Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread golinux
On 2017-11-02 10:39, Narcis Garcia wrote: Because, any other jokes or ultra-developed threads are just off-topic and making subscribers to unsubscribe some day. ___ Yes, these long useless threads where everyone tries to have the last word push

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 02/11/17 a les 14:58, zap ha escrit: > >> Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion >> and the joke may be offensive to some. > > I don't see why, but if it will keep peace then I will do so. But I wish > to know what you mean by political jokes... free

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread m712
I propose ``alt.sysadmin.rehab''. On November 2, 2017 5:46:50 PM GMT+03:00, Jamey Fletcher wrote: >>> systemd is a reality, and making sad or smart jokes about it does >not >>> make it more palatable, or less of a threat. > >> yep, you are right systemd is a reality, I just

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread Jamey Fletcher
>> systemd is a reality, and making sad or smart jokes about it does not >> make it more palatable, or less of a threat. > yep, you are right systemd is a reality, I just needed to vent somehow. > and making my jokes is one way of doing so... Do we need to start alt.systemdadmin.recovery?

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread zap
> Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion and > the joke may be offensive to some. I don't see why, but if it will keep peace then I will do so. But I wish to know what you mean by political jokes... free software has a political agenda too after all. so I

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread m712
On November 1, 2017 5:12:53 PM GMT+03:00, zap wrote: >Also another slogan for systemd: "*The**Donald Trump**of **Init*!" Please no political jokes. Not everyone shares the same political opinion and the joke may be offensive to some. --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^) --- :^)

[DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
Although I am pro-choice regarding software, I am one who actually tried to use systemd on a few occasions. However, I was every time disappointed by its performance. After that, I had to revert back to another init completely removing it in the process. This machine has Devuan ASCII installed

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:27:37AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 08:57:30 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 08:24:34PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> There is always one reason or another for "a start job is running for

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread zap
>> Wow! Systemd even halts faster! > Only if you keep the power button pressed long enough. Yay, someone else is a joker. ;) > > Alessandro > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 08:57:30 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 08:24:34PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> There is always one reason or another for "a start job is running for - >> network interfaces/disks/etc)" which halts the entire boot process >>

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread zap
> Sorry for interrupting, but I was wondering whether this discussion is > useful at all to Devuan. Please don't get me wrong: you are free to > continue, but really, what's the point? Sorry, couldn't resist making some humor out of an annoying situation. > > systemd is a reality, and making sad

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread Juergen Moebius
Hi KatolaZ, On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 15:32:53AM GMT 15:32 KatolaZ wrote: > A modest proposal: if people have some time to spare for Devuan, it > would be useful at this point to start testing all the possible > upgrade paths to Devuan Ascii it is possible to install a fresh "full" copy of ascii,

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 10:12:53AM -0400, zap wrote: > I like to think of systemd as the lazy man's solution to init.  I am not > really a developer persay, but you guys seem to convey what I just said > and what I am about to say, > > systemd slogan, "*IF it isn't broken*... *Break IT!*" > >

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-11-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 08:24:34PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > There is always one reason or another for "a start job is running for - > network interfaces/disks/etc)" which halts the entire boot process > "faster", even without those it still is much slower than devuan. Wow! Systemd even

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-10-31 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 1 November 2017 at 03:24, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 10/31/2017 10:07 AM, dev wrote: > > > > > SystemD is a power play in the linux community, maybe even a super > backdoor - why else would every distro suddenly adopt it despite it not > being an improvement over SysVinit.

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-10-31 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 10/31/2017 10:07 AM, dev wrote: I have some systemd encumbered systems and Devuan boot times beat them hands down. The difference is so profound I can't believe anyone at Redhat would even use that as a justification any more but they do because nobody is going to argue with "we did it to

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-10-31 Thread dev
On 10/31/2017 08:43 AM, John Hughes wrote: > On 31/10/17 14:23, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: >> In case you guys have missed, Jim Whitehurst, redhat ceo, answered >> some questions on slashdot, and of course many people asked about >> systemd. You can find the question and his answer here: "...most

Re: [DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-10-31 Thread John Hughes
On 31/10/17 14:23, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: In case you guys have missed, Jim Whitehurst, redhat ceo, answered some questions on slashdot, and of course many people asked about systemd. You can find the question and his answer here:

[DNG] Redhat CEO answers questions

2017-10-31 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
In case you guys have missed, Jim Whitehurst, redhat ceo, answered some questions on slashdot, and of course many people asked about systemd. You can find the question and his answer here: