Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:31:56AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a file. > > Maybe because muscle memory know the editor commands for finding things in it. I'll give you that but when folks are using GUI text editors I'm afraid that muscle memory is a click on a menu ;-P -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 *Big Thanks* @all at first for help and clue Dear readers, Am 26.10.18 um 20:21 schrieb Michael K.: > Hey List readers, abstract: i can open my ".xsession-error" File whit: Emacs, NANO and also the MC or wxHex i make a "backup" of my ol' xsession-error file i make a log-of/on on my "Xsession" (to get a new xsession-error file) i can open my xsession-error file in my IDE ... (again) Hint: i don't edit my DOTxsession-erorr File, i only observe it by work. And for me the easy way to do this, is a new "Tab" in my default IDE. (Geany) > USER@deskt0p:~$ stat .xsession-errors Datei: .xsession-errors > Größe: 2508836Blöcke: 4912 EA Block: 4096 reguläre > Datei Gerät: fe01h/65025d Inode: 21233736Verknüpfungen: 1 > Zugriff: (0600/-rw---) Uid: ( 1000/ USER) Gid: ( 1000/ > USER) Zugriff: 2018-10-26 19:22:01.059698862 +0200 Modifiziert: > 2018-10-28 12:53:06.735892443 +0100 Geändert : 2018-10-28 > 12:53:06.735892443 +0100 Geburt: - USER@deskt0p:~$ hexdump -n 3 > -C .xsession-errors 58 73 65 > |Xse| 0003 USER@deskt0p:~$ i will observe, if thus happend again thanks for help michael - -- GnuPG Fingerprint: CF03 FC32 381F 7D6C 1734 8641 E4D8 5081 5E05 B5AE Zombie-News - cacn.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEzwP8MjgffWwXNIZB5NhQgV4Fta4FAlvVsY4ACgkQ5NhQgV4F ta4EkBAAj2tmotHO3faEmKQcZXxmE0E2uOEBzIdthCLiktGqsMEVxL0QuPB1zAsO NxBULsUzDKcTYJokYZZvel012W5C/wRaVUpMYBUx/IL0oKO21bppcs+600Y7Vvz/ jkx5Z8EFFjwy3rB9EqftC0Y6CmW3gvckg3uGi47d7YMFWgLlX6lXOUQqasDGhu2t 7UzpGMk3zKWgjeMUVBVbeSx8MiDcLmrrAuuaGYJeyX5OSBiCOsx8nS2fz6W93s41 6aPOd/IPmkJmSTF0w3xk7oOMEE+8rughZ6X6OPbniiSst4NNTMCRIJtDa1MbtDMX E0pvVADqQvP8yEoy9hmGrCgoyLVrLZq29UplMVFyid4KV67yMDPi7ibiZgr3tA+r HlNOzpubOxdPLHB9n0wREZ70wgz1H8ALWdcKw5wtghuYBt0zUQqaGils7mdGffqL xnWLYADjdxB74ICzzWL5torIPvtKmID5BOSSxxDCBRBKQ8ykkuRhha1L4LmX/aut 6lx5HlRfqlWbLIA3WdVZvlwLl0It+WKyN4syCaxLDc0MEzcx97yA9b7rOZFiiGrl WLqDOW5VLZPPPC+cwviuAS8zVR/palxPQ633bKudnxcuw0vUoPc9imAhMiUWuwSZ XJi5jZNo0IZRycUsBIgMqutr7Qcz5le2yGczPDEM73Ruy9fwfvA= =dtZ8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:31:56AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a file. Maybe because muscle memory know the editor commands for finding things in it. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
Hi Michael, Michael K. writes: > Hey List readers, > > i use, under Dev1, XFCE and "geany 1.29" as my default IDE / Text editor. > > I observe my xsession-errors on this way also, long time ago. But, i > can't open my ".xsession-errors" file whit any text editor? > > A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid UTF-8 > > what must i do to re-open my ".xsession-errors" in a text editor? Since I don't understand why you would want to *edit* that file, I suggest you use pager .xsession-errors to view it. # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a file. BTW, I use lv as my default pager. It does on-the-fly decompression, encoding detection (I get a lot of Shift_JIS files ...) and allows you to cycle through supported encodings (useful you have to deal with files that have content with multiple encodings). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:55:33PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Michael K. wrote: > > Hey List readers, > > > > i use, under Dev1, XFCE and "geany 1.29" as my default IDE / Text editor. > > > > I observe my xsession-errors on this way also, long time ago. But, i > > can't open my ".xsession-errors" file whit any text editor? > > > > A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid UTF-8 > > > > what must i do to re-open my ".xsession-errors" in a text editor? > > You could: > > * See if maybe joe or nano or vim or ??? editor will be more > accepting of the input. > > * Use a hex editor to look for a byte-order-mark (BOM) at > the beginning of the file, I think some programs choke on them. > At least I've observed myself "fixing" a file by editing out the BOM. > > The BOM indicates whether the text will representated with > the bits in little or big endian order. The byte-order mark is quite relevant in 16-bit unicode representations. but it gets in the way in UTF-8, even if correctly re-encoded as UTF-8. The convention of using the UTF-8 version of the BOM to identify a file as being UTF-8-encoded unicode has been used occasionally, but it's not official, and systems that adhere strictly to spec may well reject it. I know at one point the gnu C compiler correctly (but annoyingly) did. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
I would suggest trying Midnight Commander to view and alternately editing the file. Sometimes it must be configured to use its internal editor after installation or else it uses the system defined editor. Its internal editor can be switched to hex edit mode. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:21:11 +0200 "Michael K." wrote: > A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid > UTF-8 I also use Geany. I checked my own ".xsession-errors" and mine opens correctly. Since the contents of this file are individual, I wonder if you have something that is putting unusual characters into that file. I see some other good ideas in this thread; you can try another editor.. however, maybe someone can help with a good way to track down exactly what parts of a file would have those interesting characters. Consider copying the file into a backup, deleting it, and going about your day for a little while. Then check into that file to see if it's still invalid. - If it is, then you'll at least have a smaller file to examine. - If it isn't, then maybe there are things you only rarely do which is causing such a problem. Or maybe the problem will go away and never return? :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
On 2018-10-27 00:55, Joel Roth wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Michael K. wrote: Hey List readers, i use, under Dev1, XFCE and "geany 1.29" as my default IDE / Text editor. I observe my xsession-errors on this way also, long time ago. But, i can't open my ".xsession-errors" file whit any text editor? A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid UTF-8 what must i do to re-open my ".xsession-errors" in a text editor? You could: * See if maybe joe or nano or vim or ??? editor will be more accepting of the input. * Use a hex editor to look for a byte-order-mark (BOM) at the beginning of the file, I think some programs choke on them. At least I've observed myself "fixing" a file by editing out the BOM. The BOM indicates whether the text will representated with the bits in little or big endian order. Perhaps Dr. Duck will shine some light on the subject, or superuser stackoverflow communities or those among our unicode literati. I have Pluma installed on Xfce and also had this problem. But when I tried to open .xsession-errors, a big red warning box appeared that gave me the option to choose between UTF-8 or iso-8859-15. I ticked iso-8859-15 and the log displayed properly. Didn't that used to be the default before UTF-8?. My daily driver is still jessie if that makes any difference . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:21:11PM +0200, Michael K. wrote: > Hey List readers, > > i use, under Dev1, XFCE and "geany 1.29" as my default IDE / Text editor. > > I observe my xsession-errors on this way also, long time ago. But, i > can't open my ".xsession-errors" file whit any text editor? > > A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid UTF-8 > > what must i do to re-open my ".xsession-errors" in a text editor? You could: * See if maybe joe or nano or vim or ??? editor will be more accepting of the input. * Use a hex editor to look for a byte-order-mark (BOM) at the beginning of the file, I think some programs choke on them. At least I've observed myself "fixing" a file by editing out the BOM. The BOM indicates whether the text will representated with the bits in little or big endian order. Perhaps Dr. Duck will shine some light on the subject, or superuser stackoverflow communities or those among our unicode literati. > Thanks in advanced > Michael > > > -- > GnuPG Fingerprint: CF03 FC32 381F 7D6C 1734 8641 E4D8 5081 5E05 B5AE > Zombie-News - cacn.de > > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)
Hey List readers, i use, under Dev1, XFCE and "geany 1.29" as my default IDE / Text editor. I observe my xsession-errors on this way also, long time ago. But, i can't open my ".xsession-errors" file whit any text editor? A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid UTF-8 what must i do to re-open my ".xsession-errors" in a text editor? Thanks in advanced Michael -- GnuPG Fingerprint: CF03 FC32 381F 7D6C 1734 8641 E4D8 5081 5E05 B5AE Zombie-News - cacn.de signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
