Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 21:26:45 + Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:53:48 -0800 > Rick Moen wrote: > > > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > > > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop. > > > > Seriously? I merely asked you, while

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-dev...@yosemite.net): > I've got a test message trying to go to Rowland and it's running > into the same problem at samba.org. *chuckle* Don't mind me. I'm just enjoying this timely visit from the Irony Fairy. I'd be very surprised if Dng has the bounce processing

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

On Fri January 4 2019 13:33:57 marc wrote: > Also: This isn't strictly a problem, but the highest priority > mail handler for samba.org doesn't seem to be running a mail server > at the moment: > > samba.org. 7200IN MX 5 ns1.samba.org. > samba.org. 7200

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting marc (marc...@welz.org.za): > I see that smtp.samba.org seems to run exim - are the others > experiencing bounces and disabled subscriptions also running exim ? [Just so Dyne.org volunteers needn't explore that:] Exim runs SMTP on my linuxmafia.org host: No pattern of bounces, no

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

On Fri January 4 2019 13:31:59 Rick Moen wrote: > As I've mentioned upthread, I am a (friendly) _outsider_ to Dyne.org, who > runs and administers Mailman and MTAs elsewhere -- and as such have no > access to Dyne's MTA and MLM logs (nor samba.org's MTA logs). The best > help I could think of to

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

> Yes, I am totally aware of the above, but, as there is absolutely no > reason for the dng mails sent to me being bounced and that others have > had this happen to them, I feel the problem could be at the dng end. Maybe it is emergent (heh!) problem requiring a particular combination of sending

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-dev...@yosemite.net): > I've been running mail servers and mailing lists for more than two > decades. > > Rick if you can give Rowland specific times (+timezone) of some > bounces that would assist Rowland's admins in finding the actual > reason for the bounces in his mail

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:53:48 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop. > > Seriously? I merely asked you, while thanking you for your work on > Samba, to please say hullo to three of my friends

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

I've been running mail servers and mailing lists for more than two decades. Rick if you can give Rowland specific times (+timezone) of some bounces that would assist Rowland's admins in finding the actual reason for the bounces in his mail server's logs. --Mike

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop. Seriously? I merely asked you, while thanking you for your work on Samba, to please say hullo to three of my friends and sometime co-workers, as they are on the Samba Team with you.

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:56:29 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Correcting mistype: > > > Please, let's work through the scenario. You as rpe...@samba.org > > subscribe to dng@lists.dyne.org. Hypothetically for purposes of > > discussion, for some reason the samba.org SMTP host occasionally > > does

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Correcting mistype: > Please, let's work through the scenario. You as rpe...@samba.org > subscribe to dng@lists.dyne.org. Hypothetically for purposes of > discussion, for some reason the samba.org SMTP host occasionally > does either SMTP error code 45x tempfail or 45x hardfail of subscriber

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > Because, if the mails were bouncing, someone would get the bounce > reports and tell me. I get bounce reports for the samba and > samba-technical mailing lists (I am one of the moderators), so I know > what they look like. Please, let's work

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 04:21:28 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > > It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled > > due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I > > would have told by one of the Samba team

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled due to > excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I would have > told by one of the Samba team list moderators.

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

I wrote: > dyne.org system administrators can investigate this matter, by > examining the /var/lib/mailman/logs/bounce* log files and > corresponding MTA log entries on lists.dyne.org -- to see when and why > and when the bounce scores for your Dng membership for rpe...@samba.org > has

Re: [DNG] excessive bounces

Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled > due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I would > have told by one of the Samba team list moderators. dyne.org system administrators can investigate

[DNG] excessive bounces

It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I would have told by one of the Samba team list moderators. Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

I too get 'em on my gmail account once in a while and have to confirm my subscription. It happens once every 2 months or so, therefore in my case I would not consider it excessive. (-; Clarke ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

On 29/10/2018 02:40, Linux O'Beardly wrote: Hey all, Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not having any issues with any of my other mailing lists. Happened to me too. Bye!

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 09:40:57PM -0400, Linux O'Beardly wrote: > Hey all, > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors from > the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not having any > issues with any of my other mailing lists. > > -- > Linux

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

I don't know if it's related, but I noticed that some emails aren't getting put in the lists.dyne.org mailing list archives. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:44:43 +, Rowland wrote in message <20181029094443.146cb...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100 > Harald Arnesen wrote: > > > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > > > > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors > > from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not > > having any issues with any of my other mailing

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors > from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not > having any issues with any of my other mailing lists. Yes, same here. -- Hilsen Harald

[DNG] Excessive Bounces

Hey all, Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not having any issues with any of my other mailing lists. -- Linux O'Beardly @LinuxOBeardly http://o.beard.ly linux.obear...@gmail.com

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Daniel, again, thank you for your efforts to collect diagnostic data for the Devuan Project, and for your care and precision. I respect the reasons you're making DMARC work for your domain, and certainly have no argument with you doing so (though I do not come to the same conclusion for my own

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > SPF breaks mailing lists and mail forwarders - and this is NOT (IMO) > fixable without introducing a wide open front gate for spammers to > ride through and completely bypass SPF. No. it does not break mailing lists. It _does_ break other common

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

For what it's worth, SPF, DKIM and DMARC were developed by largely different sets of people, who disagreed without each other about what was acceptable tradeoffs, what was doable and more. The "they" you mention act senselessly because it is not one set of people. Patching up email against

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Narcis Garcia wrote: > 1. SPF is a friendlier solution and enough for this. SPF breaks mailing lists and mail forwarders - and this is NOT (IMO) fixable without introducing a wide open front gate for spammers to ride through and completely bypass SPF. So consider that

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

1. SPF is a friendlier solution and enough for this. 3. GPG signatures is more standard and friendlier solution for this. This kind of tricky solutions (as DKIM) only make people to move to other easier but non-neutral technologies, hosted services such as WhatsApp or web-based. El 03/08/17 a

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Quoting Daniel Abrecht (d...@danielabrecht.ch): > I'm sorry, I'm using DMARC, and I didn't get the DMARC report about the > bounced mails, probably because I forgot a DMARC DNS entry for the > report receiving mail address. I have changed my DMARC policy from > reject to quarantine for now. It

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

I'm sorry, I'm using DMARC, and I didn't get the DMARC report about the bounced mails, probably because I forgot a DMARC DNS entry for the report receiving mail address. I have changed my DMARC policy from reject to quarantine for now. That said, I won't remove the DMARC record completely, and I

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Oh, follow-up (and this, too, is for Devuan's listadmins' attention in particular): > There is an (IMO unhappy but least-bad-available) kludge setting in > Mailman's admin WebUI to make the MLM compensate for DMARC brain-damage: > You go to Privacy Options, Sender Filters, item 'Action to take

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > That's the important thing to look for - and my money is it's related to SPF > and/or DMARC. It won't be SPF. My domain has a strong SPF policy: :r! dig -t txt linuxmafia.com +short "v=spf1 a mx -all" ...and no mailing list post from me or my

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > I am a bit puzzled about this one, we had some reports of the problem > so far, which hasn't occurred before on any other dyne list and is not > really reproducible. > > what we notice is that our mail server is under some quite heavy load > and we are

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 16:21:34 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20170802142134.vlfhg5z4ccbrueb7@reflex>: > On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote: > > >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me: ..I have this happening all the time, 3 times in July now, on the 4th,

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

On 02-08-17 16:41, Simon Hobson wrote: Antony Stone wrote: Is it possible to check the mail server logs for delivery failures on the problematic addresses (which is presumably what the warning email means by "bounces") to see what reason was given by the

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Antony Stone wrote: > Is it possible to check the mail server logs for delivery failures on the > problematic addresses (which is presumably what the warning email means by > "bounces") to see what reason was given by the receiving server? That's the

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

Thanks Jaromil, This time happened while I was out, but next time I will report it right away. Cheers, Emiliano. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote: > > >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

On Wednesday 02 August 2017 at 16:21:34, Jaromil wrote: > On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote: > >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me: > > > >"Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to > >excessive bounces The last bounce

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote: >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me: > >"Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to >excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated >23-Jul-2017." > >I have a Gmail

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 10:20 -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote: > Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me: > > "Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to > excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated > 23-Jul-2017." > > I have a Gmail

[DNG] Excessive bounces

Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me: "Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 23-Jul-2017." I have a Gmail account, it's Google's fault? or maybe some issue with Mailman? Cheers,

[DNG] excessive bounces nuissance - was Re: Testing - Please ignore and delete this email

Mine also does this, constantly, and annoyingly. And many messages don't show properly in thread view because many in between are missing, so thunderbird can't join them in a tree view, which is mostly what annoys me. I had this email address on many lists before without an issue, but I assumed it