Re: [DNG] Secure boot switch in EFI

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 05:33:18AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Struggling with vendors that cater mostly for MS Windows users who > don't really care about Secure Boot being disabled or not, is not the > way that leads to an available solution. Such vendors are far too > powerful to bow to the

[DNG] Secure boot switch in EFI

Struggling with vendors that cater mostly for MS Windows users who don't really care about Secure Boot being disabled or not, is not the way that leads to an available solution. Such vendors are far too powerful to bow to the pressures of insignificant pressure groups like 'old fashioned' Linux

[DNG] Secure boot switch in EFI

I'm unsure if this is the way for a lurker to reply to his list. If not, my apologies. Someone posted that it would be nice to get a list of PC vendors who don't allow disabling of secure boot. That would be a great boon if someone can actually post such a list. I'm currently posting from a Dell

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 05:49:11PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 12/06/2016 17:08, Simon Hobson a écrit : > >Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >>How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new > >>machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on

Re: [DNG] secure boot

Le 12/06/2016 21:56, Simon Hobson a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote: The dealer will just be instructed to not sell it to people who claim they will do anything else than using the pre-installed Windows. Eventually yes. But it will make their management aware of us for them to

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:21:14 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:35:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > There's a real question here for us, and for Linux in general. > > > > How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a

Re: [DNG] secure boot

Didier Kryn wrote: > The dealer will just be instructed to not sell it to people who claim they > will do anything else than using the pre-installed Windows. Eventually yes. But it will make their management aware of us for them to issue the instruction. But bear in mind that a

Re: [DNG] secure boot

Le 12/06/2016 17:08, Simon Hobson a écrit : Hendrik Boom wrote: How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on it wxcept for an OS from one of the big companies that have sweetheart

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:43:55 +, Stephanie wrote in message : > In most cases right now, we have either the option to disable secure > boot, or there is a version of GRUB that is signed, therefore > permitting booting into

Re: [DNG] secure boot

Hendrik Boom wrote: > How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new > machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on it > wxcept for an OS from one of the big companies that have > sweetheart deals with Microsoft. Well (under UK

Re: [DNG] secure boot

In most cases right now, we have either the option to disable secure boot, or there is a version of GRUB that is signed, therefore permitting booting into other operating systems. For right now, investigate before buying to make sure you have the option to boot your operating system of choice. At

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 12:21:14PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:35:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new > > machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on it > > wxcept for an OS from one of

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On 12/06/16 12:21, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:35:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] There's a real question here for us, and for Linux in general. How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything

Re: [DNG] secure boot

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:35:11AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > There's a real question here for us, and for Linux in general. > > How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new > machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on it > wxcept for an OS

[DNG] secure boot

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:54:20AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Hi, > > > ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: > linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys... : > https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-4.6.0-1-rt-amd64-signed > https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot >

Re: [Dng] Secure boot?

Nobody yet knows how many Windows 10 compliant manufacturers will eliminate the off-switch for Secure Boot. Could be 90%, for all we know. If we don't support secure boot hardware, we're telling people not to use Linux on commodity off the shelf hardware. Pay double for System76. Won't be

Re: [Dng] Secure boot?

On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:58:15 -0400 Gregory Boyce gregory.bo...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Don't support booting on secure boot systems. This means users are out of luck if they have secure boot hardware unless they're able to disable that feature. Nobody yet knows how many Windows 10 compliant

[Dng] Secure boot?

On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 08:37:22PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote: Hi, I'd like a straw poll on whether we should include non-free firmware in our installers by default. While we're at it, what do we do about the so-called secure boot, which seems like a threat on most of the modern machines

Re: [Dng] Secure boot?

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 08:37:22PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote: Hi, I'd like a straw poll on whether we should include non-free firmware in our installers by default. While we're at it, what do we do about the