Re: [DNG] chimaera install problem

2022-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ireshark to check that > it's talking to the network and the server - it appears to be doing so > (accessing server at 95.216.15.86). > > I'm wondering if it could be another effect of the recent key expiry > problem. I'd start a shell in the installer envi

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-09-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
, at least not with a recompile, but perhaps xss-lock can help with that. Haven't used it myself (yet?) though. See the manual page at https://bitbucket.org/raymonad/xss-lock/src/master/doc/xss-lock.1.rst.in for details. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen. #!/bin/sh # # xfce4 # #

Re: [DNG] Another problem you won't have without Systemd (or separate oomd)

2022-08-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
oomd does not depend on oomd ... > Thank you for Devuan! Thank you for some sanity. > > And yeah, it appears that with Debian oomd is not installed as standard > so far, but if its in Fedora, it may come with Debian at some point in > time. Or not, after their recent experiences

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
I do think the overall impression he gives is > unfavourable and inaccurate. > > I'm rather more amazed that he labels Devuan (and therefore by extension > Debian too) as "retro" and yet gives a pretty complimentary review, in > comparison, of Slackware! > > Anto

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Gregory, Gregory Nowak via Dng writes: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:54:00PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> OK but if / and /boot are encrypted, something has to be able to decrypt >> that before GRUB can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg. It might be that GRUB is >> a

[DNG] APT configuration directives info (was Re: OpenVPN 2.5.1-3+devuan1 packaging vs best practices)

2022-07-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
feeling. Looking at manual pages, doing web searches and not really finding what you're looking for. I often forget to look below /usr/share/doc/$package/ ... Have a peek at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz -- Olaf Meeuwissen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Antony Stone writes: > On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 11:58:01, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> Hi Antony, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I've been researching a bit myself in the mean >> time as well but still value additional input from the list. > > I complet

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Didier, Didier Kryn writes: > Le 24/07/2022 à 05:18, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit: >> Hi list, >> >> I lost the single SSD on my mini PC and am in the process of rethinking >> its storage. So far, I've got myself two brand new and identical PCIe >> N

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Antony, Thanks for the feedback. I've been researching a bit myself in the mean time as well but still value additional input from the list. Antony Stone writes: > On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 05:18:47, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I lost the

[DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
? - if not, how do I keep the copies in sync? - should I use LVM? - does randomizing the partition for /home make sense if on LVM and may get resized sometime in the future? Thanks in advance, -- Olaf Meeuwissen ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-05-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Mark Hindley writes: > On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 08:38:06AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> and do not have a desktop installed in case that matters. >> Instead I rely on startx to start i3 for me when I need a GUI. > > Ah, so, no libpam-elogind? Yes that probably makes

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-05-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark, list, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes: > Mark Hindley writes: >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:44:44PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: >>> I have had a look at the dependencies again and I think I see the (my!) bug. >>> libelogind-compat has >>>

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
gt; >> which, I think should be >> >> Breaks: libelogind0 (<< 246.10-4~) Oh! Missing digit ... > src:elogind version 246.10-5 with this fixed is being built at the moment. Thanks, waiting for packages to trickle down to daedalus. -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF As

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark, Mark Hindley writes: > Olaf, > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 06:14:26PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Ah! Looking at the currently installed libelogind0=246.10-3, I see it >> Provides: libsystemd0 whereas libelogind0=246.10-4 no longer does. >> >

[DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
just sit this one out, maybe even put libelogind0 on hold for a while, until things are sorted out. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

[DNG] Looking for xorg.conf (was Re: mouse driver question)

2022-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
configuration. As I mentioned in a previous response, nowadays Xorg gets by without this file quite well, most of the time. It simply probes your system and uses what it finds. You can configure things yourself but you'll have to write your own /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself. Hope this

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
esystem entries and about 7000 of those on an NFS backed filesystem on the NAS downstairs. The rest is on an SSD (NVMe). Another point, the grep approach also lists everything below a directory that matches, whereas the -name approach does not. That may be a lot of extra junk to scan through d

[DNG] Looking for a file (was Re: mouse driver question)

2022-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
contents where you can search for both files and packages. All that said, these days the Xorg server works quite well without this file, auto-detecting things upon startup, so chances are you don't have this file. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member si

Re: [DNG] Chimaera installation issue (regulatory.db)

2022-04-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
s that are in main. I do seem to remember that the handling of the file changed a bit and that now the kernel loads it instead of whatever used happen before that. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F

Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages Seems to be there alright. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A

Re: [DNG] browsers

2022-03-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ted with Firefox. >> >> (I've also got Vivaldi, Opera and Falkon available. >> Find that all the other browsers except firefox-esr expect one to >> update almost daily - - - sorry I find that that kind of behavior is >> usually a waste of my time!) Hope this helps, --

Re: [DNG] Kernel Vulnerabilities or who understands this mess

2022-03-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ced mode installation though. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundati

Re: [DNG] Kernel Vulnerabilities or who understands this mess

2022-03-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
("new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed") To: Alexander Viro To: linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org To: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org Cc: sta...@vger.kernel.org Signed-off-by: Max Kellermann Signed-off-by: Al Viro Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman so it l

Re: [DNG] Problems with amdgpu in the latest kernel upgrade? Ort just a glitch for me?

2022-02-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
configuration true for your system. I do and tend to muck around with the apt and network configurations quite a bit but for most part there is a lot of configuration that I use as is. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F8

Re: [DNG] Problems with amdgpu in the latest kernel upgrade? Ort just a glitch for me?

2022-02-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
fit the pattern, and > the best way to purge it. As Antoine mentioned linux-image-amd64 is a meta package that depends on the latest versioned linux-image-$version-amd64 package. See https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=linux-image-amd64=5.15.15-2~bpo11+1

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

2022-02-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
this area, even in the expert installation mode. Checking on my initially jessie installed laptop, subsequently upgraded to ascii and then beowulf, this setting was added when I upgraded dbus from 1.10.22-1+devuan1 to 1.10.22-1+devuan2 (on 2019-03-17). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:43:44AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hendrik Boom writes: >> > >> > > On Sun,

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
rk the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it >> >> My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is >> volatile >> information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and >> that >> won't e

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, tito via Dng writes: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > >> Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : >> > Hi Tito, >> > >> > tito via Dng writes: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> [...

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
nd personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was >> quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. > > I just use /etc/aliases That was my first reaction too ;-) -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
;s/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} so we can see what sources you're using. BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line suits my needs just fine. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gnu

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 12:07:07 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: >> >> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 >> > tempforever wrote: >> > >

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
!) after I recreated swap (moved the partition and ran mkswap on it). Updating /etc/fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to match the changed UUID and running `update-initramfs -u` made it go away. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gnu

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
o used as the default GRUB GUI theme (if you've installed desktop-base, IIRC). Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

[DNG] Screen readability (was Re: The Daedalus desktop needs some love)

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
how to read (pronounce) characters. Hearing it might help prevent a trip to the dictionary ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
blindness and some other visual impairments. I have played around with a tool for Chromium a while back but don't remember it's name. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ting > this, bt a friend of mine who is colourblind tells me it's far more > complicated than this. Yup. Red/green colour blindness is most common but there are many more varieties and some involve more than two colours. A greyscale version is a good first approximation to check whether c

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Steve Litt writes: > [...] Here at Troubleshooters.Com, spaces and all punctuation except > underscore and hyphen are forbidden, but files coming in from the > outside have horrible filenames. Pretty sure you allow periods too ;-P -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associa

Re: [DNG] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
tt@mydesk ~]$ "/usr/bin/cat -n /etc/fstab" | cut -b 1-20 | head -n5 Here your shell looks for a file called "fstab" in a directory called "etc" in a directory called "cat -n " in /usr/bin. > bash: /usr/bin/cat -n /etc/fstab: No such file or d

[DNG] Group for /usr/local (was Re: merged /usr breakage)

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ot;chgrp -R staff /usr/local; chmod -R g+w /usr/local; find /usr/local -type d -exec chmod g+s '{}' \;"; }; ought to keep things the way I prefer them. The snippet uses -R instead of the more descriptive --recursive for brevity. Note that the above is simplistic. If you ha

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
- dunno how but all that was installed was a kernel. What probably happened is that you selected the versioned kernel in the devuan-installer when you first installed that beowulf system. The installer gives you a choice between a versioned kernel and one that tracks the latest version. I don&#x

Re: [DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
n the apt-get and apt.conf manual pages. While the apt.conf settings are honoured by the apt as well as apt-get commands, I am not sure apt will honour the same set of options. Finally, the list of automatically and manually installed packages (as well as those on hold) is maintained via the apt-m

Re: [DNG] Fwd: request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:12 AM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> o1bigtenor via Dng writes: >> >> > Greetings >> > >> > Basic question is: what happened? >> > >> > I wanted

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
-image-amd64 to keep getting the latest version. Adjust for your architecture if necessary. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
to create > this directory and specify it when installing, which makes > uninstallation problematic. > >     In this case, the installer might force the use of ~/bin and ~/man > and create them if they don't exist. If I were you I would make the installation location

Re: [DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
-mark showhold` ought to list any packages that are on hold and `apt-mark unhold` will remove the hold. However, seeing that apt wants to install packages from backports, I'd disable that in your APT sources first and give it another try. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ces for searching > .desktop (alt+F3) and $PATH (alt+F2). Haven't looked at it myself, yet, but dex might be of help. I just saw it getting added as a dependency to i3-wm on daedalus. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900 > >> [stuff about trying to get rid of *pulse packages on an Xfce4 system] > > About the only positive thing I can say about xfce is it's better than > Gnome, KDE and the

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
e's any `|` in there, DON'T feed it to apt-mark. After that you can, in theory, apt purge xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin without losing your xfce4 dependencies. URK! Dogfooding this, I am told that another 150+ are going to be purged, most likely because of task-desktop and task-xfce-deskto

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
sImportant "true"; meaning that automatically installed packages that have only a Suggests: or Recommends: dependency left, i.e. no Depends: or Pre-Depends:, will be removed. Looks like you have something similar in which cause you should probably run apt-mark

Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
but seeing there's a smooth scrolling option too, I'm not sure anymore. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] lpr print pdf file landscape orientation

2021-12-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
fying of PDF files but perhaps pdftopdf can be of help here. It's in the cups-filters-core-drivers package. > If you have a document or image that you are converting to a pdf then > if you format the document or image landscape then the exported pdf > will also be landscape. Hope th

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
test -s /var/mail/$LOGNAME \ && lockmail /var/mail/$LOGNAME \ && /bin/sh -c "cat /var/mail/$LOGNAME | reformail -f0 -s maildrop && >/var/mail/$LOGNAME" Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> On 27 Nov 2021, at 14:24, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Looking at the lesspipe manual page[1] (don't have less installed ;-), >> it seems that it doesn't support on-the-fly encoding switching but as >> far as dealing

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> On 26 Nov 2021, at 20:40, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> >> # On my own machines `lv` makes a fine `pager` for me. On the fly >> # decompression and handling of many different encodings. So for me, >> # it's just &g

[DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
`zcat` piping. There is still no zpager :-/ # but with `lv` I don't really need one. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
x27;t have it, then. For my needs, dmenu and *sh-completion suffice. > * All data you created, and I hope it's *not* in /home. > > Like Nik says, if your goal is to get it back up in 5 minutes, your > best bet is to back up the entire system, as well as the mbr or > whate

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
, if you don't use things like /srv and /opt, there's not much of a cost to backing up the empty directories :-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Suppor

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
n. Note that the latter even includes version info. I would include the output of all three in a backup. It's not a lot of info, just a couple of kb, but may save the day in case restoring does not quite get you where you want to be. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] etckeeper

2021-10-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:52:05PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >> Steve Litt writes: >> >> > After that, take a backup of the new system including /etc and >> > $HOME, then restore

Re: [DNG] Why do I need libselinux1?

2021-10-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
eowulf laptop and e.g. tar and sed both declare a Pre-Depends: on libselinux1. Since these two are both Essential packages, libselinux1 is required on Beowulf. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
based version control to the configuration files you really care about. Hope this helps -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ortunate one needs to surf the web to discover this and there is > no tool in the application menu to configure it. ACK and the manual pages are also not all that useful. IIRC, there's even a bug in there somewhere about translating the locations. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPI

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > Simon said on Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:00:26 +0100 > >>Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> >>>>> Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-) >>>> >>>> ~/bin isn't ideal for two reasons: >>>> >>>>

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
o1bigtenor writes: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > wrote: > >> [... illustrating etckeeper commit messages ...] > > Mr Olaf > (and the rest of devuan land) > > I found apt-cacher-ng to be a useful tool in tracking updates and in > m

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi wirelessduck, wirelessd...@gmail.com writes: >> On 21 Oct 2021, at 22:47, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Hi wirelessduck, >> >> wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> >>>>> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng >>>&

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? (was: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!)

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi spiralofhope, spiralofhope writes: > On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-) > > For me I've only had a few offline custom scripts in: > > $HOME/live/path > > If I thought about it furthe

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Steve Litt writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen said on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 > >>Hi Steve, >> >>Steve Litt writes: > >>> On more thing. When *I* write a program, I never put it in /usr/bin >>> or /usr/local/bin or /opt. I have my own directory, cal

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi wirelessduck, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> >> I really looked into snapshotting but the etckeeper commit messages also >> list which packages changed, like so (after I "beautified" the log

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Curtis, Curtis Maurand via Dng writes: > On 10/18/21 4:36 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> Olaf Meeuwissen said on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 >> >> >>> I keep track of /etc with etckeeper which puts that directory under git >>> version control. That m

Re: [DNG] Chimaera and ntpd/openntpd/chrony???

2021-10-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ling apt-file. BTW, my search made me decide to go with ntpsec instead of ntp. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwareh

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
, and is not > molested by anything in the upgrade. Obviously, this directory is on > the system's executable path.In DOS, Windows, and Linux this segregation > of executables written by me has served me extremely well. I'd suggest > you do it too. Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-)

Re: [DNG] ultrabook boot issues - hybrid hard disk

2021-10-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
I'd mention it anyway. Just a thought, I may also have fiddled with the BIOS to make it boot from the SSD before trying the HDD and made sure I installed GRUB in the MBR of the SSD. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A

Re: [DNG] Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
O (201601123-13:47) for jessie and upgraded to ASCII and later Beowulf. BTW, this machine is a lot less parsimonious and runs Xfce4, comes with wireless network and pulls in Recommends: ... Time to rethink and start that from a clean slate ;-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] [OT] motherboard with "wifi-enabled"

2021-09-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
> electronics. > > Bluetooth is handy for wireless headsets and maybe other things, but I > don't tend to use it myself. No experience yet but looking at a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse to get rid of the cables on my (physical) desktop. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
vely remove automatically installed packages, you may want to mark (some of) the ones you want to keep manual. Just an idea, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Fre

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
rectory, something "evil" is going on, in that the telemetry stuff is using elevated privileges, and it may be time to use nullfsvfs. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
mor > is doing? Just thinking out loud, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

Re: [DNG] /run/user/#

2021-08-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ssh /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent.browser /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent.extra /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent which makes sense because `gpg-agent` is started as part of my Xfce4 session. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gnu

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

2021-08-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
;ll have redundant lines in a tab > indented outline. Look for VimOutliner 3.4 or 3.5. VimOutliner went bad > after 3.5. For the Emacs-inclined, there are several outliner-type modes available of which I personally use [Org mode][1]. This actually supports quite a bit more than jus

Re: [DNG] Fwd: display manager problems

2021-08-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
HI, o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > -- Forwarded message - > From: o1bigtenor > Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] display manager problems > To: Olaf Meeuwissen > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 8:24 PM Olaf Meeuwissen > wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] Fwd: display manager problems

2021-08-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Re: [DNG] display manager problems > To: Olaf Meeuwissen > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 9:27 PM Olaf Meeuwissen > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> o1bigtenor via Dng writes: >> >> > Greetings >> > >> > I've been using lxdm for my display m

Re: [DNG] grub-efi-amd64-signed bug: hardcoded link -> unbootable system

2021-08-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
i-amd64-signed- This is completely untested, so if apt-get starts barfing all kinds of conflicts then I recommend *not* going ahead with this. If all apt-get wants to do is upgrade and/or add a few packages to make it work, that should be okay. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] display manager problems

2021-08-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
/proc/1/cmdline | tr '\0' ' ' and use `dpkg -S bin/init` to determine the package(s) that provide it on your system. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
> SteveT >> >> The FSF publishes a list of Linux-compatible hardware at https://ryf.fsf.org > > Probably only hardware for which the Linux drivers are free. Yes, as in Free Software and certifiedly so ;-) -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, terryc writes: > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:07:43 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi g4sra, >> >> g4sra via Dng writes: >> >> > <--snip--> >> > This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert >>

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
r quirky hardware requires on a USB stick and use it > when prompted! > I do not ever want to have to install an OS from 31 removable media's ever > again! (Windows NT anybody?).___ Me waxes nostalgic and remembers installing Debian from

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ository for its out-of-tree driver. Had to fiddle a little bit to work around Debian<->Devuan issues but it compiles and works fine otherwise. IIRC, there is even a GitHub repository for the sources but I haven't checked if it contains any blobs. The dongle's at the office and I don

Re: [DNG] Missing syslog: SOLVED

2021-07-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom wrote (among other things): > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 06:49:22PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi Hendrik, >> >> Silly question perhaps, but do you have a system-log-daemon installed? >> >> dpkg-query -W | grep syslog >> >

Re: [DNG] Missing syslog

2021-07-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
was still running Debian. That seems to imply you migrated from Debian to Devuan. When you migrated, was there anything that might have prevented your system from keeping a daemon that processes log messages? >> > So why no system log? Maybe your Debian setup only had systemd install

Re: [DNG] Devuan for WSL

2021-07-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
formance hiccups with RancherOS based nodes of my Kubernetes clusters. While I'm okay with digging into the details on the Linux side, I have next to no knowledge/access on the Windoze side. Thanks in advance, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG

Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)

2021-06-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
is your friend: > https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=%22apt-get+dist-upgrade%22+vs+%22apt+full-upgrade%22&ia=web Judging from the URL, you mean DuckDuckGo ;-) A much better search engine when it comes to respecting privacy! -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 20

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Rick, Rick Moen writes: > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > >> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises >> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another matter >> but at least it explains some of t

[DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)

2021-06-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
t; find anything > somewhat contemporary - - - - - hm - - - - - just quite confused!!! On Beowulf, a `man apt` gives a manual page dated 2019-01-27. If you didn't install man-db and/or are looking for on-line manual pages, try https://manpages.debian.org/apt Hope this helps, --

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Simon Walter writes: > On 6/21/21 6:26 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Using adduser/deluser and addgroup/delgroup isn't exactly rocket science >> :-P >> >> If they don't get that, then they probably shouldn't be adminning users >> and permissions t

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ng ntimed-client, which is under 5k lines of > code and implements a full proper NTP client -- competently. > > But no. They had to do their own, and do a much worse job at gratuitous > cost in time and effort. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member sin

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
he same domain. Haven't looked into that # yet ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donat

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ent GUI. I'd cluebat those folks about the CLI first ;-) Using adduser/deluser and addgroup/delgroup isn't exactly rocket science :-P If they don't get that, then they probably shouldn't be adminning users and permissions to begin with ... Just my two yen, -- Olaf Meeuwisse

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
tito via Dng writes: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> d...@d404.nl writes: >> >> > Not hindered by any knowledge about system programming I am >> > wondering how much work it would be to implement a socket &g

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
wondering > how much work it would be to implement a socket activation interface > without systemd. Although what I read about its design it is unnecessary > complicated. Using a tinylog component in systemd until syslogd is > loaded is one example of such complicating solution. > >

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