Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> And about the recompiling the kernel on each update if you want no
> initramfs: I wonder how intentional that extreme inconvenience is.
It's not _that_ inconvenient. Once you craft a suitable .config for
your use-case, it's just a small wait
Quoting Tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> if you are brave you can erase grub from mbr of the disk:
>
> Zero out MBR. (but not all of it!) You need to use 'dd' to erase the
> MBR. For my machine the command was:
>
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/YOUR_DRIVE bs=446 count=1
The need for bravery can
Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
> Yes and no:
>
> -n Use SNTP (old RFC 2030, currently RFC 5905) instead of the RFC
> 868 time protocol.
>
> # rdate -n ntp.xs4all.nl
> Fri Jun 12 12:07:04 CEST 2020
Point taken. SNTP _is_ worthy of respect -- but I'd personally
Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
> Have a look at "rdate":
I'm glad it works for you, but no.
RFC 868 Time Protocol was obsoleted when NTP became ubiquotous in the
1980s. IMO, there's no point in keeping rdate(8) around when there are
multiple good NTP implementations
Quoting tux...@sapo.pt (tux...@sapo.pt):
> problems with rtc clock are not uncommon, the need for a power
> cycle, seems to be..
>
> This discrepancies, in the date, .. how many days it takes to
> happen, does you have any Idea?
> does the Boards are properly powerup?I mean suficient levels of
>
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> Well, *they* claimed their model was to make money out of
> complexity, as Steve reported. It's not a suputation, it's an
> official statement. Therefore no idea of a conspiracy from Steve.
I note without special objection that you aren't addressing
Quoting Joel Roth via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> While it may be tiresome to some, I think it can be valuable
> to occasionally revisit the reasons for Devuan's existence.
Distinguo:
The reasons for Devuan's existence involve avoiding getting dragged
along by Debian Project's poor
Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Um, is this what you were referring to ?
> https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisition-red-hat-34-billion-defines-open-hybrid-cloud-future
Oh, _do_ go on, sir.
Sadly, I'm guessing you actually have no plan to flesh
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> When a company takes action to increase its share of the market and/or
> its cash flow, we normally do not call that a conspiration. It is
> legitimate to write about it and discuss the actions it takes.
And, in the matter at hand, RHAT's underwriting of
Quoting dal (d...@chalmers.se):
> would you please cease using negatively charged buzzwords, like
> "conspiracy theories"
It's not necessarily derogation to use that and similar phrases: It's
description. To quote Richard Hostadter's ground-breaking 1964 article:
Nothing really prevents a
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> > Steve's is a classic non-testable paranoid
>
> It would be testable if we could put on the witness stand under oath
> somebody who attended the meetings that decided to push systemd.
I mean, of course, testable in the real world.
Meanwhile,
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> Specifically, it says:
>
> "Do you think the Red Hat model would apply equally well to other
> areas of software? "
>
> "Red Hat's model works because of the complexity of the technology we
> work with. An operating platform has a lot of moving
Quoting Jim Jackson (j...@franjam.org.uk):
> My detachable backups devices have unique partitions labels and I place a
> specifically named file in the root of the partition. My backup scripts
> check for both and give up if they can't find both. THEN I do the dmesg
> thing :-)
Both really
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Substitute the word "needlessly complex" for "overengineered" and I
> don't like it either. But 1), I don't think you'd get anywhere near
> universal agreement that by_path, by_id, etc is either overengineered
> or needlessly complex, [...]
One
Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org):
> Last year I nearly lost all my image and audio data, some 100G. I guess
> that's small potatoes today, but anyway _very_ valuable to me. It
> happened because I gave the wrong /dev/sd* name in a dd command when I
> was putting something on a stick,
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> If you're referring to the ethernet device being eno1 or enWhichUSB22
> instead of eth0, or wxbd3 or wl21Poettering423 instead of wlan0, I
> prefer the new way. Here's why:
No, that's not what I meant (and network interfaces don't have device
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it):
> It may have been sold that way in the early days, but it's now
> infiltrated so many parts of the GNU / Linux system that just telling
> people (or showing them) that they can use something else to manage
> their daemons is no longer
Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org):
> Hi Rick :)
Greetings, friend!
> Is there a reference to a Debian mailing list (or a similar digital
> history document) where the decision to switch to Postfix was taken?
Upon re-examination, I believe I erred, and Exim4 remains Default MTA in
Passing along as Postfix is now default MTA for Devuan/Debian.
Untested by this reporter. (Personally, I still like Exim4.)
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Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 20:22:18 -0700
From: William Tracy
To: "General NBLUG chatter about anything Linux, answers to
Quoting tom (t...@206-212-236-243.static.onlinenw.com):
> suggests? you mean flat out blocks anyone not on chrome or firefox
Do your Web browsers tell the truth when queried for User-Agent? How
very 1995 of you. ;->
--
Cheers,
Rick Moen"The first rule of
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Arctic fox is a fork of PaleMoon. This is a good thing, because I and a
> whole bunch of people dropped PaleMoon when PaleMoon's "executives"
> issued lawyer threats to the OpenBSD project.
I'll say just one more time, because you tend to ignore
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 03:59:27PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote:
> >
> > interesting. I drop a line for ArcticFox then, since I am currently its
> > main contributor.
>
> I hope there's no danger of a name conflict, but "Arctic Fox" was
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