Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > It isn't a can of worms, it's just potentially confusing terminology if you > think that "AMD64" means you have to have a CPU made by AMD. 'x86_64' is irritating to type. Also, AMD deserves the credit, having shown the necessary leade

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:35:18AM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hi, > Crossgrading looks like a huge can of worms. The wiki page seems to imply > that systemd must be installed. If I wanted systemd I would have stayed on > Debian. To the contrary: systemd makes crossgrading impossible, if it's running.

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Fred
On 11/26/20 10:45 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:34:16 -0700 Fred wrote: On 11/25/20 4:56 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:07:24 -0700 Fred wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to run a progra

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Patrick Bartek via Dng
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:34:16 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 11/25/20 4:56 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:07:24 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried > >> to run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 05:46:48PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 26 November 2020 at 17:35:18, Fred wrote: > > > I installed arch-test which says i386. I am sure an AMD cpu will run > > x86 instructions but I don't see how a x86/i386 cpu will run the > > instructions that AMD presumabl

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 26 November 2020 at 17:35:18, Fred wrote: > I installed arch-test which says i386. I am sure an AMD cpu will run > x86 instructions but I don't see how a x86/i386 cpu will run the > instructions that AMD presumably added. i386 is a 32-bit standard. Any 64-bit CPU (from AMD or Intel,

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:35:18AM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hi, > Crossgrading looks like a huge can of worms. The wiki page seems to imply > that systemd must be installed. If I wanted systemd I would have stayed on > Debian. As of jessie, I believe that the Debian recomended way to install a nons

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Fred
On 11/25/20 7:12 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: On 26 Nov 2020, at 13:02, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote: I think Debian Jessie is 32 bit.  To upgrade to Beowulf I just followed instructions that didn't say anything about 32 or 64.  I just ass

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread terryc
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:07:24 -0700 Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to > run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage) which would not run. > ...snip > So, is Beowulf 32 bit or 64 bit? Further to the other answers, if you

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 01:12:01PM +1100, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > On 26 Nov 2020, at 13:02, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote: ^^ Unrelated: Gregory, please fix your mail client to not insert invalid control characters. > >> I think D

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 26 Nov 2020, at 13:02, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote: >> I think Debian Jessie is 32 bit. To upgrade to Beowulf I just followed >> instructions that didn't say anything about 32 or 64. I just assumed >> Beowulf was 64 bit. > > Debian jess

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:34:16PM -0700, Fred wrote: > I think Debian Jessie is 32 bit. To upgrade to Beowulf I just followed > instructions that didn't say anything about 32 or 64. I just assumed > Beowulf was 64 bit. Debian jessie was available in i386 and amd64 as far as I recall. > > My C

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread Fred
On 11/25/20 4:56 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:07:24 -0700 Fred wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage) which would not run. bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot ex

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread Patrick Bartek via Dng
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:07:24 -0700 Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to > run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage) which would not run. > > bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: > Exec format error >

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread kdibble
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:07:19 -0800 Fred wrote >Hello, >I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to >run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage) which would not run. >bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec >format error

[DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-25 Thread Fred
Hello, I recently upgraded from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf. I tried to run a program (ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage) which would not run. bash: ./ClipGrab-3.9.2-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error I asked for help on the Debian user mail list (because of pr