Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
On 27-07-17 22:13, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: On 27.07.2017 17:35, Narcis Garcia wrote: El 27/07/17 a les 09:51, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult ha escrit: On 27.07.2017 06:13, Narcis Garcia wrote: vzquota does in OpenVZ does what LXC doesn't. Sure ? Proxmox somehow manages to do it (via lxc). Maybe look at their code to find out how its done. * Proxmox VE distribution is based on Systemd (since 2015) thats why i didnt upgrade yet. maybe we should also repackage proxmox w/o lennartware. Installing Proxmox on Devuan is on my todo list for next two weeks or so. I will report the results on this list. Grtz Nick ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
On 27.07.2017 17:35, Narcis Garcia wrote: El 27/07/17 a les 09:51, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult ha escrit: On 27.07.2017 06:13, Narcis Garcia wrote: vzquota does in OpenVZ does what LXC doesn't. Sure ? Proxmox somehow manages to do it (via lxc). Maybe look at their code to find out how its done. * Proxmox VE distribution is based on Systemd (since 2015) thats why i didnt upgrade yet. maybe we should also repackage proxmox w/o lennartware. * No "dir" storage for containers; the most thin seems to be LVM Eh ? I have that running here. (on older proxmox) --mtx ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
El 27/07/17 a les 09:51, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult ha escrit: > On 27.07.2017 06:13, Narcis Garcia wrote: > >> vzquota does in OpenVZ does what LXC doesn't. > > Sure ? Proxmox somehow manages to do it (via lxc). Maybe look at > their code to find out how its done. > * Proxmox VE distribution is based on Systemd (since 2015) * No Devuan templates to create Devuan containers. * No "dir" storage for containers; the most thin seems to be LVM volumes; then the space transparency comes from a separated partition~volume and not from per-directory quota. --> Very similar situation to OpenVZ 7 * Host system is 64bits only. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
El 27/07/17 a les 04:03, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult ha escrit: > On 26.07.2017 21:15, Adam Borowski wrote: > >> The future is lxc, which has some new tricks, but offers nowhere close to >> the level of isolation openvz and vserver had. Unprivileged containers >> aren't bad, but still quite lacking. > > Whats missing in lxc? vzquota does in OpenVZ does what LXC doesn't. I've tried to apply btrfs per-directory (subvolume) quotas for "dir" containers, but them are an invisible limitation for guest. LXC is stable, but incomplete in this area. This is the reason to qualify OpenVZ as more mature solution. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
El 26/07/17 a les 23:15, Adam Borowski ha escrit: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 09:02:14PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: >> Hello, documentation and containers are written and tested to Devuan 1.0 >> works as host and as guest: >> >> https://openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian_8 >> Container templates: >> https://openvz.org/Download/template/precreated >> >> OpenVZ 6 remains as one of the most mature and stable solutions for >> operating-system-level virtualization. > > I for one had better experiences with vserver than with openvz. > > Sadly both are abandoned; vserver at kernel 3.18, openvz at 3.10. This > actually does make a difference: > * stretch/ascii require kernel 3.2 (assuming no systemd, otherwise 3.13) > * buster/beowulf are likely to be bumped to 3.16 > > The future is lxc, which has some new tricks, but offers nowhere close to > the level of isolation openvz and vserver had. Unprivileged containers > aren't bad, but still quite lacking. > > > Meow! > Unlike VServer, OpenVZ 6 stable kernels are still being released (deb packages too): https://openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6/042stab123.9 Here you have the guide for stretch/ascii: https://openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian_9 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
On 26.07.2017 21:15, Adam Borowski wrote: The future is lxc, which has some new tricks, but offers nowhere close to the level of isolation openvz and vserver had. Unprivileged containers aren't bad, but still quite lacking. Whats missing in lxc? --mtx ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] OpenVZ 6 ready with Devuan 1
Hello, documentation and containers are written and tested to Devuan 1.0 works as host and as guest: https://openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian_8 Container templates: https://openvz.org/Download/template/precreated OpenVZ 6 remains as one of the most mature and stable solutions for operating-system-level virtualization. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
