Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-05 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 11:17:53 +0100 Jaromil wrote: [...] > Meanwhile, in my opinion, of course you should not incorporate this > change into Devuan. This change specifically gives the finger to a > certain subset of users, and that's no good at all. Here's an essay I > wrote

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-04 Thread Mitt Green
>>> Retaining the old way of pinning today is like retaining ndiswrapper in >>> 2006: Perhaps religionally unpalatable, but absolutely necessary to a >>> subset of users. I hope you don't incorporate this change. ‎ >>> And perhaps not even religionally unpalatable: I think most folks >>> prioritize

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-04 Thread Steve Litt
Who, Edward, get down! Let me ship you one of my tinfoil hats so that I'm not the only one wearing one. SteveT On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 11:53:07 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Jaromil, > > In my opinion Debian are acting like a commercial entity: they want > their clients to get used to any 'ine

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 11:17:53 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > Are there alternatives for preventing packages to be installed? > > We need to decide if to incorporate this change also into Devuan. > > Many people will be negatively affected by yet another limitation of > their freedom, being now unable to

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Florian Zieboll writes: > Mitt Green wrote: > >> Starting from this version pinning >> (i.e. preventing from being installed) >> packages this way: >> --- >> Package: foo >> Pin: release * >> Pin-Priority: -1 >> --- >

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015, Florian Zieboll wrote: > Here's a link to the apt_preferences(5) from an apt v1.1.3 .deb: > > http://zwischenspeicher.info/temp/apt_preferences.5--v1.1.3.gz > > open with > # man /path/to/file.gz > > Seems there's no need to panic at all :-) I'm reliefed! thanks :^) we do

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Jaromil, Right now the only thing I can think of is a separate repository for those packages. Cheers, Aitor. On 02/12/15 12:08, Jaromil wrote: Are there alternatives for preventing packages to be installed? We need to decide if to incorporate this change also into Devuan. Many peopl

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:48:49 +0300 Mitt Green wrote: > Starting from this version pinning > (i.e. preventing from being installed) > packages this way: > --- > Package: foo > Pin: release * > Pin-Priority: -1 > --- >

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Mitt Green writes: [...] > Starting from this version pinning > (i.e. preventing from being installed) > packages this way: > --- > Package: foo > Pin: release * > Pin-Priority: -1 > --- > doesn't work anymore. Jud

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Franco Lanza
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 11:17:53AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > Are there alternatives for preventing packages to be installed? > > We need to decide if to incorporate this change also into Devuan. This is not an issue for devuan at all. Devuan doesn't rely on apt pinning anymore, we now have our

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 02/12/15 23:17, Jaromil wrote: > > On Wed, 02 Dec 2015, Mitt Green wrote: > >> Good day everyone, >> >> As some of you have probably >> noticed, Unstable had received >> their updates for APT, version 1.1. >> It had been in Experimental for long time >> and now it landed. >> >> Starting from

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
Jaromil, In my opinion Debian are acting like a commercial entity: they want their clients to get used to any 'inevitable changes' in their products. This can also be seen as another stab in the back to projects promoting software freedom like Devuan. My 'little' opinion if that counts. Edward

Re: [DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015, Mitt Green wrote: > Good day everyone,  > > As some of you have probably > noticed, Unstable had received > their updates for APT, version 1.1. > It had been in Experimental for long time > and now it landed. > > Starting from this version pinning > (i.e. preventing from be

[DNG] APT pinning no longer works

2015-12-02 Thread Mitt Green
Good day everyone,  As some of you have probably noticed, Unstable had received their updates for APT, version 1.1. It had been in Experimental for long time and now it landed. Starting from this version pinning (i.e. preventing from being installed) packages this way: ---