Re: [DNG] Qt, KDE, unbelievable

2022-01-20 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt wrote: > https://www.neowin.net/news/ads-may-be-coming-to-kde-the-popular-linux-desktop/ > > LOL, I removed every bit of KDE, its executables and libraries, in > 2012. Mostly for the same reasons I refuse to host systemd. Now comes > the possibility of ads on KDE

Re: [DNG] Skype crashes

2021-12-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Haines Brown wrote: > I'm running Chimera. I downloaded current version of skypeforlinux > and installed it. The annoying prompts for password to keyring > I skip. > > The audo and video test ok. But when I try to make a free test call, > Skype crashes. I have similar issues. I have

Re: [DNG] chimaera and xfce look consistency

2021-11-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > XFCE is upgrading to GTK3. The inconsistent look of the windows you've > seen > might be due to old style windows being used alongside newer style. Yes, unfortunate upgrade, it was caused by that > > XFCE isn't a big monolithical application, instead a

Re: [DNG] chimaera and xfce look consistency

2021-11-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Ralph! Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > What you see there is one of the effects of "Client Side Rendering" > which is this new fad that wants to return to the cowboy times of > mid-80's where every GUI program implements its own looks and style. > It's generally called "progress". that was

Re: [DNG] chimaera and xfce look consistency

2021-11-20 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hello, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: Hi, sorry, message was sent without content.. I wonder, something went wrong with Thunderbird which sent out an email when I put the laptop to sleep. What I wanted to write is this. I use xfce since ascii and chimaera: I think it has a consistent

[DNG] chimaera and xfce look consistency

2021-11-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
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Re: [DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

2021-11-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 11/13/21 4:06 PM, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: thanks for the hint. I did the upgrade using directly two of the packages and, voilà things work again and USB disks and CD-ROM appear correctly again in xfce. actually, I was too quick too rejoyce. Installed new eudev and rebooted

Re: [DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

2021-11-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hello Svante, On 11/13/21 1:32 PM, Svante Signell wrote: Preparing to unpack .../eudev_3.2.9-9~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... Since release 198, udev requires support for the following features Hello, this bug has been solved by 3.2.9-10~beowulf1 available from beowulf-proposed-updates. Or directly

[DNG] eudev issue after beowulf upgrade

2021-11-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hello, I upgraded from ascii to beowulf, almost everything smooth exceot eudev which does not upgrade due to this: Preparing to unpack .../eudev_3.2.9-9~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... Since release 198, udev requires support for the following features in the running kernel: - inotify(2)   

[DNG] ultrabook boot issues - hybrid hard disk

2021-10-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, I have installed Chimaera on my Ultrabook - first as beta, then upgraded constantly. The system has a dual-disk setup under windows called smart cache or fast cache. One spinning rust and one smaller SSD. ON windows the two drives are one as one with a cache. Actually, when installing

Re: [DNG] fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-09-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, g4sra via Dng wrote: A web search suggests that the following will compensate for the hardware issues you are experiencing I do not have your hardware and therefore cannot test. edit /etc/default/grub and add parameters for i8042 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash

Re: [DNG] fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-09-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 2021-09-12 09:04:26 +0200 Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > I swear there was a touchpad, now it is totally gone ! I am puzzled. I found out at least why this happens. The EFI BIOS has a setting for "USB Legacy mode" for the pointing device. If I enable it, the touchp

Re: [DNG] fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-09-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Can I ask you back to my oiriginal issue? Installation media issues were worked around anyway. Using chimarera I updated in the meanwhile, kernel, etc. but I still have no working touchpad, a hassle on a small Ultrabook the goal of which is to be portable. I wonder if the issue is at

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, g4sra via Dng wrote: > This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert additional > installation media such as a USB stick. > There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy every corner > case, put the drivers your quirky hardware requires on a USB stick and

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Steve Litt wrote: > I hate the preceding hassle. Every Linux distro's install media should > have all drivers available during installation. After installation, if > the user wishes to remove all non-free from his computer, he can do so. > Or, the installation process can come with an

[DNG] fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all, I "converted" a laptop from Windows 7 to Devuan and as a test, I installed chimaera. The intel display should have no issues. Install wasn't too easy due to the system having only WiFi and no Optical drive - the WiFi needs firmware not included in the install media. I used an USB stick

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 3/26/21 1:07 PM, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS: https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002 It is disgusting. On the GNUstep Mailing list after a post by Richard himself, some people voiced to fork away from GNU, A post,

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 3/26/21 6:49 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:     Next step is trying to ban opponents to systemd ? I wouldn't joke about that too much :) Riccardo ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?

2020-11-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Steve Litt wrote: > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short term being using binary drivers. I  have a 7300 series card (so still 7

Re: [DNG] acx wireless support

2020-11-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Antony, Antony Stone wrote: > Yes, because Devuan itself only contains packages which needed to be modified > from the Debian packages, due to Devuan not using systemd. That explains the term "merged", right? > > All packages which are not affected by systemd not being present are not >

[DNG] acx wireless support

2020-11-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, I have an ACX 111 wireless PCMCIA card which I want to use on Beowulf. I think Debian supports it with acx-mac80211 and the acx100 is retired. I also need firmware, some package it as acx111-firmware some tell you to download it andput it in /lib/firmware However I see no acx packages at

Re: [DNG] Linux kernel boot causing screen to become unreadable.

2020-11-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi! Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: Dear All, Lately, on an HP Probook 4540s, while booting Devuan Boewulf the screen becomes completely unreabled with unsynchronized lines of pixels. I will not be surprised if this is some sick joke by HP, to force their customers to buy new, but I do not know

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 23/08/2020 15:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: There are files and directories. Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity for something which might be a file or a directory? if you refer to the "string" to object on the filesystem, "path" is a good word for it. A Path can

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 6/12/20 9:21 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Maybe try ;https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ kerneloptions to disable all spectre and meltdown stuff I hope you mean the preceding as a diagnostic test and not as a solution. first, diagnostic on what is slowing down and stealing performance in

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all, On 6/13/20 12:24 PM, Patrick Erdmann wrote: Just to be sure, try this line as kernel parameters: noibrs noibpb nopti nospectre_v2 nospectre_v1 l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier mds=off tsx=on tsx_async_abort=off mitigations=off I tried all "noibrs noibpb nopti

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 6/13/20 7:45 PM, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: Do you compile ArcticFox with the same compiler in both cases? GCC gets slower for each release, it seems... Yes, same version, gcc 6.5 - the highest I can use to compile. I have issues compiling it with gcc 7 (actually, linking it...).

[DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all! I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same applications, same hard disk... just "apt-get dist-upgrade" essentially. I even kept gcc6 because I had it before and I

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-06-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi! On 5/28/20 11:35 AM, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: There’s also a slightly newer version 4.19 available from backports repository. While not as new as the most recent stable kernel, it might be quicker and easier to test out than compiling as it’s available through apt.

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-05-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all let me resurrect this thread. I am now working on this computer regular, lockdown has lessened here in Italy and I hope all you Devuaners are in good help. Unfortunately stability did not improve much On 3/18/20 4:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: (1) Do we even know it's a kernel

[DNG] Touchpad issues

2020-05-25 Thread RIccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi All! I just devuanized "with success" another Toshiba Satellite. Although much newer and faster than the older one I had running Debian first, this one would still fall in the "Vintage" category. Same installation layout... it is quite nice to use! The laptop is very nice to use, things

Re: [DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Antony Stone wrote: I'm assuming that you're saying that things got noticeably worse when you "upgraded" from Debian 7 Wheezy to Debian 8 Jessie (with the introduction of systemd), but is that correct? Yes. But things got even worse with Debian 9. I'm intrigued as to how "like for

Re: [DNG] DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi "Tux" tuxd3v wrote: If someone is interested.. I can use also some help, no tot hijack this One nice thing would be deb packages for it, on i686:) I don't have a fast enough i686 machine with Devuan.. it needs 1.5GB of ram at least. Maybe a version compiled on Ubuntu 16 works? For me

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hello Aitor, aitor wrote: The issue was the same as you pointed out: that is, the version of the compiler. It worked for me only with gcc-6. Trying with gcc-7 the build process ends upwith the mentioned non declared functions. No idea about a possible solution so far.About the missing

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi! aitor wrote: > > I have ArcticFox working on amd64: > > http://gnuinos.org/arcticfox/arcticfox.png > > http://gnuinos.org/arcticfox/beta-devuan.png > > Here you are the tarball: > > gnuinos.org/arcticfox/arcticfox_amd64.tar.bz2 > wonderful! Riccardo

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Aitor, aitor wrote: >> >> >> ... or the requirement of a C linkage? >> > > Forget that, the origin of the issue is in the mozconfig file, i guess. > what was the issue? please tell me. I get missing symbols if I use any compiler newer than gcc 6.5 on linux (e.g. gcc 7, gcc8). So on

[DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-10 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi all! I want to cheer up and write thanks with a small success story of Devuan and comparison to Debian. I have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, with a wonderful soft touch keyboard, PS/2 Port, Serial console... very readable screen (althoug 800x600!) which always had Debian which I kept

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-08 Thread RIccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, On 08/05/2020 22:34, Steve Litt wrote: Arctic fox is a fork of PaleMoon. This is a good thing, because I and a whole bunch of people dropped PaleMoon when PaleMoon's "executives" issued lawyer threats to the OpenBSD project. rest assured, no such restrictions for Arctic Fox. We offer no

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Raul Claro wrote:     is there a way of holding a video- or an audioconference with Firefox (or Vivaldi) on Devuan?  The ones I have come in contact with. such als /https://global.gotomeeting.com/, /work only with Windows or Mac and Chrome. Are there any Debian/Devuan alternatives

Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII

2020-05-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, aitor_czr wrote: Tar is installed by default in the core system of devuan (first and second stages of debootstrap. In any case, i started working on my own minimalist browser. It's not a joke: http://www.gnuinos.org/screenshots/Screenshot_2020-04-11_18-14-41.png At least, i only need a

[DNG] older X drivers removed from debian

2020-04-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, debian sadly removed some older video drivers: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=955603 several of these are currently working or any case usable with some workaround: most importantly they keep being useful a series of wonderful laptops.. x86 and PPC. Yes some could

Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > I've not noticed any problems but I've not been running anything CPU > intensive. My processor is a AMD Phenon II X4 910e. could be... The problematic laptop has Intel Core2 processors, I have another laptop, similarly configured except the desktop environment,

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-03-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, right now I don't have access to the computer - due to quarantine restrictions I cannot move from my house. Hendrik Boom wrote: > (1) Do we even know it's a kernel problem? I think yes. I am using ascii. The laptop has always been rock-stable. I upgrade the kernel, I get two freezes in a

Re: [DNG] xbattmon

2020-03-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt wrote: > A few weeks ago we discussed simple, works-on-all-wmde components like > fbpanel. Another one that I like is xbattmon. It's a no-frills battery > monitor that presents as a very thin horizontal "gauge" across the > bottom of the screen, whether or not you have a

[DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola via Dng
Hi, I am using Devuan on an HP laptop with intel 64bit cpu. Everything worked very well, I did a lot of compilation and it is very stable, never had a freeze in months! [    0.10] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0xf, stepping: 0x6) [