Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-25 Thread aitor_czr
Hi again, I recomend you to use pristine-tar in combination with git-buildpackage. *** EXAMPLE 1: HOW TO GET THE SOURCES USING PRISTINE-TAR 1) Download any git repository (for example, systemd): $ git clone https://gitlab.com/aitor_cz/bulmages.git 2) Enter into the project

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-25 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2015-08-24 at 17:09 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Svante, > > Pristine-tar branch guarantees a constant checksum in the sources > *.bz2. The packager should not make changes in the source (this is > only for the developer), all the changes must be done in the debian > branch using quilt. Sh

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Svante, Pristine-tar branch guarantees a constant checksum in the sources *.bz2. The packager should not make changes in the source (this is only for the developer), all the changes must be done in the debian branch using quilt. Shortly i will write a little guide explaining how to create t

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Simon Hobson
Svante Signell wrote: > See above, the DNG mailing list is mostly full of discussions and not > much actions, except for from a few people. That is the impression I'd got as well. Now I'll preface the next bit with ... this is not meant to be an insult or criticism, so please don't take it tha

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 23:06 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Today on #debconf: > > > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > > systemd by de

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > could thus considered to be a bait, what was the point, exactly? ehehehe, exactly BTW on the bright side, yesterday I did something quite daring went switching from Debian wheezy to Devuan jessie on a production machine which runs with an LVM raid se

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-24 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Adam Borowski writes: > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > systemd by default Technically, this is a threat: "Should Devuan ever release something, an event I don't really be

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:52:46 -0700 Go Linux wrote: > It's hard to read those quotes from #debconf properly without knowing > the previous context. I was wondering if any Devuaneers crashed > debconf. Was this a response to their presence? Or just to someone > trolling the irc? > > I agree t

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:17:05 +0200 Anto wrote: > Someone kept confirming that Devuan will not support systemd. But it > was confirmed as well that the option for Devuan to support systemd > is still quite wide open if someone (I believe more accurate will be > a company as big as RedHat) is will

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:34:19 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop > installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do > > Guys... _still_ inst

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Jaromil
On 23 August 2015 21:52:46 BST, Go Linux wrote: >I agree that the inclusion of ANY systemd files at this point is a BIG >target for comments like these. VUAs et al . . . time to clean house . its so easy to just remove systemd packages from amprolla... and so much more work has been put in a

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 24/08/15 06:34, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > systemd by default > 20:11 < paultag> which they still do > > Guys... _still_ ins

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 8/23/15, Adam Borowski wrote: Subject: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015, 1:34 PM > Today on #debconf: > > 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > 20:11 < paultag&g

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:17:05PM +0200, Anto wrote: > > On 23/08/15 20:34, Adam Borowski wrote: > >Today on #debconf: > > > >20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release > >20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing > >systemd by default > >20:11 < paul

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Anto
On 23/08/15 20:34, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is

[DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

2015-08-23 Thread Adam Borowski
Today on #debconf: 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 < paultag> which they still do Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is pathethic. I provided a set of desystemdi