Re: [DNG] net-install troubles [SOLVED]
wow. can't type. the installer ddn't work when the iso was loaded via grub and not the root filesystem on the device. July 1 2020 10:02 PM, "Curtis Maurand via Dng" wrote: Turns out tha the trouble was because i was trying to run the install from a muli-boot usb stick. found another smaller usb stick and dd’d the image to the stick. the install was then successfull. the installer didn’t work whe the is was loaded from grub on the stick. could be a feature or a bug. :-) it is amd64. the install is complete. thanks for your help. —Curtis mailto:cur...@maurand.com (mailto:mailto:cur...@maurand.com) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: The non-free firmware is here: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-linux-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb (http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-linux-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb) On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:31 AM Hendrik Boom wrote:On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:20:19PM +, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to the mailing list, but not new to devuan. I've been running devuan > ascii in production for a couple of years. I really like the product. My > system is so much more stable without systemd and all the bull associated > with Ubuntu. > > I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system that > does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure. > > Here are the troubles. If any of you have work arounds, I'd be grateful > > first it complains about needing a non-free firmware for the wifi device and > asks for a a non-existant CD. It keeps asking and I keep saying no. It look > for the ISO that is loaded from the USB stick or go out to the network for > the firmware since it asks again after the network loads and configures. > > It asks for a realtek driver for the realtek nic's but they seem to work OK. Sorry. I don't know where to get the nonfree firmware if it isn't on your installation media. Perhaps you are installing in a mode that refuses nonfree anything? I believe there's an option in the installer to allow nonfree firmware. That's an option the Free Software Foundation complains about and refuses to consider Debian and Devuan to be truly free. See if you can find that option. > > When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and > filesystems that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set > the mount point and whether to use the partition I get the choice of > "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the > two that i need. Maybe a workaround? Are you planning to install the new system on those Ext4, BTRFS partitions? Or are you going to install it on new partitions and have the eventual installed system use those partitions? If the latter, you could install a minimal system on the partitions it will let you use, and then afterward add the others to the /etc/fstab file. This whole situation puzzles me; I have never had to do this on a new install. I have done things like this on my server, which has had no new installation of Debian/Devuan for over a decade. Create new partitions for new file systems, copy the entire system over, adjust critical files (like /etc/fstab) in the copied system, boot into it and then upgrade. I go through this charade to make sure I have a fallback in case the upgrade fails (it has once -- ran out of disk space in /usr) but it also works when I want to change file systems. But I've never had it on a new install. -- hendrik > > At this point, I have to give up. I'm about to try the Desktop-Live. The > net-install should work and have drivers for Ext4 at least, right? > > Should I install ascii and then do a dist-upgrade? I've done that to a couple > of very lightweight systems (DNS servers) successfully. > > Thanks in advance > Curtis > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org (mailto:Dng@lists.dyne.org) > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > (https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org (mailto:Dng@lists.dyne.org) https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng (https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org (mailto:Dng@lists.dyne.org) https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng (https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] net-install troubles [SOLVED]
Turns out tha the trouble was because i was trying to run the install from a muli-boot usb stick. found another smaller usb stick and dd’d the image to the stick. the install was then successfull. the installer didn’t work whe the is was loaded from grub on the stick. could be a feature or a bug. :-) it is amd64. the install is complete. thanks for your help. —Curtis mailto:cur...@maurand.com Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: > > > The non-free firmware is here: > > http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-linux-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb > >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:31 AM Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:20:19PM +, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: >> > Hello, >> > I'm new to the mailing list, but not new to devuan. I've been running >> > devuan ascii in production for a couple of years. I really like the >> > product. My system is so much more stable without systemd and all the bull >> > associated with Ubuntu. >> > >> > I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system that >> > does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure. >> > >> > Here are the troubles. If any of you have work arounds, I'd be grateful >> > >> > first it complains about needing a non-free firmware for the wifi device >> > and asks for a a non-existant CD. It keeps asking and I keep saying no. It >> > look for the ISO that is loaded from the USB stick or go out to the >> > network for the firmware since it asks again after the network loads and >> > configures. >> > >> > It asks for a realtek driver for the realtek nic's but they seem to work >> > OK. >> >> Sorry. I don't know where to get the nonfree firmware if it isn't on >> your installation media. Perhaps you are installing in a mode that >> refuses nonfree anything? I believe there's an option in the installer >> to allow nonfree firmware. That's an option the Free Software >> Foundation complains about and refuses to consider Debian and Devuan to >> be truly free. >> >> See if you can find that option. >> >> > >> > When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and >> > filesystems that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set >> > the mount point and whether to use the partition I get the choice of >> > "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the >> > two that i need. >> >> Maybe a workaround? >> >> Are you planning to install the new system on those Ext4, BTRFS >> partitions? >> >> Or are you going to install it on new partitions and have the eventual >> installed system use those partitions? >> >> If the latter, you could install a minimal system on the partitions it >> will let you use, and then afterward add the others to the /etc/fstab >> file. >> >> This whole situation puzzles me; I have never had to do this on a new >> install. >> >> I have done things like this on my server, which has had no new >> installation of Debian/Devuan for over a decade. Create new partitions >> for new file systems, copy the entire system over, adjust critical files >> (like /etc/fstab) in the copied system, boot into it and then upgrade. >> I go through this charade to make sure I have a fallback in case the >> upgrade fails (it has once -- ran out of disk space in /usr) but it also >> works when I want to change file systems. >> >> But I've never had it on a new install. >> >> -- hendrik >> >> > >> > At this point, I have to give up. I'm about to try the Desktop-Live. The >> > net-install should work and have drivers for Ext4 at least, right? >> > >> > Should I install ascii and then do a dist-upgrade? I've done that to a >> > couple of very lightweight systems (DNS servers) successfully. >> > >> > Thanks in advance >> > Curtis >> >> > ___ >> > Dng mailing list >> > Dng@lists.dyne.org >> > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> >> ___ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] net-install troubles
The non-free firmware is here: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-linux-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:31 AM Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:20:19PM +, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm new to the mailing list, but not new to devuan. I've been running > devuan ascii in production for a couple of years. I really like the > product. My system is so much more stable without systemd and all the bull > associated with Ubuntu. > > > > I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system > that does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure. > > > > Here are the troubles. If any of you have work arounds, I'd be grateful > > > > first it complains about needing a non-free firmware for the wifi device > and asks for a a non-existant CD. It keeps asking and I keep saying no. It > look for the ISO that is loaded from the USB stick or go out to the network > for the firmware since it asks again after the network loads and configures. > > > > It asks for a realtek driver for the realtek nic's but they seem to work > OK. > > Sorry. I don't know where to get the nonfree firmware if it isn't on > your installation media. Perhaps you are installing in a mode that > refuses nonfree anything? I believe there's an option in the installer > to allow nonfree firmware. That's an option the Free Software > Foundation complains about and refuses to consider Debian and Devuan to > be truly free. > > See if you can find that option. > > > > > When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and > > filesystems that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set > > the mount point and whether to use the partition I get the choice of > > "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the > > two that i need. > > Maybe a workaround? > > Are you planning to install the new system on those Ext4, BTRFS > partitions? > > Or are you going to install it on new partitions and have the eventual > installed system use those partitions? > > If the latter, you could install a minimal system on the partitions it > will let you use, and then afterward add the others to the /etc/fstab > file. > > This whole situation puzzles me; I have never had to do this on a new > install. > > I have done things like this on my server, which has had no new > installation of Debian/Devuan for over a decade. Create new partitions > for new file systems, copy the entire system over, adjust critical files > (like /etc/fstab) in the copied system, boot into it and then upgrade. > I go through this charade to make sure I have a fallback in case the > upgrade fails (it has once -- ran out of disk space in /usr) but it also > works when I want to change file systems. > > But I've never had it on a new install. > > -- hendrik > > > > > At this point, I have to give up. I'm about to try the Desktop-Live. The > net-install should work and have drivers for Ext4 at least, right? > > > > Should I install ascii and then do a dist-upgrade? I've done that to a > couple of very lightweight systems (DNS servers) successfully. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Curtis > > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] net-install troubles
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:20:19PM +, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to the mailing list, but not new to devuan. I've been running devuan > ascii in production for a couple of years. I really like the product. My > system is so much more stable without systemd and all the bull associated > with Ubuntu. > > I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system that > does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure. > > Here are the troubles. If any of you have work arounds, I'd be grateful > > first it complains about needing a non-free firmware for the wifi device and > asks for a a non-existant CD. It keeps asking and I keep saying no. It look > for the ISO that is loaded from the USB stick or go out to the network for > the firmware since it asks again after the network loads and configures. > > It asks for a realtek driver for the realtek nic's but they seem to work OK. Sorry. I don't know where to get the nonfree firmware if it isn't on your installation media. Perhaps you are installing in a mode that refuses nonfree anything? I believe there's an option in the installer to allow nonfree firmware. That's an option the Free Software Foundation complains about and refuses to consider Debian and Devuan to be truly free. See if you can find that option. > > When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and > filesystems that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set > the mount point and whether to use the partition I get the choice of > "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the > two that i need. Maybe a workaround? Are you planning to install the new system on those Ext4, BTRFS partitions? Or are you going to install it on new partitions and have the eventual installed system use those partitions? If the latter, you could install a minimal system on the partitions it will let you use, and then afterward add the others to the /etc/fstab file. This whole situation puzzles me; I have never had to do this on a new install. I have done things like this on my server, which has had no new installation of Debian/Devuan for over a decade. Create new partitions for new file systems, copy the entire system over, adjust critical files (like /etc/fstab) in the copied system, boot into it and then upgrade. I go through this charade to make sure I have a fallback in case the upgrade fails (it has once -- ran out of disk space in /usr) but it also works when I want to change file systems. But I've never had it on a new install. -- hendrik > > At this point, I have to give up. I'm about to try the Desktop-Live. The > net-install should work and have drivers for Ext4 at least, right? > > Should I install ascii and then do a dist-upgrade? I've done that to a couple > of very lightweight systems (DNS servers) successfully. > > Thanks in advance > Curtis > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] net-install troubles
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:20:19PM +, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system that > does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure. I assume that by net-install, you mean an amd64 netinst of beowulf, right? If not, then please clarify which netinst. > When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and filesystems > that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set the mount point and > whether to use the partition I get the choice of "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, > and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the two that i need. The amd64 netinst of beowulf does indeed have ext4 support. As far as I know, before you can select how to use a partition, you need to select the mount point. Have you done that first? Did you verify the netinst image you downloaded isn't corrupted? Have you made sure the USB stick was written correctly? One of the options the installer has is to verify the checksums of the packages contained in the disk image. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] net-install troubles
Hello, I'm new to the mailing list, but not new to devuan. I've been running devuan ascii in production for a couple of years. I really like the product. My system is so much more stable without systemd and all the bull associated with Ubuntu. I've been trying to use the net-install from a USB stick on a system that does not have a CD-ROM attacted. It has been a failure. Here are the troubles. If any of you have work arounds, I'd be grateful first it complains about needing a non-free firmware for the wifi device and asks for a a non-existant CD. It keeps asking and I keep saying no. It look for the ISO that is loaded from the USB stick or go out to the network for the firmware since it asks again after the network loads and configures. It asks for a realtek driver for the realtek nic's but they seem to work OK. When partitioning the disk, It sees the exisiting partitions and filesystems that are there (Ext4, BTRFS and SWAP). When I go to set the mount point and whether to use the partition I get the choice of "Do not use," Ext2, Fat16, and Fat32. No Ext4 or BTRFS which are the two that i need. At this point, I have to give up. I'm about to try the Desktop-Live. The net-install should work and have drivers for Ext4 at least, right? Should I install ascii and then do a dist-upgrade? I've done that to a couple of very lightweight systems (DNS servers) successfully. Thanks in advance Curtis ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
