Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
Hendrik Boom said on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:49:31 -0400 >Should I take this as evidence that "google" is now a generic word, >like kleenex? I use the word "web search", or "search the web". SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:42:01PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Alessandro, > > Alessandro Vesely via Dng writes: > > > Google is your friend: > > https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt=%22apt-get+dist-upgrade%22+vs+%22apt+full-upgrade%22=web > > Judging from the URL, you mean DuckDuckGo ;-) Should I take this as evidence that "google" is now a generic word, like kleenex? > A much better search engine when it comes to respecting privacy! But a worse oe for the few times when you *want* it to take your search history into account as context for your new search. > -- > Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 > GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 > Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate > Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
Hi Alessandro, Alessandro Vesely via Dng writes: > On Sun 27/Jun/2021 11:07:33 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:44:00 +0900, Olaf wrote in message >> <87czs887cf.fsf@quark>: >> >> >>> Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and >>> dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package >>> dependency conflict resolution it identical for both. >> >> ..they are slightly different and I don't recall the differences right >> now. > > > Google is your friend: > https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt=%22apt-get+dist-upgrade%22+vs+%22apt+full-upgrade%22=web Judging from the URL, you mean DuckDuckGo ;-) A much better search engine when it comes to respecting privacy! -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
On Sun 27/Jun/2021 11:07:33 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:44:00 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87czs887cf.fsf@quark>: Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package dependency conflict resolution it identical for both. ..they are slightly different and I don't recall the differences right now. Google is your friend: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt=%22apt-get+dist-upgrade%22+vs+%22apt+full-upgrade%22=web While apt upgrade seems to be slightly more rounded than apt-get upgrade —the former can install new packages introduced as dependencies— the respective full-upgrade and dist-upgrade do the same thing. For the record, I did apt-get upgrade, which is presumably why I missed USB mounting. Best Ale -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:44:00 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87czs887cf.fsf@quark>: > Please keep in mind that apt and apt-get are two different commands. > That said, their sets of upgrade subcommands overlap a bit. Checking > the manual pages > > apt: upgrade full-upgrade > apt-get: upgrade dist-upgrade dselect-upgrade ..whenever (my goto) aptitude upgrade fails, one of the 2 above usually solves the dependency puzzle, IME at least apt-get and aptitude solves these dependency etc puzzles slightly differently, which is why and how one may work when the other fails. > Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and > dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package > dependency conflict resolution it identical for both. ..they are slightly different and I don't recall the differences right now. > On Beowulf, a `man apt` gives a manual page dated 2019-01-27. If you > didn't install man-db and/or are looking for on-line manual pages, try > > https://manpages.debian.org/apt -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
Hi, o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 5:03 AM Alessandro Vesely via Dng > wrote: >> >> On Sat 26/Jun/2021 11:45:46 +0200 o1bigtenor wrote: >> > so you're suggesting the use of >> > # apt update >> > # apt full-grade >> > or is that >> > # apt full-upgrade? >> >> apt-get dist-upgrade? >> > Methinks that's something else again - - - - but - - - I'm getting > confused!!! Please keep in mind that apt and apt-get are two different commands. That said, their sets of upgrade subcommands overlap a bit. Checking the manual pages apt: upgrade full-upgrade apt-get: upgrade dist-upgrade dselect-upgrade Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package dependency conflict resolution it identical for both. On top of that, if you've been tinkering with configuratin options results may differ yet again. > When I look up the man page for apt - - - h - - - its now apt-rpm > and last updates are from 2008 (just a wee while ago). Can't seem to > find anything > somewhat contemporary - - - - - hm - - - - - just quite confused!!! On Beowulf, a `man apt` gives a manual page dated 2019-01-27. If you didn't install man-db and/or are looking for on-line manual pages, try https://manpages.debian.org/apt Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
