Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-07 Thread Fernando M. Maresca
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 11:34:56PM +0100, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Good evening, > > 2016-01-04 21:43 GMT+01:00, Rainer Weikusat : > > k...@aspodata.se writes: > >> chaosesquet...@cock.li: > >>> I don't understand the desire to change it at all. > >> > >> And

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-06 Thread karl
Teodoro Santoni: ... > I'm asking if someone use PAMs daily, because I suspect that I can > answer "patch any kind of strange permission code away, everywhere" > to the "how can I waste my time and work happily with Linux OSes > installed on my pc without any trace of systemd code but have cups >

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-06 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Good afternoon, 2016-01-06 10:09 GMT+01:00, k...@aspodata.se : > More like, how can I avoid things that people with good intentions push > on me so I have to waste my time and work to work around it... Yeah. > Avoids cups, don't give me anything than making the actual

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-06 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 06/01/2016 17:13, Teodoro Santoni a écrit : PAM is a problem, the cups behaviour is another. My problem is to run things as, for example, my cheap hp printer without systemd. Next may come hplip through lprng or lpr. I talk about my printer but dunno, may run wayland someday, or have my

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-06 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 06/01/2016 17:13, Teodoro Santoni a écrit : >Avoids cups, don't give me anything than making the actual processing >hidden and obscure. Cups is a big black box for me, but this is not the only one (iceweasel, gcc, ssh...) . For sure it is not like an lpr client which you might craft

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-06 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 6 January 2016 at 20:29, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 06/01/2016 17:13, Teodoro Santoni a écrit : > >> PAM is a problem, the cups behaviour is another. >> My problem is to run things as, for example, my cheap >> hp printer without systemd. >> Next may come hplip through lprng or

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-05 Thread karl
Teodoro Santoni: > 2016-01-05 12:28 GMT+01:00, Karl Hammar : > > And what has "how to login" to do with "how to boot" ? > > It's easier to > * avoid hacks in the login process if your software controls > everything from the power button to the session; I don't

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-05 Thread Karl Hammar
Teodoro Santoni: > 2016-01-04 21:43 GMT+01:00, Rainer Weikusat : > > k...@aspodata.se writes: > >> chaosesquet...@cock.li: > >>> I don't understand the desire to change it at all. > >> And neither do I. > >> Except someone talked about ssl libs. > > Someone wrote

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-05 Thread Teodoro Santoni
2016-01-05 12:28 GMT+01:00, Karl Hammar : > And what has "how to login" to do with "how to boot" ? > > Regards, > /Karl Hammar It's easier to * avoid hacks in the login process if your software controls everything from the power button to the session; * get away with

[DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-04 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Good evening, 2016-01-04 21:43 GMT+01:00, Rainer Weikusat : > k...@aspodata.se writes: >> chaosesquet...@cock.li: >>> I don't understand the desire to change it at all. >> >> And neither do I. >> Except someone talked about ssl libs. > > Someone wrote about some

Re: [DNG] PAM usage (Was: Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities)

2016-01-04 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
> > But do any of you find useful to have PAM? Do any of you need > single-sign-on, > TPM, smart-cards that unlock ttys, integrate kerberos with linux, or the > like? > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org >