Re: [DNG] Diff between backports and proposed upgrades

2021-05-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Ludovic, list,

Just some minor nitpicks and additions.

Ludovic Bellière writes:

> Hello terry,
>
> The packages present in the backports channel comes from the next
> unstable (bullseye/chimaera).

Unstable is sid/ceres, always.
The *next* stable release, bullseye/chimaera is currently known as
testing.

Packages in backports may (have) come from unstable or testing at some
point in time but are rebuilt against stable.

This prevents a scenario where a newer version from unstable or testing
would require upgrading of a lot of dependent packages, e.g. libraries,
and pretty much force you to upgrade a fairly large part of your system
to unstable or testing.

> Where as the proposed-updates (and **not** upgrades) are the packages
> who are being prepared for the next stable point release. It is
> debian's review process to make sure nothing breaks.

Correct but there is no upgrades.  I think you meant updates which is
for non-security updates that should go in ASAP and cannot really wait
for the next point release.  For details and examples, see

 
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#special-case-the-stable-updates-suite

This used to be called volatile.

> Cheers,

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] Diff between backports and proposed upgrades

2021-05-07 Thread Ludovic Bellière
Hello terry,

The packages present in the backports channel comes from the next
unstable (bullseye/chimaera). Where as the proposed-updates (and **not**
upgrades) are the packages who are being prepared for the next stable
point release. It is debian's review process to make sure nothing
breaks.

Cheers,
Ludovic

On sam, 08 mai 2021, terryc wrote:

> On Sat, 8 May 2021 00:13:11 -0300
> Gastón via Dng  wrote:
> 
> What is the difference between beowulf-backports and
> beowulf-proposed-upgrades?
> 


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[DNG] Diff between backports and proposed upgrades

2021-05-07 Thread terryc
On Sat, 8 May 2021 00:13:11 -0300
Gastón via Dng  wrote:

> On Sat, May 08, 2021 at 10:20:23AM +0800, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote:

> > Is there a better way to be able to install the required packages
> > without having to individually name each one and the version?  
> 
> yes, you can try to do it like this:
> 
> apt-get install exim4 -t beowulf-proposed-updates

What is the difference between beowulf-backports and
beowulf-proposed-upgrades?

Of my three recent installations of beowulf-3.1 I noticed after
selecting online mirroring (deb.devuan.org), the first two included 
beowulf-backports and the third included beowulf-proposed-updates
in .etc/apt/sources.list.

As proposed updates produced a long list of packages problems, I
swapped to backports.

FIIW, if you want to pulled in all the latest(?) of your packages, a
sudo apt-get -t beowulf-backports upgrade will pull them all in.

Tip, check the list for any old stuff you no longer need and sudo
apt-get purge old-package.


 
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