Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? Devuan is Debian without systemd. Check with the Debian people. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
My five cents — FBReader, very flexible reader with CSS support and customizable appearance. On Wed, May 26, 2021, 01:10 Antoine via Dng wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 May at 14:01, Steve Litt wrote: > >terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000 > > > >>On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + > >>g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> > >>> I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware > >>> performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily > >>> knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > >> > >>Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? > >>Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. > > > >Or, if you're like me and have banned all KDE software from your > >computer, install callibre, which comes with a nice eBook reader. > > > >SteveT > > Mupdf is lightweight and can read several e-book formats (not only PDF). > > - Antoine > > -- > You are listening to a machine. > Do the world a favour and don't act like one. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Tuesday, 25 May at 14:01, Steve Litt wrote: terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000 On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. Or, if you're like me and have banned all KDE software from your computer, install callibre, which comes with a nice eBook reader. SteveT Mupdf is lightweight and can read several e-book formats (not only PDF). - Antoine -- You are listening to a machine. Do the world a favour and don't act like one. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
terryc said on Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000 >On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + >g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware >> performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily >> knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. > > >> >> >> Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > >Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? >Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. Or, if you're like me and have banned all KDE software from your computer, install callibre, which comes with a nice eBook reader. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:42:37AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Tuesday 25 May 2021 at 05:25:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > > > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, > > > I would say: > > > > > > a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available > > > > > > b) very disappointing even if you manage, given the performance of eBook > > > reader CPUs, and especially eInk displays > > > > Yes, but if he does manage, he should be able to program an ebook rader > > that does what he wants instead of what the Chinese copany wants. > > > > > c) very inconvenient, assuming it's a device with a touch screen and no > > > Bluetooth or USB OTG mode (which would have enabled you to connect an > > > external mouse and/or keyboard). > > > > Early ebook readers from Kobo used a Linux kernel, and could be booted > > from an inserted SD card (they had a slot for this). > > Indeed - I have several Tolino readers which have the same design. Later > ones > (especially the water-resistant models) have no SD card slot (either internal > or external) and simply have firmware installed on soldered flash chips. > > > Booting from inserted SD card was also how they did upgrades. Someone > > managed to write a simple game for it, after heavy reverse engineering. > > Upgrades can also be done either by inserting an SD card with a correctly- > named file into the external card slot (where one exists), or by writing the > correctly-named file to internal storage using the USB cable (just as a mass- > storage device, no ADB needed) and then restarting the device. > > > As far as I know no documentation was ever made available for those who > > wished to program the thing; in particular, there ws no documebtation > > for the screen and touch drivers. > > > > I have seen no such bootable slot in any of the current Kobo ebook > > readers. > > There is documentation (some in English, some in German) on how to install a > standard app launcher on these devices so that you can make full use of the > native Android system (normally that's inaccessible, and only one app can be > used; the e-reader app). I have a Tolino Epos 1 which I've done this with, > for example, and it's quite a nice monochrome / greyscale Android "tablet" so > long as you accept that it is quite slow, the display is very slow, it has no > sound and no Bluetooth. For many applications these limitations do not > matter. I guess what I really want is something like a laptop that can be used effectively in bright sunlight, and still has interoperability and connectivity with the Linux ecosystem I currently use. It doesn't have to have the *same* software; it merely needs to interoperate with systems that do. Android won't even talk sshfs. -- hendrik > > > Regards, > > > Antony. > > -- > You can tell that the day just isn't going right when you find yourself using > the telephone before the toilet. > >Please reply to the list; > please *don't* CC me. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
Some years ago there was a pretty decent Linux distribution for ebook readers, called Open Inkpot. It was around 2010 and I'm almost certain that it didn't include Systemd, nor any spyware. The choice of hardware was pretty limited at that time, though. On Mon, May 24, 2021, 23:25 g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs > which is then sent to Chinese servers. > I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent > solution. > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Tuesday 25 May 2021 at 05:25:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, > > I would say: > > > > a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available > > > > b) very disappointing even if you manage, given the performance of eBook > > reader CPUs, and especially eInk displays > > Yes, but if he does manage, he should be able to program an ebook rader > that does what he wants instead of what the Chinese copany wants. > > > c) very inconvenient, assuming it's a device with a touch screen and no > > Bluetooth or USB OTG mode (which would have enabled you to connect an > > external mouse and/or keyboard). > > Early ebook readers from Kobo used a Linux kernel, and could be booted > from an inserted SD card (they had a slot for this). Indeed - I have several Tolino readers which have the same design. Later ones (especially the water-resistant models) have no SD card slot (either internal or external) and simply have firmware installed on soldered flash chips. > Booting from inserted SD card was also how they did upgrades. Someone > managed to write a simple game for it, after heavy reverse engineering. Upgrades can also be done either by inserting an SD card with a correctly- named file into the external card slot (where one exists), or by writing the correctly-named file to internal storage using the USB cable (just as a mass- storage device, no ADB needed) and then restarting the device. > As far as I know no documentation was ever made available for those who > wished to program the thing; in particular, there ws no documebtation > for the screen and touch drivers. > > I have seen no such bootable slot in any of the current Kobo ebook > readers. There is documentation (some in English, some in German) on how to install a standard app launcher on these devices so that you can make full use of the native Android system (normally that's inaccessible, and only one app can be used; the e-reader app). I have a Tolino Epos 1 which I've done this with, for example, and it's quite a nice monochrome / greyscale Android "tablet" so long as you accept that it is quite slow, the display is very slow, it has no sound and no Bluetooth. For many applications these limitations do not matter. Regards, Antony. -- You can tell that the day just isn't going right when you find yourself using the telephone before the toilet. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs > > which is then sent to Chinese servers. > > Sorry, but what are you talking about? > > > I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent > > solution. > > Firewalls can work both ways :) > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > > I really think you need to tell us what hardware you're referring to. > > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, I > would say: > > a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available > > b) very disappointing even if you manage, given the performance of eBook > reader CPUs, and especially eInk displays Yes, but if he does manage, he should be able to program an ebook rader that does what he wants instead of what the Chinese copany wants. > > c) very inconvenient, assuming it's a device with a touch screen and no > Bluetooth or USB OTG mode (which would have enabled you to connect an > external > mouse and/or keyboard). Early ebook readers from Kobo used a Linux kernel, and could be booted from an inserted SD card (they had a slot for this). Booting from inserted SD card was also how they did upgrades. Someone managed to write a simple game for it, after heavy reverse engineering. As far as I know no documentation was ever made available for those who wished to program the thing; in particular, there ws no documebtation for the screen and touch drivers. I have seen no such bootable slot in any of the current Kobo ebook readers. > > There are, of course, many eBook readers running Android, but that's a far > cry > from a full GNU / Linux setup. > > > Antony. > > -- > "The problem with television is that the people must sit and keep their eyes > glued on a screen; the average American family hasn't time for it." > > - New York Times, following a demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair. > >Please reply to the list; > please *don't* CC me. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Tue, 25 May 2021 08:35:12 +1000, terryc wrote in message <20210525083512.4f6a1...@dragonfly.woa.com.au>: > On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + > g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware > > performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily > > knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. > > > > > > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? > > Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? > Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. ..and if you don't like okular, find alternatives with e.g. "man -k e-book" or "man -k ebook" or "apt-cache search e-book", and find the details on each with e.g. "apt-cache show okular". -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware > performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily > knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. > > > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? Er, read an e-book on Devuan(jessie, ascii, beowulf and chamaera?)? Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs > which is then sent to Chinese servers. Sorry, but what are you talking about? > I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent > solution. Firewalls can work both ways :) > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? I really think you need to tell us what hardware you're referring to. As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, I would say: a) very unlikely, given the storage capacity typically available b) very disappointing even if you manage, given the performance of eBook reader CPUs, and especially eInk displays c) very inconvenient, assuming it's a device with a touch screen and no Bluetooth or USB OTG mode (which would have enabled you to connect an external mouse and/or keyboard). There are, of course, many eBook readers running Android, but that's a far cry from a full GNU / Linux setup. Antony. -- "The problem with television is that the people must sit and keep their eyes glued on a screen; the average American family hasn't time for it." - New York Times, following a demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan eBook Reader
I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
