev and populate it mkdir -p /dev/pts mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts #I'm not sure where this is. ln -s /run/shm /dev/shm HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [Dng] WIP: mdev packaging

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:12:11PM +0100, Jaromil wrote: dear Isaac, On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/ Somehow, this inspired me to poke

Re: [Dng] about mdev and udev

, but that doesn't mean it gets re-installed automagically after udev is purged, unfortunately :-( mdev does not depend on makedev; it creates devices itself. HTH Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [Dng] WIP: mdev packaging

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 07:09:28PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com

[Dng] WIP: mdev packaging

-b cd .. ## busybox or busybox-static should work. # apt-get install busybox # dpkg -i mdev_0.6-1_all.deb # apt-get purge udev ## this may not be needed (do it if you didn't get a new initramfs ## after purging udev) # update-initramfs -u And reboot. HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [Dng] OT: Linux kernel and the force behind it

tenuous of connections to it, being a later Bell Labs project. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

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