Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On 6/15/20 3:37 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on >> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. >> Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5. > > If the system ran cool before the upgrade, thermal paste shouldn't be > the problem. What happens if you run with a 5.x kernel from > beowulf-backports, for instance > linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned? With either of these: linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64-unsigned I can log into an XFCE4 session just in time for the fans to spin up and the machine lock. With an even older kernel, I get about 50.0°C more or less. $ uname -sr Linux 4.19.0-8-rt-amd64 $ sensors coretemp-isa- Adapter: ISA adapter Package id 0: +51.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 0:+49.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 1:+48.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 2:+49.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 3:+49.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 4:+49.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 5:+48.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) acpitz-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface temp1:+51.0°C (crit = +120.0°C) iwlwifi-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+55.0°C pch_cannonlake-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+58.0°C ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote: > Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on > your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. > Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5. If the system ran cool before the upgrade, thermal paste shouldn't be the problem. What happens if you run with a 5.x kernel from beowulf-backports, for instance linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned? Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On 14-06-2020 14:14, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice > that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about > 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or > hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be > looking at to make corrections? > > - > > $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr > PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)" > Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64 > > You can try to add intel_pstate=disable to your startup line. >>> Thanks. It may already be disabled¹ though: >>> >>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable >>> 0 >>> >>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable >>> 0 >>> >>> However, this is all an area I know nothing about. >>> >>> ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html >>> ___ >> It is not my daily job either but what i understand when intel_pstate is >> disabled acpi-cpufreq takes it over. (And most likely did in ASCII.) >> >> Give it a try and if it works add it to grub. >> > Seems to have made a difference of over 20°C. > > > /Lars Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5. Grtz. Nick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >>> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be looking at to make corrections? - $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)" Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64 >>> You can try to add intel_pstate=disable to your startup line. >> Thanks. It may already be disabled¹ though: >> >> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable >> 0 >> >> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable >> 0 >> >> However, this is all an area I know nothing about. >> >> ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html >> ___ > > It is not my daily job either but what i understand when intel_pstate is > disabled acpi-cpufreq takes it over. (And most likely did in ASCII.) > > Give it a try and if it works add it to grub. > Seems to have made a difference of over 20°C. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >>> that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about >>> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or >>> hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be >>> looking at to make corrections? >>> >>> - >>> >>> $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr >>> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)" >>> Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64 >>> >>> >> You can try to add intel_pstate=disable to your startup line. > Thanks. It may already be disabled¹ though: > > # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable > 0 > > # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable > 0 > > However, this is all an area I know nothing about. > > ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html > ___ It is not my daily job either but what i understand when intel_pstate is disabled acpi-cpufreq takes it over. (And most likely did in ASCII.) Give it a try and if it works add it to grub. Grtz. Nick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >> that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about >> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or >> hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be >> looking at to make corrections? >> >> - >> >> $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr >> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)" >> Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64 >> >> > You can try to add intel_pstate=disable to your startup line. Thanks. It may already be disabled¹ though: # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable 0 # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable 0 However, this is all an area I know nothing about. ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice > that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about > 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or > hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be > looking at to make corrections? > > - > > $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr > PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)" > Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64 > > You can try to add intel_pstate=disable to your startup line. Grtz. Nick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan 3 running hot
An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be looking at to make corrections? - $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)" Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64 - coretemp-isa- Adapter: ISA adapter Package id 0: +75.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 0:+75.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 1:+70.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 2:+70.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 3:+70.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 4:+69.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 5:+70.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) acpitz-acpi-0 Adapter: ACPI interface temp1:+73.0°C (crit = +120.0°C) iwlwifi_1-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+44.0°C pch_cannonlake-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+60.0°C - top - 13:32:45 up 21:00, 11 users, load average: 0.90, 0.97, 0.99 Tasks: 309 total, 1 running, 308 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 0.1 us, 0.4 sy, 0.0 ni, 99.5 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 15752.8 total, 6909.7 free, 2698.7 used, 6144.4 buff/cache MiB Swap: 15743.0 total, 15742.6 free, 0.4 used. 12197.7 avail Mem PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2529 root 20 0 493780 133052 98824 S 4.7 0.8 21:21.22 Xorg 291 root -51 19 0 0 0 D 3.7 0.0 20:10.16 irq/144-SYNA120 2839 lars 20 0 520740 50288 33980 S 1.0 0.3 0:22.16 xfce4-terminal 29662 root 20 0 12236 3020 2400 R 0.3 0.0 0:13.18 top 1 root 20 07904 2064 1892 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.10 init 2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 kthreadd 3 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_gp ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng