Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:29:06 +0100, Wim wrote in message

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

A lot of what you say sums up my feelings about systemd and microsoft. When these things had happened what was of the gnu/linux community practically all rejected anything that smells like microsoft, and it was necessary to do that imo (just as some zeal is necessary now for other inits to

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:08:19PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > KatolaZ wrote: > > > Well, not everybody pays his bills developing open source software, > > but if I were a Debian developer, who had adhered to the debian Social > > Contract [1], I would find it difficult to

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

KatolaZ wrote: > Well, not everybody pays his bills developing open source software, > but if I were a Debian developer, who had adhered to the debian Social > Contract [1], I would find it difficult to organise a fest to > celebrate Microsoft offering Debian as an option

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On 2016-01-21 09:32, KatolaZ wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:08:19PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: KatolaZ wrote: > Well, not everybody pays his bills developing open source software, > but if I were a Debian developer, who had adhered to the debian Social > Contract [1],

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:08 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: > KatolaZ wrote: > > Whether supporting Debian on Azure is just logical, or there's an ulterior > motive, it's happened and we don't know which reason it is. What I am sure > about

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:12:08AM +, Simon Hobson wrote: [cut] > > > I have to say that some of what I see written on this list plays right into > the "bunch of hippies with an axe to grind" stereotype some people like to > bash GNU/Linux/FOSS with. > I realise some people have strong

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

Le 20/01/2016 23:25, dev1fanboy a écrit : Not surprising. They already threw a party for Debian 8 (not debian in general, but debian 8). http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/ The ethical break down is enough of a reason for them to throw a party imho. On

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

Didier Kryn wrote: >It's absolutely amazing that one can be a Debian developper and a member > of Microsoft in the same time. Yes, that's an ethical break down of the whole > Debian project. I think some people are reading more into this than they should. There is no reason

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

dev1fanboy wrote: > So for having our own values we are a "hardcore cult", how dare we voice our > opinions or stand up for our values (like anyone else in the free software > community, btw). Better yet, let's go back to debian because otherwise we're > elitists.

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

Simon Hobson writes: > dev1fanboy wrote: > >> So for having our own values we are a "hardcore cult", how dare we >> voice our opinions or stand up for our values (like anyone else in >> the free software community, btw). Better yet, let's go

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

Le 21/01/2016 13:08, Simon Hobson a écrit : What if we s/Microsoft/Rackspace/ (you can use pretty well any hosting outfit really) The basic underlying thing that this announcement shows is that ${company} now supports ${OS} on it's hosting platform. Yes, the sole reason they are doing it where

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

As long as this made some impact, I'd like to point out that, in my opinion, 'tis not bad when particular people work in particular companies, while having a part time job in other projects. Linux, GNU and their childer should not be affiliated with companies such as Microsoft. Microsoft has

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On 21/01/16 08:21 AM, Marlon Nunes wrote: On 2016-01-21 09:32, KatolaZ wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:08:19PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: KatolaZ wrote: > Well, not everybody pays his bills developing open source software, > but if I were a Debian developer, who had

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:46:55 +0100, Didier wrote in message <56a0ef5f.3050...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 21/01/2016 13:08, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > What if we s/Microsoft/Rackspace/ > > (you can use pretty well any hosting outfit really) > > The basic underlying thing that this announcement shows is that

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

Hi List, ... Follow the money... Maybe this is related too? http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html The Linux Foundation quietly dropped community representation. No more voting rights for simple members. Looks like a coup to me. And that begs the question: "Who is Karen Sandler?"

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:08:19 + Simon Hobson wrote: > reading this list is like being at an evangelical meeting of some > hardcore cult - and that *IS* very off-putting to a large number of > people. Both clauses of the preceding partial sentence are absolutely true.

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 14:41:40 + Simon Hobson wrote: > dev1fanboy wrote: > > > So for having our own values we are a "hardcore cult", how dare we > > voice our opinions or stand up for our values (like anyone else in > > the free software

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

Not surprising. They already threw a party for Debian 8 (not debian in general, but debian 8). http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/ The ethical break down is enough of a reason for them to throw a party imho. On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:19 PM, Mitt

[DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-on-azure/ Debian will be offered as an endorsed operating system in Azure Marketplace. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng