Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-08 Thread Jeremy Ardley via Dng
On 9/9/22 3:24 am, Simon Hobson wrote: Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: I configure strict postfix rules that incoming mail should have a reverse DNS. I find grey-listing to be by far the most effective spam blocker. I use postscreen rather than grey-listing. It does much the same delay

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-08 Thread Simon Hobson
Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > I configure strict postfix rules that incoming mail should have a > reverse DNS. Ah, we’re talking two different checks. I too reject connections if there’s no reverse DNS, but ideally that reverse DNS should forward resolve to a list (one or more IPs)

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2022-09-08 at 11:29 +, jkinne...@yahoo.ca wrote: >  Would anyone have the infrastructure to help us less advantaged FOSS > advocates > who got trampled on by big tech and the pandemic with the appropriate email > address > to stay involved in the discussion if this experiment happens? 

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-08 Thread jkinney23--- via Dng
Would anyone have the infrastructure to help us less advantaged FOSS advocates who got trampled on by big tech and the pandemic with the appropriate email address to stay involved in the discussion if this experiment happens? I just got here and I love it. I'd otherwise need a bit more time if

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2022-09-08 at 10:29 +0200, marc wrote: > > I am considering starting an admin list, where one can only > subscribe with an address starting with admin@... and > perhaps only one admin@... per IP. I suggest a name other than admin@, because people are probably using admin@ for other

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-08 Thread marc
Gregory Nowak was quoted by Simon Hobson: > > I have toyed more than once with the question of what would happen if > > a group of us running our own mail exchanges made the choice to > > reject mail from gmail.com with a 550? If a few of us did it, we might > > miss mail we maybe wanted to get.

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-06 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
Hi Simon, On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 21:22 +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > declassed art via Dng wrote: > > > I do have an unconfigured PTR for a couple of reasons, one  > > of those is lack of static IP for now. > > I figured out quite quickly that checking reverse DNS is a waste of > time - too many

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-06 Thread Adrian Zaugg
> Maybe related news, and some more reading: > > https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/08/today-in-google-broke-email/ No, it is not related, he just needs to get SRS implemented. Regards, Adrian. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-05 Thread Simon Hobson
declassed art via Dng wrote: > I do have an unconfigured PTR for a couple of reasons, one of those is lack > of static IP for now. I figured out quite quickly that checking reverse DNS is a waste of time - too many systems, even those run by professional network/server engineers, are just

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Fri 02/Sep/2022 22:09:27 +0200 marc wrote: But look here: This is the sending host for the DNG mailing list: Received: from mail.dyne.org (ns3218761.ip-162-19-139.eu [162.19.139.95]) I think OVH allows classless delegation or at least setting PTRs for fixed IPs. I'd guess it's laziness

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-02 Thread marc
Hello > >But look here: This is the sending host for the DNG mailing list: > > > > Received: from mail.dyne.org (ns3218761.ip-162-19-139.eu [162.19.139.95]) > > > I think OVH allows classless delegation or at least setting PTRs for fixed > IPs. I'd guess it's laziness the reason why it isn't

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-02 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Thu 01/Sep/2022 23:22:13 +0200 marc wrote: It's imperative that you have rdns, spf, dkim and dmarc set up and that it all matches. My MTA will reject you if your ptr doesn't match your a record and your helo/ehlo hostname. spf, dkim and dmarc are all scored via spamassassin. Google

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-02 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 01-09-2022 23:46, marc wrote: Hello I use gmail, and seem to be getting email from this list. I wonder if it is because I have it skip the inbox, and go straight into a different label. I think you are on to something: It could well be that there has been a shift to using how the

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-01 Thread golinux
On 2022-08-31 10:04, Curtis Maurand wrote: I’ve been running my own MTA for 15+ years. occasionally I get bounced. recently was bounced by sbcglobal (AT) who doesn’t respond to removal requests. It’s definitely a PITA. However, in all fairness, I was sending to a large group (25 or so)and that

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-01 Thread marc
Hello > I use gmail, and seem to be getting email from this list. I wonder if it > is because I have it skip the inbox, and go straight into a different > label. I think you are on to something: It could well be that there has been a shift to using how the recipients organise their gmail (do you

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-01 Thread marc
Hello > It???s imperative that you have rdns, spf, dkim and dmarc set up and that it > all matches. > > My MTA will reject you if your ptr doesn???t match your a record and your > helo/ehlo hostname. spf, skim and dmarc are all scored via spamassassin. > Google rejects, outright, if there

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Thu 01/Sep/2022 18:33:48 +0200 Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 11:30:43AM +1000, onefang wrote: The problem with PTRs is that I run several domains from the one IP address, and PTR can only point to one of those. It costs money to get more IPs, my pension is barely coping with

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-09-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 11:30:43AM +1000, onefang wrote: > > The problem with PTRs is that I run several domains from the one IP > address, and PTR can only point to one of those. It costs money to get > more IPs, my pension is barely coping with the recent cost of living > increases. If IP's

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread onefang
On 2022-08-31 11:04:51, Curtis Maurand wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 31, 2022, at 10:39 AM, marc wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems > > have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs > > a notch or two. > > >

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 09:14:31AM +0200, marc wrote: > Hi > > Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems > have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs > a notch or two. > > IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message > such as > > Our

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread Mike Schmitz via Dng
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 09:14:31AM +0200, marc wrote: > Hi > > Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems > have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs > a notch or two. > > IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message > such as > > Our

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread Curtis Maurand
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2022, at 10:39 AM, marc wrote: > > Hi > > Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems > have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs > a notch or two. > > IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message >

Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread declassed art via Dng
I do have an unconfigured PTR for a couple of reasons, one of those is lack of static IP for now. But I never had problems with gmail. Instead, I have problems with this list which rejects my messages sent from my own MTA because they cannot find a hostname for my IP. So I have to post from my

[DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread marc
Hi Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs a notch or two. IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message such as Our system has detected that this message is likely unsolicited mail. To