Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-15 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/15/20 3:37 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote:
>> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on
>> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste.
>> Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5.
> 
> If the system ran cool before the upgrade, thermal paste shouldn't be
> the problem. What happens if you run with a 5.x kernel from
> beowulf-backports, for instance
> linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned?

With either of these:

linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned
linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64-unsigned

I can log into an XFCE4 session just in time for the fans to spin up and
the machine lock.

With an even older kernel, I get about 50.0°C more or less.

$ uname -sr
Linux 4.19.0-8-rt-amd64

$ sensors
coretemp-isa-
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +51.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:+49.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:+48.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:+49.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:+49.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:+49.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5:+48.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1:+51.0°C  (crit = +120.0°C)

iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:+55.0°C

pch_cannonlake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:+58.0°C










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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on
> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste.
> Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5.

If the system ran cool before the upgrade, thermal paste shouldn't be
the problem. What happens if you run with a 5.x kernel from
beowulf-backports, for instance
linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned?

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-06-2020 14:14, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
> On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
>> On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
>>> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
 On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice
> that the fans are always running.  Although the air temperature is about
> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or
> hotter.  The system is not really under any load.  What should I be
> looking at to make corrections?
>
> -
>
> $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr
> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)"
> Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64
>
>
 You can try to add  intel_pstate=disable to your startup line.
>>> Thanks.  It may already be disabled¹ though:
>>>
>>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable
>>> 0
>>>
>>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable
>>> 0
>>>
>>> However, this is all an area I know nothing about.
>>>
>>> ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html
>>> ___
>> It is not my daily job either but what i understand when intel_pstate is
>> disabled acpi-cpufreq takes it over. (And most likely did in ASCII.)
>>
>> Give it a try and if it works add it to grub.
>>
> Seems to have made a difference of over 20°C.
>
>
> /Lars

Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on
your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste.
Made a difference of another 20°C on idle on my old i5.

Grtz.

Nick




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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
>> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
>>> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
 An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice
 that the fans are always running.  Although the air temperature is about
 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or
 hotter.  The system is not really under any load.  What should I be
 looking at to make corrections?

 -

 $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr
 PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)"
 Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64


>>> You can try to add  intel_pstate=disable to your startup line.
>> Thanks.  It may already be disabled¹ though:
>>
>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable
>> 0
>>
>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable
>> 0
>>
>> However, this is all an area I know nothing about.
>>
>> ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html
>> ___
> 
> It is not my daily job either but what i understand when intel_pstate is
> disabled acpi-cpufreq takes it over. (And most likely did in ASCII.)
> 
> Give it a try and if it works add it to grub.
>

Seems to have made a difference of over 20°C.


/Lars
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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
>> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
>>> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice
>>> that the fans are always running.  Although the air temperature is about
>>> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or
>>> hotter.  The system is not really under any load.  What should I be
>>> looking at to make corrections?
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr
>>> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)"
>>> Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64
>>>
>>>
>> You can try to add  intel_pstate=disable to your startup line.
> Thanks.  It may already be disabled¹ though:
>
> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable
> 0
>
> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable
> 0
>
> However, this is all an area I know nothing about.
>
> ¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html
> ___

It is not my daily job either but what i understand when intel_pstate is
disabled acpi-cpufreq takes it over. (And most likely did in ASCII.)

Give it a try and if it works add it to grub.


Grtz.


Nick




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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
>> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice
>> that the fans are always running.  Although the air temperature is about
>> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or
>> hotter.  The system is not really under any load.  What should I be
>> looking at to make corrections?
>>
>> -
>>
>> $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr
>> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)"
>> Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64
>>
>>
> You can try to add  intel_pstate=disable to your startup line.

Thanks.  It may already be disabled¹ though:

# cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/pstate_sample/enable
0

# cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/enable
0

However, this is all an area I know nothing about.

¹ https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html
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Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice
> that the fans are always running.  Although the air temperature is about
> 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or
> hotter.  The system is not really under any load.  What should I be
> looking at to make corrections?
>
> -
>
> $ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr
> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)"
> Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64
>
>
You can try to add  intel_pstate=disable to your startup line.

Grtz.


Nick





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[DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice
that the fans are always running.  Although the air temperature is about
25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or
hotter.  The system is not really under any load.  What should I be
looking at to make corrections?

-

$ grep -i pretty /etc/os-release ; uname -sr
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)"
Linux 4.19.0-9-amd64


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coretemp-isa-
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +75.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:+75.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:+70.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:+70.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:+70.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:+69.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5:+70.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1:+73.0°C  (crit = +120.0°C)

iwlwifi_1-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:+44.0°C

pch_cannonlake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:+60.0°C

-

top - 13:32:45 up 21:00, 11 users,  load average: 0.90, 0.97, 0.99
Tasks: 309 total,   1 running, 308 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.1 us,  0.4 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.5 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,
0.0 st
MiB Mem :  15752.8 total,   6909.7 free,   2698.7 used,   6144.4 buff/cache
MiB Swap:  15743.0 total,  15742.6 free,  0.4 used.  12197.7 avail Mem

  PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+
COMMAND

 2529 root  20   0  493780 133052  98824 S   4.7   0.8  21:21.22
Xorg

  291 root -51  19   0  0  0 D   3.7   0.0  20:10.16
irq/144-SYNA120

 2839 lars  20   0  520740  50288  33980 S   1.0   0.3   0:22.16
xfce4-terminal

29662 root  20   0   12236   3020   2400 R   0.3   0.0   0:13.18 top


1 root  20   07904   2064   1892 S   0.0   0.0   0:02.10
init

2 root  20   0   0  0  0 S   0.0   0.0   0:00.04
kthreadd

3 root   0 -20   0  0  0 I   0.0   0.0   0:00.00
rcu_gp
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