Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-13 Thread Peter Olson
> On November 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:23:22 -0500 > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > > On 11/12/15 1:54 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:57:19 +0300 > > > Mitt Green

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:20:42 -0500 (EST) Peter Olson wrote: > > On November 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM Steve Litt > > wrote: > > Proud or not, you don't want to assist the systemd marketeers in > > shutting down discussion about systemd's architecture, do

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:23:22 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > On 11/12/15 1:54 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:57:19 +0300 > > Mitt Green wrote: > > > > "Greybeards" and "neckbeards" are characterizations whose > >

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-13 Thread aitor_czr
I wish we had Daniel Baumann with us :) Aitor. On 11/12/2015 11:40 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I thought I should mention, before the towel is irretrievably lost, that you'd probably find a welcome in the devuan project. We tend to respect developers. I thnk you'd find a

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-13 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 13. November 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > Proud or not, you don't want to assist the systemd marketeers in > shutting down discussion about systemd's architecture, do you? Well, you could use "crunchy-granola" for systemd fanboy ;-) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
list. I've CC'd the devuan mailing list. Devuan is on its way to be the new upstream that is what Debian once was. --hendrik On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:50:27AM +, Go Linux wrote: > On Wed, 11/11/15, Wim <object...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: [DNG] An abrupt end to

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:57:19 +0300 > Mitt Green wrote: [...] > :s/greybeards/experienced people having a clue/ > > I'm not saying the following in anger. I'm simply saying it so we don't > accidentally shoot ourselves in the

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Edward Bartolo
When I am faced with a situation where people try to emotionally manipulate and distabilise others, one ugly question comes to my mind: 'As a species, have human beings really reached civility or are they still living with a different form of the rule of the jungle?' Edward On 13/11/2015, Miles

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Mitt Green
‎I wonder how many people that use Debian for quite long time (since 90s or the beginning of this millennium) really like systemd, GNOME3 and all these controversial things. I haven't met any. And even more, most "greybeards" that I've seen oppose it. Seems like they don't have a right to vote.

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Fernando M. Maresca
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:12:02PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > From the day I arrived in Debianland, around 1/1/2014, Debian seemed to > me to be, in the words of Lennart Poettering, "quite a sick place to be > in.". Before I'd heard about systemd, I'd already /dev/nulled about 8 > Debianistas

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:03:31 +0300 Mitt Green wrote: > I meant it in a good way if there is, like "most experienced, > mature, knows everything", not to insult someone. > > Veteran is a good word for it actually (-: I was pretty sure you did, Mitt. I just wanted to make

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Fernando M. Maresca
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 04:57:19PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > ‎I wonder how many people that use Debian for quite long time (since 90s or > the beginning of this millennium) really like systemd, GNOME3 > and all these controversial things. I haven't met any. And even more, > most "greybeards" that

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:57:19 +0300 Mitt Green wrote: > ‎I wonder how many people that use Debian for quite long time (since > 90s or the beginning of this millennium) really like systemd, GNOME3 > and all these controversial things. I haven't met any. And even more, > most

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-12 Thread Mitt Green
I meant it in a good way if there is, like "most experienced, mature, knows everything", not to insult someone. Veteran is a good word for it actually (-: ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
Reading some of the links left me about speechless. I seem to recall a time when Debian actions were open to all involved. The requests for clarification of the discussions supposedly leading to the creation of live-build-ng in bug 804315 went unanswered. Besides being heavy-handed and rude, it

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 03:34:37 +0100 Wim wrote: > Hi, > > > This popped up: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00024.html > > Another dev throws in the towel under pressure. The list of downstream > distro's is long... > > Cheers, > > Wim From the day I

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-11 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 12/11/15 16:26, Nate Bargmann wrote: Reading some of the links left me about speechless. I seem to recall a time when Debian actions were open to all involved. The requests for clarification of the discussions supposedly leading to the creation of live-build-ng in bug 804315 went

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-11 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 11/11/15, Wim <object...@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version? To: Dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 8:34 PM Hi, This popped up: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00024.html Another dev throws in the

[DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

2015-11-11 Thread Wim
Hi, This popped up: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00024.html Another dev throws in the towel under pressure. The list of downstream distro's is long... Cheers, Wim ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org