Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-29 Thread Dave Turner
Another step forward, apt-get dist-upgrade fixed two of the held-back 
packages.


On 28/08/15 20:13, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
I do not know a solution for this behavior but you do not need 
aptitude in this situation you can do apt-get dist-upgrade to fix 
those upgrades that get held back for various reasons.



Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:45:51 +0100
From: Dave Turnerdave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk
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Subject: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude
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I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to
examine the various possibilities the names of the packages to be
removed or installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted
characters from other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question
marks etc.

Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.


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Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-29 Thread Dave Turner

Isaac,
ncurses-term and ncurses-base are installed.
the output of

 env |grep -e TERM -e LC -e LANG -e LOCALE

is TERM=xterm
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
COLORTERM=xfce4-terminal

my laptop is now only running xfce4, and slim is gone because I prefer 
to login into a terminal and then startx when I want to / need to.


DaveT

On 29/08/15 01:37, Isaac Dunham wrote:

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:45:51AM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:

I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to examine
the various possibilities the names of the packages to be removed or
installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted characters from
other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question marks etc.

Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.

What's your terminal?
Are ncurses-term and ncurses-base installed?
What does this command output:
  env |grep -e TERM -e LC -e LANG -e LOCALE

I ask these because I'm *guessing* that it's one of the following:
-you don't have TERM pointing to an installed  correct termcap/terminfo
database
-your localization is screwy
-you have the wrong fonts (not likely unless it's a plain xlib terminal)


HTH,
Isaac Dunham



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Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-29 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 03:01:26PM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:
 On 29/08/15 01:37, Isaac Dunham wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:45:51AM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:
 I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
 It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
 I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
 upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
 Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to examine
 the various possibilities the names of the packages to be removed or
 installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted characters from
 other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question marks etc.
 
 Any ideas what is going on?

 What's your terminal?
 Are ncurses-term and ncurses-base installed?
 What does this command output:
   env |grep -e TERM -e LC -e LANG -e LOCALE
 
 I ask these because I'm *guessing* that it's one of the following:
 -you don't have TERM pointing to an installed  correct termcap/terminfo
 database
 -your localization is screwy
 -you have the wrong fonts (not likely unless it's a plain xlib terminal)

 ncurses-term and ncurses-base are installed.
 the output of
 
  env |grep -e TERM -e LC -e LANG -e LOCALE
 
 TERM=xterm
 LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
 LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
 COLORTERM=xfce4-terminal

Maybe try running aptitude with TERM=xfce and COLORTERM=xfce or go
ls /usr/share/terminfo/x/xfce4-terminal?
(Here, terminfo only has xfce.)

Check that you're using a UTF8 font?

These are my bestt guesses; if they don't work, I'd be stumped.

HTH,
Isaac

PS:
A: Because it messes up the reading order.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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[DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-28 Thread Dave Turner

I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those 
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to 
examine the various possibilities the names of the packages to be 
removed or installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted 
characters from other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question 
marks etc.


Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox, 
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.

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[DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-28 Thread aitor_czr

Try with:

# dpkg-reconfigure console-data

Aitor.

On 28/08/15 13:21, Dave Turner 
dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk wrote:

I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to
examine the various possibilities the names of the packages to be
removed or installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted
characters from other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question
marks etc.

Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.


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Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-28 Thread Dave Turner

console-data was not installed so I installed it.
Configured it. No difference.
Rebooted. No difference.
Rummaged around the interweb found assorted files to look at, 
reconfigured locale, had another go at configuring the keyboard. Rebooted.

No difference!

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion Aitor. It is all part of the fun of 
running 'unstable'.

I'll keep surfing.

DaveT


On 28/08/15 13:34, aitor_czr wrote:

Try with:

# dpkg-reconfigure console-data

Aitor.

On 28/08/15 13:21, Dave Turner 
dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk wrote:

I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to
examine the various possibilities the names of the packages to be
removed or installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted
characters from other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question
marks etc.

Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.




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Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-28 Thread info at smallinnovations.nl
I do not know a solution for this behavior but you do not need aptitude 
in this situation you can do apt-get dist-upgrade to fix those upgrades 
that get held back for various reasons.



Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:45:51 +0100
From: Dave Turnerdave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk
To:dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude
Message-ID:55e011af.6050...@barradas.free-online.co.uk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to
examine the various possibilities the names of the packages to be
removed or installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted
characters from other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question
marks etc.

Any ideas what is going on?

I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.


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Re: [DNG] strange characters when using 'examine' in aptitude

2015-08-28 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:45:51AM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:
 I run devuan unstable 'ceres' on my Toshiba laptop and my iMac.
 It all works with just a bit of weirdness.
 I use apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and then use aptitude to fix those
 upgrades that get held back for various reasons.
 Whenever I highlight one of the held back packages and press 'e' to examine
 the various possibilities the names of the packages to be removed or
 installed are mangled with block characters and/or assorted characters from
 other non-Latin1 character sets. Upside down question marks etc.
 
 Any ideas what is going on?
 
 I am using the slim login manager and then depending on my mood fluxbox,
 xfce, or lumina - the new desktop from pc-bsd.

What's your terminal?
Are ncurses-term and ncurses-base installed?
What does this command output:
 env |grep -e TERM -e LC -e LANG -e LOCALE

I ask these because I'm *guessing* that it's one of the following:
-you don't have TERM pointing to an installed  correct termcap/terminfo
database
-your localization is screwy
-you have the wrong fonts (not likely unless it's a plain xlib terminal)


HTH,
Isaac Dunham
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