Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS(and create an computing museum?)

2020-08-26 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
g4sra : Anybody with a computer museum wanna give me a job ? Hi, I've got a bunch of historical computers of different sorts(most of them are working fine), pieces, documentations, magazines, books, ads... and dream about such a place too(especially with fully working NeXT stations!!!)!

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Isn't there another FAT? called something like exfat? WHich is > required (only by spec) for sd cards above a specific size? Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT -- Cheers, "My hot flight attendant asked how I like my

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 03:33:19PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > > > I have a suggestion ... > > Create a small partition in NTFS or Fat, and put some files on there > > saying what else is on the drive - and some hints on how to access it. > > Well,

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 03:38:32PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Haines Brown (hai...@histomat.net): > > > With a sector of 512 bytes, it fat32 is apparently limit to 2 Tb. I'm > > unclear whether a limit on the number of files becomes a problem. Vfat > > might be analternative. > > VFAT

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Haines Brown (hai...@histomat.net): > With a sector of 512 bytes, it fat32 is apparently limit to 2 Tb. I'm > unclear whether a limit on the number of files becomes a problem. Vfat > might be analternative. VFAT _is_ FAT32, just with a very dodgy long-filename extension. Of possible

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > I have a suggestion ... > Create a small partition in NTFS or Fat, and put some files on there > saying what else is on the drive - and some hints on how to access it. Well, and (assuming this drive is in an external case) attach ruggedly to the

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Simon Hobson
Haines Brown wrote: > I left the drive NTFS because I wanted easy access to the drive for folks > (granschildren) who do not run Linux. > > Othersie I prefer ext4. When you say NTFS is slower, to you mean three times > slower (which I am experiencing) or a bit slower? In my experience, as

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 03:04:12PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 05:33:16PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > My bad, changed from '#!/bin/bash' syntax to '#!/bin/sh' > > > > # this must follow immediately after the mount command > > if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then > > echo

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Haines Brown
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 05:33:16PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > My bad, changed from '#!/bin/bash' syntax to '#!/bin/sh' > > # this must follow immediately after the mount command > if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then > echo "Mount Failed!" > exit 1 > fi I'll give it a try. Thanks. > Easy access to

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Haines Brown
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 01:38:57PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 12:02:37PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11:46AM +0200, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > > > Haines Brown [07.08.2020 18:19]: > > > > > > > Yes, for sure. If you are right about the

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 12:02:37PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11:46AM +0200, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > > Haines Brown [07.08.2020 18:19]: > > > > > Yes, for sure. If you are right about the speed difference between > > > NTFS and ext4, then is there another FS

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/08/2020 16:55, Haines Brown wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 02:53:13PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> 3) abort if the mount fails >> [ $? -eq 0 ] || {echo "Mount Failed!"; exit 1;} > > I put this line into my backup script and only got a syntax error. My bad, changed from '#!/bin/bash'

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Haines Brown
On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11:46AM +0200, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > Haines Brown [07.08.2020 18:19]: > > > Yes, for sure. If you are right about the speed difference between > > NTFS and ext4, then is there another FS that can be accessed by a > > Windows machine that is not much slower

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Haines Brown
On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 02:53:13PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > > > >> Post your backup script for others to look over. > > > > > > #!/bin/bash > >

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:17:06PM -0400, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > I just mounted up an NTFS mount on my Ascii desktop.  It loaded up fairly > quickly.  Any other operation such as opening a folder with a lot of entries > took a very long time.  This is on a Seagate Baracuda 1TB plugged

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/08/2020 14:53, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > E.g. /etc/fstab >/dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 That should be /dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defaults,noauto 0 0

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > >> Post your backup script for others to look over. > > > #!/bin/bash > a="=" > b="Start: " > c=$(date) > mount /mnt/backup & 1) Don't

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 03:27:43PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Haines Brown wrote: > > Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a > > script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. > > > > I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Joel Roth via Dng
Haines Brown wrote: > Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a > script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. > > I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB drive, and they > took around 3 hours. However, I became nervous about the

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Harald Arnesen via Dng
Haines Brown [07.08.2020 18:19]: > Yes, for sure. If you are right about the speed difference between > NTFS and ext4, then is there another FS that can be accessed by a > Windows machine that is not much slower than ext4? fat32. Or if you run a recent kernel on your Linux machine (Devuan 5.4

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:01:09PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Nothing in logs. But I don't unserstand this DBus syslog message that > comes up every second or so: > > Aug 7 09:29:26 engels brltty[720]: DBus error: send message: > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Curtis Maurand via Dng
I just mounted up an NTFS mount on my Ascii desktop.  It loaded up fairly quickly.  Any other operation such as opening a folder with a lot of entries took a very long time.  This is on a Seagate Baracuda 1TB plugged into a generic drive dock and connected by USB 3.0. I would say that the

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > Check your logs for USB Bus resets, any device on the USB bus can > cause these which will add seconds for every occurrence (a USB TV > stick can make a backup crawl). Nothing in logs. But I don't unserstand this DBus syslog message

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 07/08/2020 17:19, Haines Brown wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:57:18PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: It is extremely slow, but I am unsure just how slow, but 3-4 times slower sounds about right. Wow! If the drive is never plugged into a Windows machine, then there is no point

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:57:18PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > It is extremely slow, but I am unsure just how slow, but 3-4 times slower > sounds about right. Wow! > If the drive is never plugged into a Windows machine, then there is no point > in it being formatted as NTFS. I do

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 07/08/2020 16:46, Haines Brown wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 03:58:40PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: Do you use the USB drive on Windows, if not, just reformat it to ext4, ntfs-3g is a FUSE system, it isn't a fast as you would like. Thanks Roland. I left the drive NTFS because I

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 03:58:40PM +0100, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > Do you use the USB drive on Windows, if not, just reformat it to ext4, > ntfs-3g is a FUSE system, it isn't a fast as you would like. Thanks Roland. I left the drive NTFS because I wanted easy access to the drive for folks

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 07/08/2020 15:47, Haines Brown wrote: Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB drive, and they took around 3 hours. However, I became nervous

[DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-07 Thread Haines Brown
Cron automatiically backs up some partitions on my HD by means of a script. Not sure of the size of thse backupos, but perhaps 300 Mb. I have been doing the backups to an external WD USB drive, and they took around 3 hours. However, I became nervous about the condition of the drive which is