Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:29:05PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 2020 17:51:20 +0200 > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Le 26/05/2020 à 10:26, Steve Litt a écrit : > > > On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 > > > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > > > >> On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 26 May 2020 17:51:20 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 26/05/2020 à 10:26, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 > > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > >> On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > Thanks for pointing out Shepherd. > > >     +1. > >     Questions and

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-05-26 17:51, Didier Kryn wrote: > Did it exist prior to the creation of Systemd? I think it depends on how you count. There was a predecessor project called dmd which was created to be PID 1 on Hurd. If you count dmd then it precedes systemd, otherwise not. -- Ian

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 26/05/2020 à 10:26, Steve Litt a écrit : > On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> * Busybox init >>> * Epoch >>> * OpenRC >>> * Runit >>> * s6 (plus s6-rc) >>> * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] >>> * systemd >>>

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread golinux
On 2020-05-26 03:26, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > * Busybox init > * Epoch > * OpenRC > * Runit > * s6 (plus s6-rc) > * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] > * systemd > * sysvinit * GNU Shepherd

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > > * Busybox init > > * Epoch > > * OpenRC > > * Runit > > * s6 (plus s6-rc) > > * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] > > * systemd > > * sysvinit > > * GNU Shepherd ? > >

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > * Busybox init > * Epoch > * OpenRC > * Runit > * s6 (plus s6-rc) > * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] > * systemd > * sysvinit * GNU Shepherd ? https://www.gnu.org/software/shepherd/ -- Ian ___

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-22 Thread Peter Duffy
(Apologies for restating that - I thought that my original mention of it hadn't made the list for some reason. I now see that it did.) On Fri, 2020-05-22 at 10:19 +0100, Peter Duffy wrote: > (There's a brilliant moment in "The Taking of Pelham 123" ...

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-22 Thread Peter Duffy
I know about uselessd - I suspect that it was reading about it that planted the seed for the "init-wrapper" idea - that of limiting systemd's power without systemd even being aware that it was being limited. I've not got far in thinking this through in terms of details - I assumed that it would

[DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 21 May 2020 10:59:15 +0100 Peter Duffy wrote: > I think that the thing that I found tantalising was the idea of > sniffing what systemd tried to do, and then deciding whether or not > to do it, Many have tried this. Web search "uselessd". But your suggestion becomes much more